Aussie Growers Thread

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What notes are you running now?
I run H&G but still have the habit of buying the bud xl and top shooter aswell sometimes run multizyme too.

At this point all I'm running Is

Coco A+B
Roots Excelurator for clones and early veg
Multizyme (thinking of dropping this) which I then I switch to -
Bud XL in flower

Top Shooter
Great White

The Top Shooter is good stuff. One of my mates uses Cyco A+B and I told him to try Top Shooter this run with it and his plants have fucking exploded, same strain from clones. he's stoked. I will continue to use the Top Shooter but some lads here have me looking at the 321 with combisol and I'd like to do some digging about it

 

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sounds like a dick. Ditch him. Let him work out his own Shit

Yeah I'm not friends with him anymore, he's a greedy cunt. I was helping him trim once and a bud fell into the res of all his budmeister PGR chem soup of 80 different nutes and he pulled it our and trimmed it up like 'that's 10 bucks I need I don't care about some stoner's health'

Every time I yielded good or told him about something cool with my plants he'd just go "yeH well I don't care I make more money and y plants finish in 7 weeks" and if I learned something he didn't know and td him he'd act like already knew it like VPD etc

Piece of shit that guy was, one of the types that gives growers a bad name

 

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At this point all I'm running Is

Coco A+B
Roots Excelurator for clones and early veg
Multizyme (thinking of dropping this) which I then I switch to -
Bud XL in flower

Top Shooter
Great White

The Top Shooter is good stuff. One of my mates uses Cyco A+B and I told him to try Top Shooter this run with it and his plants have fucking exploded, he's stoked. I will continue to use the Top Shooter but some lads here have me looking at the 321 with combisol and I'd like to do some digging about it

Ah so exact same as me besides the great white. I forgot to mention I also rum roots excelerator too but I run until about 2nd week of flower. My veg period is only 3 - 4 weeks from well rooted clone, my pots are massive 6gal so like to try get them rooted out quick.
I run multizyme till week 4 of flower then switch to bud xl.
The top shooter is good stuff but Dam expensive. I don't use much with my current strain tho cos she doesn't like anything over 1.3ec

 

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Ah so exact same as me besides the great white. I forgot to mention I also rum roots excelerator too but I run until about 2nd week of flower. My veg period is only 3 - 4 weeks from well rooted clone, my pots are massive 6gal so like to try get them rooted out quick.
I run multizyme till week 4 of flower then switch to bud xl.
The top shooter is good stuff but Dam expensive. I don't use much with my current strain tho cos she doesn't like anything over 1.2ec

I have played with top booster but haven't managed to figure out how to use it properly every time I lt nuked my plants but I think that was before I figured out how to keep on top of pH but I'm not game to try again.

 

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I have played with top booster but haven't managed to figure out how to use it properly every time I lt nuked my plants but I think that was before I figured out how to keep on top of pH but I'm not game to try again.

Hahaha my mate gave me some of that to try and I just made a small res about 3 days worth with that in the Mix, so that worry me haha

I made it up kinda like I do with top shooter.
My water is hard and starts at 0.4 ec bring that up to around 0.9 with a+b and bud xl then brought it up to 1.2 with the top booster I that that was about 1ml per litre

Also my pH k ly seems to swing when I ha e the roots exculpatory in the mix once I drop that and clean the res it seems to stay pretty stable

 

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but some lads here have me looking at the 321 with combisol and I'd like to do some digging about it

I looked into jacks 321 but can't get it here in aus.

 

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I looked into jacks 321 but can't get it here in aus.

Let me know how you go with the top booster, keep your pH in check. If your leaves don't die and turn to brown death then you're golden because that's what happened to me.

I have a feeling it was the pH . Keep on top of it especially with the top booster and shooter I'm curious to try booster again

Jacks isn't available here but apparently campbells combisol is the go.

 

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Let me know how you go with the top booster, keep your pH in check. If your leaves don't die and turn to brown death then you're golden because that's what happened to me.

I have a feeling it was the pH . Keep on top of it especially with the top booster and shooter I'm curious to try booster again

Jacks isn't available here but apparently campbells combisol is the go.

This pic is from today everything is green and I am starting the 3 days of top booster tonight. I'll give you a update in 1 and 2 weeks too see what happens. I really hope I don't cook them lol.

Ah ok I'll definitely have to look into the Campbell's especially if it's cheap.

 

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Ah so exact same as me besides the great white. I forgot to mention I also rum roots excelerator too but I run until about 2nd week of flower. My veg period is only 3 - 4 weeks from well rooted clone, my pots are massive 6gal so like to try get them rooted out quick.
I run multizyme till week 4 of flower then switch to bud xl.
The top shooter is good stuff but Dam expensive. I don't use much with my current strain tho cos she doesn't like anything over 1.3ec

At this point all I'm running Is

Coco A+B
Roots Excelurator for clones and early veg
Multizyme (thinking of dropping this) which I then I switch to -
Bud XL in flower

Top Shooter
Great White

The Top Shooter is good stuff. One of my mates uses Cyco A+B and I told him to try Top Shooter this run with it and his plants have fucking exploded, same strain from clones. he's stoked. I will continue to use the Top Shooter but some lads here have me looking at the 321 with combisol and I'd like to do some digging about it

are you guys running the bud xl right? It’s only meant to be run for like a week about 4 weeks out from harvest. Top shooter is good shit but.

 

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are you guys running the bud xl right? It’s only meant to be run for like a week about 4 weeks out from harvest. Top shooter is good shit but.

I think your thinking about the top booster that's ment to run for 3 - 4 days at the end if week 5 then from week 6 onwards you change to the top shooter.
I believe bud xl is to be used from week 4 to the end, that's what the feeding charts say anyway.

 

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I looked into jacks 321 but can't get it here in aus.

Jacks isn’t available here but there are plenty of powdered ag based blends that are pretty close to jacks that will do the job. 2 bases I’ve looked at and are available pretty easily are campbells diamond special t or peters combi sol (along with calcium nitrate and magnesium sulfate). I’ve just ordered a bag of combi sol as my spec t ran out a month or so ago and I’ve been using h&g cocos which is a bit to expensive for my liking.

 

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I think your thinking about the top booster that's ment to run for 3 - 4 days at the end if week 5 then from week 6 onwards you change to the top shooter.
I believe bud xl is to be used from week 4 to the end, that's what the feeding charts say anyway.

Correct but I started using budxl as soon as I see pistils/flowers form, as directed on bottle which is usually like wk 2-3 for me

 

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I think your thinking about the top booster that's ment to run for 3 - 4 days at the end if week 5 then from week 6 onwards you change to the top shooter.
I believe bud xl is to be used from week 4 to the end, that's what the feeding charts say anyway.

yeah my bad I get the h&g water add ons confused. Only one worth running is the shooting powder/top shooter. Roots is pretty good in veg but.

bud xl is just mpk and/or potassium sulfate sold at a markup.

 

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yeah my bad I get the h&g water add ons confused. Only one worth running is the shooting powder/top shooter. Roots is pretty good in veg but.

bud xl is just mpk and/or potassium sulfate sold at a markup.

I do want to try a run with just roots and top shooter, dropping the multizyme and bud xl and see if it turns out any different.
I'm not sure what's in bud xl I think it's mainly enzymes. It's npk value is basicly 0 and doesn't effect the ec.

 

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I do want to try a run with just roots and top shooter, dropping the multizyme and bud xl and see if it turns out any different.

You can get a barley extract from Bunnings cheap that will replace multizyme. It’s used for ponds and crap.

Personlly I dont Use roots or top shooter. They’re good products, I just don’t use them. Atm other than the base a+b cocos I’m using, barley extract, nts cmb trio and fulvic acid as foliar treatments, great white in the medium at transplant as well as mono ammonium phosphate (map) and mono potassium phosphate (mpk) in flower to boost ok.

 

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You can get a barley extract from Bunnings cheap that will replace multizyme. It’s used for ponds and crap.

Personlly I dont Use roots or top shooter. They’re good products, I just don’t use them. Atm other than the base a+b cocos I’m using, barley extract, nts cmb trio and fulvic acid as foliar treatments, great white in the medium at transplant as well as mono ammonium phosphate (map) and mono potassium phosphate (mpk) in flower to boost ok.

Ok awesome I will look into them, as I'm looking to reduce the cost of my nutes. The base a&b is pretty cheap for me as it last me ages with this strain that gets nute burn 1.3 ec that's about 1ml per litre for me with my hardish water that comes out the tap at 0.4ec.
In saying that I've just bought a bunch of different seeds that I want to try out.

 

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Ok awesome I will look into them, as I'm looking to reduce the cost of my nutes. The base a&b is pretty cheap for me as it last me ages with this strain that gets nute burn 1.3 ec that's about 1ml per litre for me with my hardish water that comes out the tap at 0.4ec.
In saying that I've just bought a bunch of different seeds that I want to try out.

1.3ec? Dang. I can’t run under 1.4 in veg atm without getting nitrogen and calcium deficiencies.

even the base is too expensive for me. I got some 10l drums for $150 and it still works out 10x more than buying dry powders. 15kg of combi sol is $340, calcium nitrate was $80/15kg and mag sulf was $90/15kg. that 15kg of combi will make something like 8000-12000ish litres of nutrient

Expensive initial outlay buying 15kg bags but works out magnitudes cheaper. Reminds me I need to buy a bag of mpk when I grab my combi sol.

 

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Nice one meant to ask how far a bag of powder went. I will definitely be looking into that.

 

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Nice one meant to ask how far a bag of powder went. I will definitely be looking into that.

I was getting 1kg to test off a mate. First kg lasted me 6 months. If you buy 15kg bags make sure you’ve got some kind of airtight container for them especially the calcium nitrate. They’ll want to absorb moisture, I use screw top 25l ex chem drums I pick up free/cheap with moisture eaters inside .

 

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Nice one meant to ask how far a bag of powder went. I will definitely be looking into that.

For a normal hobby grower a bag will be years of base nutrient.

for dosing small amounts I recommend making concentrated stock solutions to dose from.