Libertarianism makes you stupid

[Rob Roy]

your beliefs rest on them not doing what they have always done and taking more by force.

You have just described government and / or it's cronies though. Since we know THAT'S bad...it's time for an actual free market, not crony capitalism.

 

[dstroy]

You have just described government and / or it's cronies though. Since we know THAT'S bad...it's time for an actual free market, not crony capitalism.

When is your fantasy novel on the subject being released?

 

[HGCC]

Except corporations in the present are a government created and protected creature. Without that protection and without customer support how long could they set rivers on fire?

I would buy from a service provider that didn't do that, if one were allowed to exist.

I'm not talking about the modern sense though. There weren't regulations. The market was free. The regulations came after the free market continued to demonstrate that they couldn't or wouldn't regulate themselves.

You might not do business with them, do you think everyone will do the same? They would all have to have hive mind and think the same for that to be the case.

Edit: they have private security...yeah olde non-government in your world doesn't seem like it could withstand a private army since you need them to not be able to impose their will or infringe on people's rights.

 

[Rob Roy]

When is your fantasy novel on the subject being released?

I'll make sure you get the kids coloring book version so you can grasp the basic concepts.

 

[HGCC]

You have just described government and / or it's cronies though. Since we know THAT'S bad...it's time for an actual free market, not crony capitalism.

See above. You ever looked at the coal industry during the 1800s and early 1900s.

 

[Rob Roy]

The regulations came after the free market continued to demonstrate that they couldn't or wouldn't regulate themselves.

Service providers often DON'T regulate themselves. It's the feedback of the consumers that creates "regulation" in an actual free market.

Also, there really hasn't been a free market without some form of government protectionism baked into it that I can think of. Robber barons became robber barons and continue to do so today by "buying government" not because there is no government to hold them in check.

 

[Rob Roy]

See above. You ever looked at the coal industry during the 1800s and early 1900s.

Weren't some of the coal miner strikes stopped by government ?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

When is your fantasy novel on the subject being released?

let me know, i'd really like a copy...he HAS to be good at thinking up fantasy, it's all he does

 

[Rob Roy]

let me know, i'd really like a copy...he HAS to be good at thinking up fantasy, it's all he does

Speaking of fantasy, how is it possible to delegate a right that you don't possess ? Still winning.

 

[dstroy]

Speaking of fantasy, how is it possible to delegate a right that you don't possess ? Still winning.

Is that why your party is in charge? Is that why we live in a libertarian society? It’s all in your head.

 

[dstroy]

Rob sounds like a street preacher, assaulting people that walk past with nonsense.

 

[Rob Roy]

Rob sounds like a street preacher, assaulting people that walk past with nonsense.

 

[dstroy]

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My mind is free Rob, my body is a meat car that carries my consciousness. You’d do well to learn that.

 

[HGCC]

Weren't some of the coal miner strikes stopped by government ?

I would wager quite a few more were put down by a private army of Pinkertons.

 

[Rob Roy]

My mind is free Rob, my body is a meat car that carries my consciousness. You’d do well to learn that.

If your mind is free and your body was free (owned by you) you could put whatever you want or not in your body.

The fruit of the labor of your meat car body would be yours to decide what to do with, rather than feed the bodies of parasites that don't labor, only steal.

My body is warm and furry and smells like wet dog. Can't win them all.

 

[Rob Roy]

I would wager quite a few more were put down by a private army of Pinkertons.

(?) “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” ― George Orwell, Animal Farm

 

[dstroy]

If your mind is free and your body was free (owned by you) you could put whatever you want or not in your body.

The fruit of the labor of your meat car body would be yours to decide what to do with, rather than feed the bodies of parasites that don't labor, only steal.

My body is warm and furry and smells like wet dog. Can't win them all.

Everyone has that option, it’s called free will. I’m a disabled veteran so arguing against social safety nets is not going to fly. Poor kids of bad parents shouldn’t be hungry.

man your views are fucking awful and evil.

 

[cannabineer]

Everyone has that option, it’s called free will. I’m a disabled veteran so arguing against social safety nets is not going to fly. Poor kids of bad parents shouldn’t be hungry.

man your views are fucking awful and evil.

so stop feeding the troll already. Don’t aid and abet.

 

[Rob Roy]

man your views are fucking awful and evil.

No they aren't.

My views are that you own your body, the fruit of your labor and your justly acquired property. Further, I think the best human relations occur on a peaceful and consensual basis. No part of that is evil or awful.

 

[Rob Roy]

so stop feeding the troll already. Don’t aid and abet.

At least you didn't whine about an imaginary strawman in that post.

Progress.