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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Lucky Luke said:
ahh propaganda- so much on this thread.
We will but most of the reasons are already known. Japan's side was interesting well after WW2 isnt it? Australia's First nations is also coming to light after 200 bloody years.. and that's also very interesting. How white history taught that is criminal.
I want to learn more about the illegal takeover of Hawaii. i only just found out about that a few days ago. So that's interesting.
Hindsight is lovely.
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heres some hindsight you might want to look into, personal history is usually much more enlightening than the history of anonymous people...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALiCzsaN6IboRh1icwekS0L1kwogLss8zg:1655911280318&q=australian+injustice+to+aboriginal+people&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjH9JGdrsH4AhU1GFkFHc1RAm0QBSgAegQIARAy&biw=1600&bih=749&dpr=1.2

here's some more
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=racism+in+australia

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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Lucky Luke said:
Im not apologising for anything Russia did or is doing. Do i need to copy and paste again?
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no, you need to quit doing it and denying you're doing it...saying that if America wouldn't have gotten involved (at Ukraine's request) the war would already be over is being an apologist...and if you don't understand that, you probably never will.
that is implying, strongly, that russia is right in their actions, and that Ukraine and it's allies should have just rolled over and taken whatever russia wanted to do to them, to avoid inconveniencing the rest of the world....
and that is a fucked up attitude, which i am glad most of the rest of the world sees as what it is, horseshit.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Lucky Luke said:
They HAVE invaded Ukraine. Talking about invisible lines on a map is just that. Its interesting is it not, like watching a chess match.
if you want to go back to the start of this thread i didnt think Russia would invade Ukraine. So maybe do some research on what i thought 4 months ago.
Finland is part of Nato so that's a completely different discussion (as is why Finland was granted Nato membership) and why would Russia invade Finland? Has invading armies gone across Finland to Invade Russia? Is Finland pat of Russian defence strategy?
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putin has already made provocative statements about future dealings with Poland, Finland, and now Lithuania...
but hey, i'm sure he will just take what he wants, after murdering thousand of civilians, and raping anyone convenient, after looting their homes and stealing their food...better to let him do what he wants, less mess that way...:finger:
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Lucky Luke said:
Finland should just stay neutral maybe..whos gunna trust it?

Finland participated in the Second World War initially in a defensive war against the Soviet Union, followed by another battle against the Soviet Union acting in concert with Nazi Germany and then finally fighting alongside the Allies against Germany.
You did look after your Jews though. Not many countries did that even when occupied.
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maybe Finland wants to stay neutral, but is afraid that if they do, they'll be next on putin's lunch platter?
then why not a little Sweden for dessert? i mean, we're already in Finland, might as well, it's right next door...:finger:
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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jsatch said:
An ally lol

A country In the top 3 most corrupt is considered allies huh. Are they a NATO ally too?
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Funny how ousting Putin's puppets so that they can actually try to clean up their corruption coincided with Putin beginning his attack on them.

And yes, they are an ally to NATO nations too.

jsatch said:
They were voted the most corrupt nation in Europe before the war began, you're always wrong and I'm gone with it.
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lol what a troll move.
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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printer said:
Not a bad read at this point in the video.

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The thing is though, each MLRS system can take out the rear C&C, logistics and support of a BTG with a reload. The Russians have about 100 BTGs left, though they have been bringing in untrained reserves when they can dragoon them, T80 and T62 junk. Use a couple of MLRSs and a couple of reloads on 5 ton trucks and they can punch through several BTGs and get into their rear creating havoc among forces with dead leadership, poor training and communications. They would use artillery, drones and armored assaults supported by infantry on the layered defenses up front, while the MLRS took out the rear support and reserves.

It will have to wait until the equipment arrives and is deployed with units and perhaps other forces are trained too. Meanwhile the Russians are attacking and getting chewed up, not as many as we would like and it's far too close a thing and far too costly for the Ukrainians IMHO. We will see how many MLRS reloads Uncle Sam gives them, but a tractor trailer with a flat bed could haul quite a few reloads I imagine and they must have plenty prepositioned in Europe already.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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BudmanTX said:
it's a bird, it's a plane (it really is), it's a kamakazie drone hitting a gas refinery......boom

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539512743333613569

and just right over the border too.....
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That thing didn't cost too much at all, powered by a glorified lawn mower engine (American design, dime a dozen from China) and constructed from common materials, using a cheap $100 RC plane flight controller with GPS. It would hit inside about 6 feet most of the time, could go for many miles and could be immune to most jamming. It could fly low and terrain follow to an extent too and use multiple GPS waypoints to do it. Seriously these could be mass produced by Ukraine for a few grand a piece, bungie and catapult launched to give a long reach with a hundred pound warhead. A flying M777 shell with a range of hundreds of kilometers and the accuracy of a Excalibur round, for a small fraction of the cost of an Excalibur round too!
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED said:
That thing didn't cost too much at all, powered by a glorified lawn mower engine (American design, dime a dozen from China) and constructed from common materials, using a cheap $100 RC plane flight controller with GPS. It would hit inside about 6 feet most of the time, could go for many miles and could be immune to most jamming. It could fly low and terrain follow to an extent too and use multiple GPS waypoints to do it. Seriously these could be mass produced by Ukraine for a few grand a piece, bungie and catapult launched to give a long reach with a hundred pound warhead. A flying M777 shell with a range of hundreds of kilometers and the accuracy of a Excalibur round, for a small fraction of the cost of an Excalibur round too!
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they need to keep doing it too.....hit every gas rigg right across the border, they might be able to hit the ones in the black see too.....

also looks like somethings is coming...Kherson...hehe
 
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