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printer

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They might not need to destroy the Kerch bridge to cut the Russians off in the south and in the western half of Crimea. Once they defeat the Russians in Kherson and capture them, the river can act as a defensive line and the troops can head east, then south towards Metropol and the sea of Azov. This will force the Russians out of the nuclear power plant and out from behind their defenses in the Donbas to try and stop them with all hands-on deck!

Notice the critical rail junction in northern Crimea that would be in HIMARS or even tube artillery range on the map below. taking out that rail junction would be almost as good as taking out the bridge, the Russians can only operate a limited distance from their railheads because of very limited logistics.

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Remember you saying hitting a rail line is easily repaired.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Remember you saying hitting a rail line is easily repaired.
Rail junctions are a bit different and there are plenty of bridges going into Crimea, also if they are in tube artillery range of that Crimean junction, they can keep it under fire using drones to see the repair crews. The point is to get to Metropol and the shores of the sea of Azov and in range. It would be such a vital target it would force the Russians out from their defenses to stop them on open ground. If they take out the BTGs around Kherson and use the river as a defensive line, it will free up a lot of troops to head east then south. The Russians are having a Helluva time in the Donbas now and might be headed for another defeat around Lyman. In the south they are just gonna keep them cut off and make them use up ammo and fuel by pressing them slowly.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Remember you saying hitting a rail line is easily repaired.
Another thing about HIMARS and even tube artillery when coupled with drones, is they can drop rounds directly in front of a speeding train and take out the rails causing a shit storm 5 story high pile up on tracks and especially on bridges, which would collapse.
 

printer

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Another thing about HIMARS and even tube artillery when coupled with drones, is they can drop rounds directly in front of a speeding train and take out the rails causing a shit storm 5 story high pile up on tracks and especially on bridges, which would collapse.
So why have we not seen it yet? The Russians have been using trains in the range of the HIMARS?
 

doublejj

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Rail junctions are a bit different and there are plenty of bridges going into Crimea, also if they are in tube artillery range of that Crimean junction, they can keep it under fire using drones to see the repair crews. The point is to get to Metropol and the shores of the sea of Azov and in range. It would be such a vital target it would force the Russians out from their defenses to stop them on open ground. If they take out the BTGs around Kherson and use the river as a defensive line, it will free up a lot of troops to head east then south. The Russians are having a Helluva time in the Donbas now and might be headed for another defeat around Lyman. In the south they are just gonna keep them cut off and make them use up ammo and fuel by pressing them slowly.
This is how my father was wounded in WW2. He was a combat engineer for Pattons tanks in Italy. They had the Germans in full retreat and they would destroy the bridges as they fled and then the Germans targeted the engineers trying to repair them with artillery. RIP Pop
 
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Unclebaldrick

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The best outcome is that one of the klept invite him over for a nice dinner, put on some nice music (maybe "Yankee Doodle" on a continuous loop), feed him some heavily poisoned cakes, shoot him and then drown him in a nice river.
 

doublejj

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Russia knows the US is assisting Ukraine target high value assets using sophisticated (CIA) tracking methods. This is why Ukraine has been so successful in eliminating so many Russian generals and commanders with pinpoint accuracy.
 

printer

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Intercepted documents show pro-Russian officials allowing teenagers as young as 13 to vote in 'sham' referendums, Ukraine's security service says
The votes — on if the regions should join Russia — have been slammed by Ukraine and the West.
Pro-Russian officials holding illegitimate referendums in occupied Ukrainian territories are planning to encourage "minors" to vote so they can give the appearance of boosted participation, Ukraine's security service said.

Beginning on Friday and lasting through early next week, Moscow-backed separatists in four occupied regions in eastern and southern Ukraine — Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia — are holding referendums on joining Russia.

In eastern Ukraine's occupied Donetsk region, pro-Russian officials plan to include teenagers ages 13 through 17 in the voting process of the "sham referendum," Ukraine's security service — or SBU — shared in a Thursday statement. Citing intercepted documents, the SBU said "minors" will be accompanied by their parents, guardians, or orphanage representatives to polling stations.

The SBU said doing so will allow Russian proxies to build a more widespread voter base and "strengthen control" of the referendum's turnout.
"At the expense of minor 'voters,' the occupiers are trying to artificially increase the catastrophic lack of 'votes' in order to legitimize the fake [referendum]," the SBU said, adding that Russian proxies plan to involve families who registered to vote in Donetsk but now live in Russia so they can "rig the results."

As voting got underway on Friday, Russian soldiers and their proxies stood guard around election workers as Ukrainians voted and even showed up at people's homes, according to a report from the New York Times. One CNN report said some residents have ignored the call to vote, while others were forced to cast their ballots.

Ukrainian and Western officials have widely slammed the referendums as illegal and said the outcomes of any votes will never be recognized.
"Sham referendums have no legitimacy & do not change the nature of #Russia's war of aggression against #Ukraine. This is a further escalation in Putin's war," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said earlier this week.

During an address to the United Nations General Assembly on Wednesday, President Joe Biden said the "sham referendum to try to annex parts of Ukraine" is an "extremely significant violation of the UN charter."

Britain's defense ministry shared in an intelligence update that the votes are "likely driven by fears of imminent Ukrainian attack and an expectation of greater security after formally becoming part of Russia."

The announcement of the referendums earlier this week came after several weeks of Ukrainian advances along the war's eastern and southern fronts, including a punishing counteroffensive in the northeastern Kharkiv region, which has seen the eastern European country liberate thousands of square miles of territory that was previously under Russian occupation.

In response to the battlefield setbacks, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday announced the partial military mobilization of his country's reservists — a move that Western officials and war researchers have said will likely not have any tangible impact on the seven-month-long conflict for months.
 
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