War

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Ukraine needs 1,000 howitzers, 500 tanks and more to end the war – Podolyak
Ukraine needs 1,000 howitzers, 500 tanks, 300 multiple launch rocket systems and 2,000 armored vehicles to achieve heavy weapons parity with the Russian Federation and liberate Ukrainian territories from Russian invaders.

The relevant statement was made by Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Mykhailo Podolyak on Twitter, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

“Being straightforward – to end the war we need heavy weapons parity: 1,000 howitzers caliber 155 mm; 300 MLRS; 500 tanks; 2,000 armored vehicles; 1,000 drones. Contact Group of Defense Ministers meeting is held in Brussels on June 15. We are waiting for a decision,” Podolyak wrote.

A reminder that a third meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group headed by U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin will take place on June 15, 2022.

Ukraine needs 1,000 howitzers, 500 tanks and more to end the war – Podolyak

Ukraine needs 1,000 howitzers, 500 tanks, 300 multiple launch rocket systems and 2,000 armored vehicles to achieve heavy weapons parity with the Russian Federation and liberate Ukrainian territories from Russian invaders. — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

So the big hurrah about what limited supply of heavy weapons they may have received is just a drop as compared to what is needed.

It is a wish list and they are using the intense fighting to put heat on the west to come through with more weapons. They are being pushed hard by the Russian surge and need more artillery, especially if they want to regain lost ground in the future. I don't think the major powers want Ukraine to lose this war and if Putin keeps what he gained they will and the only way he can keep it, is if we throttle Ukraine. If Putin just goes back to the start line he still wins and would not pay a sufficient price for his imperial aggression and would keep territory gained through aggression.

So if the American plan is to destroy the Russian army, this might be part of it, but not exactly what Ukraine wants. The faster they get the weapons the fewer Ukrainians will die. Right now there is a contest in the east for the last city in the Donbass region, the Russians are gaining ground, but being chewed up at a fearsome rate. Interesting the chemical plant in the city is holding out and might be surrounded now. It was being held by the Ukrainian foreign legion, with many Americans, Brits and other westerners among them. If they are there and surrounded by Russians, did the Ukrainians do it deliberately? Another Mariupol, only with Americans and Brits in the mix?

 

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If Uncle Sam sends Poland those 500 MLRS it requested, I have a feeling some of them will end up in Ukraine.
Poland is going to the wall for Ukraine and will be keenly interested in regime change in Belarus one day.

 

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Ukraine says civilians under fire in Sievierodonetsk chemical plant | DW News
64,376 views Jun 13, 2022 The Azot chemical plant, where hundreds of civilians from the embattled town of Sievierodonetsk have sought refuge, has come under fire from Russian artillery, regional governor Serhiy Haidai said on Monday.

Russian forces have also made advances in the city, now controlling about 70% according to Haidai.

"Russians continue to storm the city, having a significant advantage in artillery they have somewhat pushed back the Ukrainian soldiers," he said on social media.

"About 500 civilians remain on the grounds of the Azot plant in Sievierodonetsk, 40 of them are children. Sometimes the military manages to evacuate someone," the regional governor added.

The capture of Sievierodonetsk would open up the way for Russian troops to advance on other key towns in the region.

 

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It is a wish list and they are using the intense fighting to put heat on the west to come through with more weapons. They are being pushed hard by the Russian surge and need more artillery, especially if they want to regain lost ground in the future. I don't think the major powers want Ukraine to lose this war and if Putin keeps what he gained they will and the only way he can keep it, is if we throttle Ukraine. If Putin just goes back to the start line he still wins and would not pay a sufficient price for his imperial aggression and would keep territory gained through aggression.

So if the American plan is to destroy the Russian army, this might be part of it, but not exactly what Ukraine wants. The faster they get the weapons the fewer Ukrainians will die. Right now there is a contest in the east for the last city in the Donbass region, the Russians are gaining ground, but being chewed up at a fearsome rate. Interesting the chemical plant in the city is holding out and might be surrounded now. It was being held by the Ukrainian foreign legion, with many Americans, Brits and other westerners among them. If they are there and surrounded by Russians, did the Ukrainians do it deliberately? Another Mariupol, only with Americans and Brits in the mix?

A wish list? The Ukrainians don't even have enough shells for the Russian tanks they have. I have been saying for weeks that the switchblades will not win the war and in an artillery battle overwhelming might wins. But no, the Russians are defeated, see, they are pulling up old T-62 tanks. But as out of date the tanks are, the Ukrainians are using the same tanks. The Ukrainians can call up one million men. So what are they going to do, take selfies with each other as they have no weapons to fight with. The Russians are not going to put up a fight as they would rather be at home. Guess what? When the shooting starts they are going to do their best to make it home.

The Russians are not going to run out of firepower before the Ukrainians will. They may be littering the countryside with spent husks but it is not like their fearless leader cares. He had been comparing himself with Peter the Great, saying that Peter fought for 12 years and took the area from Sweden where Moscow is. So buckle up citizens, it is going to be a bumpy ride for the next few years but you can not build an empire sitting on your hands.

Have you been to a heavy industrial complex? Harder to destroy than houses built with sticks of wood. Also what is the value of the industry that resides there? Do the Russians want industry to build the things they need to do their next push in ten years? How are they going to do that if they destroy industry that they can not rebuild easy?

I think Nato wants Ukraine to concede Donbas to the Russians as they do not want this war to go on forever and the world in turmoil until it is over. They are probably willing to wait out Putin's health.

 

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A wish list? The Ukrainians don't even have enough shells for the Russian tanks they have. I have been saying for weeks that the switchblades will not win the war and in an artillery battle overwhelming might wins. But no, the Russians are defeated, see, they are pulling up old T-62 tanks. But as out of date the tanks are, the Ukrainians are using the same tanks. The Ukrainians can call up one million men. So what are they going to do, take selfies with each other as they have no weapons to fight with. The Russians are not going to put up a fight as they would rather be at home. Guess what? When the shooting starts they are going to do their best to make it home.

The Russians are not going to run out of firepower before the Ukrainians will. They may be littering the countryside with spent husks but it is not like their fearless leader cares. He had been comparing himself with Peter the Great, saying that Peter fought for 12 years and took the area from Sweden where Moscow is. So buckle up citizens, it is going to be a bumpy ride for the next few years but you can not build an empire sitting on your hands.

Have you been to a heavy industrial complex? Harder to destroy than houses built with sticks of wood. Also what is the value of the industry that resides there? Do the Russians want industry to build the things they need to do their next push in ten years? How are they going to do that if they destroy industry that they can not rebuild easy?

I think Nato wants Ukraine to concede Donbas to the Russians as they do not want this war to go on forever and the world in turmoil until it is over. They are probably willing to wait out Putin's health.

Soviet munitions are an issue and they should be able to produce them in eastern Europe shells are not that difficult to manufacture, but volume could be an issue. I've worked in heavy industry, most of the equipment survives just fine, though the building and a lot of support infrastructure is destroyed. However they will need to replace the soviet armor with western stuff along with more artillery to make up for what they are losing with the soviet stuff. Guns only have a limited lifetime and they become burned out after so many rounds and most likely the soviet guns were near the end of their barrel lives any way

The choices come down to, a miscalculation by the west, deliberate throttling of the Ukrainians, or a plan to suck in, fix in place and destroy the bulk of the Russian army. Such a deception plan would involve deceiving us too. Losing the war, or letting Vlad get away with his ill gotten gains will not be politically popular in the west, or among national security circles. Hanging Ukraine out to dry would sow serious division in NATO, a Helluva a lot more so than defeating Vlad's army in the field.

You can look at this war as a problem or as an opportunity, the reality is it's a lot of both, it will shake up the geopolitical situation a lot whatever happens. The Russian army will need to be worn down and depleted before offensive operations begin, but that could be done a lot faster and easier with more drones, guns and rockets.

 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/13/we-cant-let-ukraine-lose-it-needs-military-aid-artillery-russia-war-donbas/

Opinion

We can’t let Ukraine lose. It needs a lot more aid, starting with artillery.

The battle of Donbas — with momentous implications for the future of Ukraine and the entire postwar world — is poised on a knife edge.

The Ukrainians are resisting bravely, but they are suffering terrible casualties and slowly losing ground. They are able to fire only 5,000 to 6,000 artillery rounds a day, compared with 50,000 rounds a day from the Russians. The Ukrainians are running out of ammunition for their old Soviet artillery, and they don’t have enough Western artillery tubes to make up for the shortfall.

I am reminded of the old poem about how “for want of a nail a shoe was lost,” then a horse, then a rider, then a battle, then a kingdom. We cannot afford to see Donbas lost for want of artillery shells.

 

[MisterKister]

It's too bad the USA has never released the A-10 to any other country ever. So no its not a Nato asset never has been never will be...

 

[Lucky Luke]

War, Its big business.

"After the Russia-Ukraine conflict broke out, the U.S. has constantly poured fuel on the fire in Ukraine and has continuously provided weapons to the country. With the Ukraine crisis, the U.S. and the U.S. military-industrial complex have raked in enormous profits, being among the biggest winners.

According to a report recently released by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), as the largest arms exporter globally, the U.S. and its military-industrial complex, are in a position to reap more profits from the Russia-Ukraine conflict. The stock prices of major American arms manufacturers also attests to this report.

Between Feb. 24 and March 28, Lockheed Martin, the world’s top weapons manufacturer, saw its stock price surge over 13 percent, while the stock price of Northrop Grumman, an American multinational aerospace and defense technology company, increased by more than 13.4 percent. Moreover, the stock price of General Dynamics rose by more than 10 percent during the same period."

 

[Bagginski]

The mans a living legend. He does talk about how the media makes people like yourself believe the propaganda. Perhaps you should watch the video.

I’m sure he appreciates you spreading his CV around, but so what? None of that makes his point of view exceptionally noteworthy - I mean, unless he’s a living legend, I guess? The CV you provided didn’t mention any legendary accomplishments.

I *did* watch the video, thanks. I consider it propaganda - very stuffy, ruling-class POV shit, but then I’ve only been aware of it since the 60s: Ex-Marine LIVING LEGEND sez US is leading the world to Nuclear Armageddon, ‘cause Russia did nothing at all…it’s just one door down from the “American imperialist” howlers…but cast in oh, such somber tones and clucking.

Nice dig by the way - ‘the media making people like me believe the propaganda’…apparently you’ve still got a few decades of critical thinking ahead of you…and maybe learn what research means?

at least, learn to recognize a sales pitch when you hear it

 

[Lucky Luke]

I’m sure he appreciates you spreading his CV around, but so what? None of that makes his point of view exceptionally noteworthy - I mean, unless he’s a living legend, I guess? The CV you provided didn’t mention any legendary accomplishments.

I *did* watch the video, thanks. I consider it propaganda - very stuffy, ruling-class POV shit, but then I’ve only been aware of it since the 60s: Ex-Marine LIVING LEGEND sez US is leading the world to Nuclear Armageddon, ‘cause Russia did nothing at all…it’s just one door down from the “American imperialist” howlers…but cast in oh, such somber tones and clucking.

Nice dig by the way - ‘the media making people like me believe the propaganda’…apparently you’ve still got a few decades of critical thinking ahead of you…and maybe learn what research means?

at least, learn to recognize a sales pitch when you hear it

Yep. Legend. War hero.
Navy Commendation Medal with "V" for valor, "the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal has historically considered its commendation medal to be a higher level and less frequently awarded decoration."

"A "V" device is a metal 1⁄4-inch (6.4 mm) capital letter "V" with serifs which, when worn on certain decorations awarded by the United States Armed Forces, distinguishes an award for heroism or valor in combat instead of for meritorious service or achievement.[4]"

You may want to read his "CV" a little closer...

Marine, War hero, Senator, JAG officer, Head of the Army criminal investigations division at the Pentagon...What would he know? Truth? Better not listen as it goes against the propaganda that you have been conditioned to believe in.



As for the sales pitch recognition. I've sold door to door, bikes, cars, houses. Im a salesman by trade.

 

[Budley Doright]

The mans a living legend. He does talk about how the media makes people like yourself believe the propaganda. Perhaps you should watch the video.


Early life[edit]
Black was born in northern Virginia in 1944 and grew up in Miami as the middle of three children.[2] His father was an IRS agent who helped investigate organized crime.[3] Black's first job was working at the Miami Serpentarium, importing cobras, vipers and other venomous snakes, and preparing them for transport to zoos throughout the world.[3] He graduated from high school in 1962 and studied at the University of Miami for a year before enlisting in the Marine Corps.[2] After completing his service in the Vietnam War, Black returned to school, earning a BSBA in Accounting in 1973 and a JD in 1976, both from the University of Florida.

Military career[edit]
Black was a career military officer. He served in both the U.S. Marines and in the U.S. Army JAG Corps. He served a total of 31 years active and reserve, rising from the rank of private to full colonel.[3] He is a graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Command and General Staff College, and Naval Aviator's Flight School.[4]

Black enlisted in the Marines in 1963 at the age of 19.[3] He graduated from Parris Island as a PFC and entered the Marine Aviation Cadet Program at Naval Air Station Pensacola. He was commissioned a 2nd Lt. in 1965.[3]

Vietnam[edit]
Black served as a pilot in the US Marines during the Vietnam War, earning the Purple Heart medal.[1] He flew 269 combat helicopter missions with HMM-362, which operated out of Ky Ha, Vietnam.[3]

From 11 February to 17 June 1967, he served as Forward Air Controller for the 1st Marine Regiment, making 70 combat patrols in the jungle. He engaged in intense combat around Nui Loc Son in April 1967.[5] He received the Navy Commendation Medal with "V" for valor, while serving as Forward Air Controller for 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment. Lt. Black volunteered to join Fox Company, 1st Marines, which held the ridgeline at Nui Loc Son—an extremely dangerous and remote outpost in the Que Son Valley.[5]

Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps[edit]
After the war, he left the service and graduated from law school, returning to military service as a prosecutor with the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General's Corps.[1] Black later headed the Army's Criminal Law Division at the Pentagon, before retiring from the military in 1994.

In 1996, Dick Black was practicing military law in Northern Virginia. In an interview with The Washington Times, Black said despite evidence that mixed gender training leads to sexual misconduct, the Pentagon will not revert to same-sex assignments between instructors and recruits. Black said doing so "would be inconsistent with this tremendous drive to feminize the military today, to pretend there is no difference between the sexes."[6]

I only watched half of what he had to say and I’m no expert on the art of war but do know it would be the worst thing any human could be asked to endure. I stopped watching when he spoke of Russia protecting the Donbas region and the intent to protect it from a Ukraine invasion. I have to ask though, why was the invasion orchestrated on many fronts including firing on and moving on the northern portions of the country if their only reason was to protect the separatists?

 

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Why are they still talking to 'b*stard Putin' | Arseniy Yatsenyuk
15,662 views Jun 14, 2022 As the war in Ukraine continues into it's 110th day President Zelenskyy says the battle for the key eastern city of Severodonetsk is taking a “terrifying” human toll. All of the bridges in Severodonetsk have been destroyed, making it impossible to bring in humanitarian supplies or evacuate citizens. We spoke to Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Former Prime Minister of Ukraine asking him how and when he predicts this war will end.

 

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How Russia could collapse (again)
131,033 views Jun 14, 2022 Russia collapsed twice before in the 20th century, and while another #collapse is unlikely, the #Ukraine war has stripped bare #Russia’s internal mechanisms.

 

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Ukraine has enough ammunition but needs long-range weapons, Zelenskiy says

Ukraine's military has enough ammunition and weapons, but needs more long-range weapons, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told Danish journalists on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

Ukraine has enough ammunition but needs long-range weapons, Zelenskiy says

COPENHAGEN, June 14 (Reuters) - Ukraine's military has enough ammunition and weapons, but needs more long-range weapons, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told Danish journalists on Tuesday.

"We have enough weapons. What we don't have enough of are the weapons that really hits the range that we need to reduce the advantage of the Russian Federation's equipment," Zelenskiy said at an online press briefing organized by Danish publishing house Berlingske Media.

 

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[BudmanTX]

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i just came across 2 reports of that .......seems he "disappeared" and no one can find him

 

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One wonders who they were planning on selling such specialized parts to? Who were the end buyers going to be? Ukrainian intelligence?

Ukraine Releases List of Russian Officers Who May Be Sabotaging Putin's War

Ukraine's defense intelligence service released a report on an alleged attempt by Russian commanders to compromise their own equipment and sell off parts.

www.newsweek.com

 

[captainmorgan]

Russian soldiers are complaining that Ukraine snipers are shooting them in the balls.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I wonder how much of Russia's paper army is real, how much has been pilfered for parts and metals over the decades of improper storage? How much is usable and are there people trained in it's use? Word has it Vlad started 65% of his available ground combat power in Ukraine and the last I heard he was up to 85% of available ground forces committed to the fight. Russia has been going through, infantry and officers at a terrific rate in the Donbass and St. Javelin leaves few surviving tank crews or vehicle drivers. The better NATO artillery is in the line and even though they don't have much, where they do employ it with counterbattery radars and drones, it is devastating for the Russians.
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Russia Turns to Old Tanks as It Burns Through Weapons in Ukraine
Russia may be only a few months from needing to slow operations for a major regroup given how much of its military arsenal it has already used.
June 14, 2022, 12:33 PM ADT
Russia is scraping across the country to find manpower and weapons, including old tanks based in the Far East, having used up much of its military capacity in the first 100 days of its invasion of Ukraine, according to senior European officials with knowledge of the situation on the ground.

As a result, Russia may be only a few months from needing to slow operations for a major regroup, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that aren’t public. The Kremlin might also be forced to announce a mass mobilization in order to call up soldiers to continue the fight, the people said, though that’s something President Vladimir Putin so far has been reluctant to do as it would amount to a public admission the war isn’t going as planned.