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BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED said:
They can be used in large drones powered by gas engines that can carry 100 KG warhead! They are not hard to make and they got RC plane people who know how. No need though, they will be flying NATO supplied drones. But this is what is possible these days for cheap.
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nice, i was thinking of something more silent type drone.....fly it up at a good distance with a small mortar attached.....and boom, silent but deadly......and i'm talking the gas stuff...
 
zeddd

zeddd

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So some predictions for Kyiv.
Nuke, thermobaric, chemical or hand to hand combat? How will Putin kill one million, how would you do it.
or maybe it won’t happen.

id go thermobaric so you can move in quicker, they don’t need to be dropped from planes and they are already in theatre. However Putin is absent of empathy so it could be worse.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'm wondering exactly how many OPERATIONAL nuclear weapons putin has? how many can be put on launch alert at one time? in short, how many would we have to knock down to keep from being struck?
would he even attack the U.S. without direct provocation? he has a lot of shit to worry about right across his own borders.
is there no way to knock out his ability to launch missiles at the EU and other targets? are these zircon missiles i'm hearing about intercontinental? are they even real? did they actually develop the missiles like they told putin they would, or did they steal 90% of the funding to buy a new yacht? this is why i don't go to the casino, i hate gambling...
and just exactly how much of a bulwark against nuclear exchange is NATO? putin is either unhinged, or keeping a huge secret...or perhaps both. why does he care about NATO outside of a conventional war? if he feels pressured he will push that button, count on it, and won't give a fuck what NATO has to say about that, or anything else
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I think Vlad isolated himself for a few years and is surrounded by sycophants who didn't tell him bad news. I think he's dazed and confused but will come around and adapt. We will see, mental flexibility is a sign of good mental health, so we will see what Vlad is going to do to get his ass out of a major jam. If he is rational, he will go for eastern Ukraine or if he is smart, seek a diplomatic solution that saves face. He has been humiliated, being humbled might take awhile, slow and steady, we have the advantage, let Vlad twist in the wind and deal with his domestic issues. It will be weeks before serous combat begins, as the soil dries out after spring rains and frost melt.
 
injinji

injinji

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'm wondering exactly how many OPERATIONAL nuclear weapons putin has? how many can be put on launch alert at one time? in short, how many would we have to knock down to keep from being struck?
would he even attack the U.S. without direct provocation? he has a lot of shit to worry about right across his own borders.
is there no way to knock out his ability to launch missiles at the EU and other targets? are these zircon missiles i'm hearing about intercontinental? are they even real? did they actually develop the missiles like they told putin they would, or did they steal 90% of the funding to buy a new yacht? this is why i don't go to the casino, i hate gambling...
and just exactly how much of a bulwark against nuclear exchange is NATO? putin is either unhinged, or keeping a huge secret...or perhaps both. why does he care about NATO outside of a conventional war? if he feels pressured he will push that button, count on it, and won't give a fuck what NATO has to say about that, or anything else
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He would most likely use a tactical nuke in Ukraine if he is losing badly.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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injinji said:
He would most likely use a tactical nuke in Ukraine if he is losing badly.
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Not that it matters to Putin but it would to US and UK

The 1994 denuclearization treaty with Ukraine has US and UK assurances to protect Ukraine should they be attacked by a nuclear weapon.

The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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Fogdog said:
Not that it matters to Putin but it would to US and UK

The 1994 denuclearization treaty with Ukraine has US and UK assurances to protect Ukraine should they be attacked by a nuclear weapon.

The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.

Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.
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Russia has blurred the lines re nuclear option stating that it will use them if the sovereignty of Russia is threatened. That could mean a shooting down of a Russian plane or finding special forces on the ground.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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I think people worrying about nuclear should calm their horses for a bit, we are only a few weeks into this war with possibly 10 years to come. Its a decent sized country to invade and take over. Even if its invade, remove govt, set up new gov and go home its still going to be a few years IMHO
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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injinji said:
He would most likely use a tactical nuke in Ukraine if he is losing badly.
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He is going to lose very badly, I don't even think he will be able too take much less secure east of the Dnieper. He will have captured generals sent to The Hague as war criminals soon, very bad PR in Russia and hard to spin without folks wondering. They are used to being lied to by the government and most Russians are deeply cynical, their low vaxx rate reflects this mistrust.
 
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Sativied

Sativied

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Unclebaldrick said:
Tell me about the hashish. Sigh.

We can't get really hashish.
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Not much to tell unfortunately. Haven’t visited many shops over the past 2 years. Had some King Hassan a few days ago though, good stuff, one whiff of the smoke takes me back decades. Moroccon hash still widely available but the hash menu nowadays is often largely hash made of trim of locally grown fancy named bud, like girl scout cookies hash :-|. Effective, but nothing like good import.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Lucky Luke said:
I think people worrying about nuclear should calm their horses for a bit, we are only a few weeks into this war with possibly 10 years to come. Its a decent sized country to invade and take over. Even if its invade, remove govt, set up new gov and go home its still going to be a few years IMHO
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Vlad can't even afford a 50 day war, much less a 100 day war with heavy battle and wastage.
 
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