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mooray

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Russia is over 50 times the size of Italy, with over twice the population, but only 10% of the debt compared to Italy.
That debt/currency ratio has sure changed though. At least Italy is using their Euro, worth more than 100x the Ruble. Imagine having to pay debt when your currency has been on a downward trend for decades in addition to being cut in half overnight. Italy is not in great shape, but a quick google search shows similar debt as a percentage of GDP to the US.
 

schuylaar

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I am sure they decided on not supplying the planes for good reason. Poland didn't say they were going to pay for the new aircraft, did they? And if the US is giving away brand new fighter aircraft then we want to get in line for them also. As well as the rest of Europe (well maybe not France, mind you Germany ordering new aircraft which puts the program of developing their own with France seems now in doubt. France is not pleased about it.)
It was my understanding through reporting that they would be replaced. Poland is NATO and Putin is on their doorstep seems rather silly to NOT FROM POLAND all of a sudden.
 

printer

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It was my understanding through reporting that they would be replaced. Poland is NATO and Putin is on their doorstep seems rather silly to NOT FROM POLAND all of a sudden.
The manufacturer does not have planes ready to replace the Polish planes. Also other countries are waiting for their planes and are paying for them.
 

schuylaar

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The manufacturer does not have planes ready to replace the Polish planes. Also other countries are waiting for their planes and are paying for them.
Thank you. I knew it had to be some logical reason. We no longer tell the world our every move like the last guy.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I was just thinking that the other day- the UK et al not being considered part of Europe..why do people think that?
As one of immediate continental European extraction, I would have to say an ingrained sense of superiority based on an ingrained … yeah … I certainly picked that up in my school days. The school was in the USA but part of the Federal German system. I would describe the connotation as being “the grown-up table” vs “the lessers”. My parents’ generation saw Britain reduced from an empire greater than Rome to a sleepy annex of “real (continental) Europe”. Of course the German axis knows a thing or two about that, a lesson that might be getting dusted off a ways East soon. I imagine one outcome of Vladolf’s Big Adventure could be a fragmentation of all the Russias
… into all the disparate Russias. Balkanization on a Costco scale.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Zelensky concedes Ukraine unlikely to join NATO, seeks security guarantees
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday admitted that Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO, the western security alliance that Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine never join, as he made a call for increased security commitments from the West.
In an address before the U.K.'s Joint Expeditionary Force, Zelensky said Ukraine was still seeking security guarantees short of joining NATO, Reuters reported.
The Ukrainian president said it was "clear" that Ukraine was not a member of NATO, The Washington Post reported.

"For years we heard about the apparently open door, but have already also heard that we will not enter there, and these are truths and must be acknowledged," he said.

Ukraine has strived to join NATO since the annexation of the Crimean Peninsula in 2014, but Moscow has fiercely fought against it. Russia's demand that Ukraine never join the alliance is among the lofty demands it has made in talks to halt its attack.
Ukrainian and Russian negotiators are still discussing terms this week to potentially enact a ceasefire in Ukraine as the Russian onslaught continues, taking a growing civilian toll.
No need after this and we can use them any time we want Vlad to feel pain, it is a perfect staging ground for the CIA and Belarus is the next domino to fall.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What I want to know is how long all these sanctions will last? Is Russia the new Cuba, or will everyone conveniently forget 6-months after Ukraine surrenders?
For as long as Putin or one of his lackey's is running the place, when the war ends the sanctions won't, some counties might drop them, but things have changed. It's not sanctions, it's cold war 2
 

injinji

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If China does help poot-poot, it will be for their own reasons. Mainly they are as eager as the rest of the world to see a weaker russia. Keeping them in the fight is the quickest way to ensure that.

 

Sativied

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I was just thinking that the other day- the UK et al not being considered part of Europe..why do people think that?
Depending on which people you’d ask and when and what part of UK, it’s cause they’re protestant, or descendants of uber-Norman. Lately, it’s because UK left EU, and Europe is used a lot as a synonym for EU. While EU is smaller than half of Europe, which is just a geographical area, a continent. There‘s no such thing as a European in another context than someone from that geographical area. It’s like saying “the North Americans“, which I can’t remember hearing ever. Anyway, unfortunately some, like the EU itself and international media, insist on using Europe and EU interchangeably. EU citizens are called Europeans, not ee-you-ers. Like USA citizens are called Americans, while for example Cubans are from the Americas too. So basically, UK is like Cuba :) Actually, just England is like Cuba because the Scots, North-Irish and actual Welsh in Wales wanted to remain in EU.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I wonder what Tucker will say about his buddy Putin killing Foxnews reporters. The news department there must hate his guts and I wouldn't be surprised if he was spit on or sucker punched at work. War can be personal sometimes.
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