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Roger A. Shrubber

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is this sabotage? or just shoddy russian building and maintenance?
if it is sabotage, it was done by a country with submarines...
the average depth of the pipeline is 80-110 meters, people can only scuba to about half that depth, without having to stop to decompress for quite a while...not really a stealth operation kind of thing...
which leads me to believe it's just from the shitty way russians do everything they do...but they'll still blame someone.
 

BudmanTX

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is this sabotage? or just shoddy russian building and maintenance?
if it is sabotage, it was done by a country with submarines...
the average depth of the pipeline is 80-110 meters, people can only scuba to about half that depth, without having to stop to decompress for quite a while...not really a stealth operation kind of thing...
which leads me to believe it's just from the shitty way russians do everything they do...but they'll still blame someone.
i'm kinda thinking it is, but by the Russians....seems something???? made a hole in the pipeline, and from some reports it's a good size......
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
is this sabotage? or just shoddy russian building and maintenance?
if it is sabotage, it was done by a country with submarines...
the average depth of the pipeline is 80-110 meters, people can only scuba to about half that depth, without having to stop to decompress for quite a while...not really a stealth operation kind of thing...
which leads me to believe it's just from the shitty way russians do everything they do...but they'll still blame someone.
not to go DIY on you, but a wire-guided submersible drone bearing a few kg of thump, operated from a pleasure boat, could do it. The U have shown adeptness at improvising that way. (An autonomous drone could do it, but is a much tougher build.)

However, unplanned failure could explain.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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not to go DIY on you, but a wire-guided submersible drone bearing a few kg of thump, operated from a pleasure boat, could do it. The U have shown adeptness at improvising that way. (An autonomous drone could do it, but is a much tougher build.)

However, unplanned failure could explain.
would the Ukrainians have such a thing? i'm guessing thats a pretty expensive, specialized piece of equipment. it's certainly possible, but as far as i know, they don't have much in the way of their own pipelines to maintain. i guess it could be used to inspect bridges, damaged ships, etc...
it just seems like a very remote place to strike, when those pipelines all run above ground for hundreds if not thousands of kilometers.
 
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cannabineer

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would the Ukrainians have such a thing? i'm guessing thats a pretty expensive, specialized piece of equipment. it's certainly possible, but as far as i know, they don't have much in the way of their own pipelines to maintain. i guess it could be used to inspect bridges, damaged ships, etc...
it just seems like a very remote place to strike, when those pipelines all run above ground for hundreds if not thousands of kilometers.
A commercial solution for about the price of a car. It would be a bit like operating a claw game with unlimited quarters.

The advantage of doing it in deepish water is that it becomes a bitch to repair.

 

printer

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The State Duma of the Russian Federation agreed to write off mortgages and loans from part of the mobilized
The State Duma agreed to write off mortgages and loans from part of the mobilized citizens. Write-offs concern those mobilized citizens who will die or receive the first group of disability. Anatoly Aksakov, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on the Financial Market, spoke about this.

“If a person dies or becomes a disabled person of the first group, he does not pay loans from a bank or an MFI, these debts are not transferred to anyone,” Aksakov said, speaking at a plenary meeting of the State Duma. His words are quoted by TASS. According to Aksakov, this is not yet indicated in the current version of the bill.

The Kremlin admitted that Ukraine will continue the shelling of Donbass after the referendums
Ukraine may continue the shelling of Donbas after the referenda on the entry of the liberated territories into Russia. This was stated by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov.

“It will depend on the Ukrainian side. The situation will radically change from a legal point of view, from the point of view of international law, with all the consequences of protecting the security of these territories,” Peskov told reporters. The information is transmitted by the correspondent of URA.RU. So he answered the question whether the shelling in the Donbass will stop after the republics join Russia.

Kazakhstan will extradite Russia deviators from partial mobilization
azakhstan is going to extradite the Russians for evading partial mobilization if they received a summons and left. This was announced by the head of the Interior Ministry of Kazakhstan Marat Akhmetzhanov.

“The two states have an agreement on the extradition of criminals and those suspected of crimes. But there are no legal grounds for the extradition of those who did not receive a summons and left the Russian Federation, ”Kazakhstan Akhmetzhanov was quoted by Sputnik as saying. According to him, the Russians will be extradited if they are wanted.

Putin revealed what will happen to the record grain harvest in Russia
Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed what will happen to the record grain harvest that Russia will receive in 2022. He made it clear that Russia will provide not only for itself, political scientists explained to URA.RU the results of Putin's meeting on the situation in agriculture on September 27. The harvest will be enough to maintain world food stability. If the West is interested in this and does not want to bring the situation to the onset of famine in the poorest countries, it should abandon sanctions against the Russian Federation, experts say.

The grain harvest this year will be a record one, President Putin began a meeting on the situation in the agro-industrial complex. “138.7 million tons of grain have been threshed. This is about a third more than in the same period last year. According to experts, the total grain harvest may reach 150 million tons. Wheat - about 100 million tons. This will be a record value in the entire history of Russia,” Putin said and stressed that this would allow the Russian Federation to “guaranteedly cover its own needs.”

Such a harvest is an additional resource for increasing exports, the President noted. However, the supply of grain and fertilizers to world markets , he said, is still difficult. And if the sanctions on Russia are not lifted, it threatens a "global food crisis." “This is completely unrelated to Russia’s special military operation in the Donbass. The responsibility for it lies entirely with the collective West. The cost of food on the world market has returned to the levels of the beginning of the year, but at the same time 40 percent higher than in 2020.

Wow, how did they achieve such an increase in production? Ukrainian grain?

Foreign military correspondent dispelled Western myths about the referendum
Colombian military corpsman William Parra dispelled Western myths about the referendum, that people vote against their will. He told about it to the correspondent of URA.RU.

“I perfectly understand that people who come here are tired of living in constant fear. They want the country to recover. They want a normal job, they want to live in peace. Therefore, I would say that this is a vote of hope, ”said the military commander. He also noted that if there is pressure on the residents of the liberated territories, it is only from Ukraine.

The comment below the article.

"it’s funny if, before the vote count, in Russia24 they say that people vote as they should)))))))))) Pysy: Parra currently has political asylum in Venezuela after he was accused of having connections in Colombia with the FARC rebels."
 

printer

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In Photos: Occupied Ukrainian Regions Vote in 'Sham' Annexation Referendums





Pretty easy to see how your neighbour voted. Armed soldiers for security.
 

cannabineer

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In Photos: Occupied Ukrainian Regions Vote in 'Sham' Annexation Referendums





Pretty easy to see how your neighbour voted. Armed soldiers for security.
I’m wagering that folding the ballot (or taping a blank across the show face) is a prison offense.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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not to go DIY on you, but a wire-guided submersible drone bearing a few kg of thump, operated from a pleasure boat, could do it. The U have shown adeptness at improvising that way. (An autonomous drone could do it, but is a much tougher build.)

However, unplanned failure could explain.
The GPS coordinates of the pipeline are well known and all you have to do is drop a depth charge or something equivalent off the back of a boat and bang
 

DIY-HP-LED

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is this sabotage? or just shoddy russian building and maintenance?
if it is sabotage, it was done by a country with submarines...
the average depth of the pipeline is 80-110 meters, people can only scuba to about half that depth, without having to stop to decompress for quite a while...not really a stealth operation kind of thing...
which leads me to believe it's just from the shitty way russians do everything they do...but they'll still blame someone.
I believe the pipeline was constructed by a western contractor Russia doesn't have those capabilities
 
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