Just a struggling newbie...unsure of problem.

MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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PadawanWarrior said:
Have you been drinking lately? Just wondering where this tough guy attitude came from.
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Tough guy. A broken old dying man. Man I need a drink. Internet learned idiots. And you all would curl up and cry if me. So I hope you have the character when your time comes. Poor poor entitled pay to win generation.

Glad to help people trying to grow as people like you side track them. Nematodes indoors?? You must have a sanitary grow for that. And hell. I have access to white cyanide powder if you truly want to nuke your shitty grows.
 
Nugnewbie

Nugnewbie

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myke said:
The slurry test is just mix a tea/tbl spoon worth of soil with distilled water,mix let sit.You want it runny enough so you have liquid to test ph.I just use the drops and go by colour.
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Couldn't get a new meter but got some drops. Almost unmotivated to take a slurry because my plants look like lockout, and I'm in SIPS, so how would I fix it if I have given too much fertilizer?
 
Soul Dwella

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soaked roots, not enough oxygen....home made sip? too heavy and base sagging into reservoir? Not enough air gap? Just some things to consider.
 
Nugnewbie

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Soul Dwella said:
soaked roots, not enough oxygen....home made sip? too heavy and base sagging into reservoir? Not enough air gap? Just some things to consider.
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That shouldn't be the case. They are City Picker SIPs and not homemade. I did use pandafilm to cover them, but it's not like the roots can't get oxygen as there is an air gap.

I think maybe the bug infestation is having an increasing effect. Not doing anything about the lockout isn't good. Assuming that is the issue, which seems reasonable to me.
 
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Rookieoftheyr

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PadawanWarrior said:
You don't have to use spinosad, but it's known to work well against thrips. You could use neem oil, citric acid, sulfur, and other stuff too that's organic as a knockdown spray.
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PadawanWarrior said:
You don't have to use spinosad, but it's known to work well against thrips. You could use neem oil, citric acid, sulfur, and other stuff too that's organic as a knockdown spray.
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I vote for citric acid. Never used it for thrips but I know it’s killer for pm and didn’t mess my plants up. A good plan for IPM you will learn quick.
 
PadawanWarrior

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Rookieoftheyr said:
This brought back my childhood. I was instantly a dirty ass little kid running amuck in my neighborhood laying about four inches from the tv every Saturday morning. No cares in the world other than cartoons and mischief.
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That was back when cartoons were good, :bigjoint:

Elmer can't even own a gun in the new Looney Tunes, lol.
 
Nugnewbie

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So, just an update. Had to work last couple days, and didn't get around to my infestation and nutrient issues. I ended up spraying Doktor Doom, and then using a fogger today. I received my beneficial nematodes and cucumeris mites are on the way. So.., just wondering. Someone told me not to introduce the the beneficial nematodes or mites for about 5 to 6 days after spraying the pyrethrin. They said the spray will negatively affect the beneficial insects if they are introduced too soon. Anyone have knowledge of this? Of course i know, its not organic, but had some advice to use it so i have. In the future, I will absolutely take IPM more seriously and take more steps to curb pests. Being I had left this problem for so long due to being inexperienced and stoned half the time, I'm sure i'll do better in my next grows. I hope there is no recurrance but realize i may have to do more in the near future.

I ph'd my water and comes in about 7.0 using drops which is all i have now, my ph pen is fubarred. I am in a SIP, so I am using activated EM diluted with my de-chlorinated tap water. I mix the activated em into a 2 cup measuring cup, add that into the reservoir. Then I just add enough to fill the rest of the reservoir. I have no site glass or anything, so basically just use a dipstick down the fill tube to know when i am out of water again in the reservoir. The ph of the activated em is near 4.0, fairly acidic.

I ph'd my soil, and it seems to come out about 6.0, also acidic. So..., being in a SIP, what should I do? I can lower the amount of EM i mix into the reservoir, which will probably help. I've heard people using dolomite lime to bring their ph up. Is that a good idea in a SIP? I have oyster shell flour I could add. What should I do? I assume I need to bring my ph up a bit to help facilitate nutrient uptake. Right? Or am I still within the proper ph range?
 
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Nugnewbie

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PadawanWarrior said:
Looks like thrip damage. And possible lockout. Do you know the pH of your soil? I'd want to check close to the stalk that probably has remaining coco and stuff, and the new soil on the outside. You need a decent pH pen or probe to do that though.
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I ph'd the soil. 6.0 ph Is that too low? If so, how should I try to amend it? If my ph is a bit out of range, and I bring it back with some sort of amendment, won't my possible over feeding just be made worse because nutrients will become more available?
 
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myke

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Why the EM in the res? My tap is about 7.2 I dont adjust it.My soil is around 6.5.

What do you get when you do the slurry test?
 
Nugnewbie

Nugnewbie

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myke said:
Why the EM in the res? My tap is about 7.2 I dont adjust it.My soil is around 6.5.

What do you get when you do the slurry test?
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Before I started growing I lurked on these forums for a while, reading and trying to learn different methods and practices. I wanted my grows to be organic, and healthy. Obviously I've faltered from my ideal, but my method was based mostly on what one SIP related grower was doing. The member doesn't seem to post anymore, but basically his practice was to use a modified coots mix for soil, create a fungal layer up top (mycelium), and have an anaerobic bacteria in the reservoir (EM) ( he used em-1 from Teraganix. His handle on here was Greenthumbs256.

As for the slurry test, I got 6.0 ph for both SIPs. I used a soil ph test kit, but since have bought another ph pen. I read to put twice as much water to soil, and I can do a slurry test with my meter. Sound about right myke?

Sorry, you told me in a previous post about the slurry test.
 
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myke

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Nugnewbie said:
Before I started growing I lurked on these forums for a while, reading and trying to learn different methods and practices. I wanted my grows to be organic, and healthy. Obviously I've faltered from my ideal, but my method was based mostly on what one SIP related grower was doing. The member doesn't seem to post anymore, but basically his practice was to use a modified coots mix for soil, create a fungal layer up top (mycelium), and have an anaerobic bacteria in the reservoir (EM) ( he used em-1 from Teraganix. His handle on here was Greenthumbs256.

As for the slurry test, I got 6.0 ph for both SIPs. I used a soil ph test kit, but since have bought another ph pen. I read to put twice as much water to soil, and I can do a slurry test with my meter. Sound about right myke?

Sorry, you told me in a previous post about the slurry test.
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I wish I could help ya,I remember his thread but Im more for simple so that's where I started.

So far simple has worked so I haven't changed much.

If anything you could try top feeding and flush out your res,maybe the EM has messed things up I dont know. If plants keep getting worse you'll have to try something.
 
Nugnewbie

Nugnewbie

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myke said:
I wish I could help ya,I remember his thread but Im more for simple so that's where I started.

So far simple has worked so I haven't changed much.

If anything you could try top feeding and flush out your res,maybe the EM has messed things up I dont know. If plants keep getting worse you'll have to try something.
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Yes, top feeding...., so, like top-feeding oyster shell flour, but not nutrients assuming I've overfed but my ph a tad low??. Maybe add RO water from top to flush? But, if I top water it just ends up in the reservoir, not really getting rid of excess nutrients. No idea how I could siphon out the reservoir. They are City Picker SIPs, just a wee overflow hole on each end. Maybe I could rig something to draw out of the reservoir through the fill tube hmmm.
 
myke

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Nugnewbie said:
Yes, top feeding...., so, like top-feeding oyster shell flour, but not nutrients assuming I've overfed but my ph a tad low??. Maybe add RO water from top to flush? But, if I top water it just ends up in the reservoir, not really getting rid of excess nutrients. No idea how I could siphon out the reservoir. They are City Picker SIPs, just a wee overflow hole on each end. Maybe I could rig something to draw out of the reservoir through the fill tube hmmm.
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I would feed something water soluble like a fish veg 3 2 1 etc. To flush the res just keep filling from fill tube and let it overflow into a bucket?
 
Nugnewbie

Nugnewbie

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myke said:
I would feed something water soluble like a fish veg 3 2 1 etc. To flush the res just keep filling from fill tube and let it overflow into a bucket?
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So you feel my plants are underfed and not overfed?

There is a small hole on each end of the planters for overflow. Overflow tends to drip down the side, then drip off the bottom. Poor design but very simple. I can deal with that by catching most of it, and wiping up any up that doesn't go into small containers set directly under the holes.
 
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