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Budzbuddha

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The U.S. Embassy in Moscow has urged all Americans in Russia to flee the nation following President Vladimir Putin’s "partial mobilization" decree last week.

"Russia may refuse to acknowledge dual nationals’ U.S. citizenship, deny their access to U.S. consular assistance, prevent their departure from Russia, and conscript dual nationals for military service," the embassy warned Tuesday.

Join now , Komrade brother , enjoy good food and high pay !
See American weapons up close !
Become a Sunflower !

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DIY-HP-LED

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The U.S. Embassy in Moscow has urged all Americans in Russia to flee the nation following President Vladimir Putin’s "partial mobilization" decree last week.

"Russia may refuse to acknowledge dual nationals’ U.S. citizenship, deny their access to U.S. consular assistance, prevent their departure from Russia, and conscript dual nationals for military service," the embassy warned Tuesday.

Join now , Komrade brother , enjoy good food and high pay !
See American weapons up close !
Become a Sunflower !

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Only an idiot would be in Russia at this point, unless they were a journalist or diplomat, everyone draftable under 35 is running out of Russia like rats and mice from an old barn on fire. Vlad is reluctant to keep them from leaving since some will end up causing big trouble at home, or they will shoot their officers in Ukraine and surrender en mass. The Ukrainians are offering better terms than Putin and cash rewards for military equipment. They are hammering the Russians with psychological warfare now, broadcasting on their CB era 1980's unencrypted radios and on local commercial radio. This new hoard of very reluctant and poorly equipped warriors has rock bottom morale and is digging bedrock furiously.

A major Russian loss in Kherson looks likely with equipment and 20K of some of their best combat units in Ukraine in the bag. If Vlad thought losing Kharkiv was bad, wait until he loses half of Luhansk too and that looks likely soon too. Europe might have a bad winter and have to do some innovating with wood stoves and such, but Vlad will have a far worse one and so will his remaining army in Ukraine.
 

PJ Diaz

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Don't worry though, it's not just Republican presidents who have been accused as War Criminals, the US is an equal opportunity killing machine. Skipping past #3 (Nixon), we have this guy at #4:

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hanimmal

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Meanwhile back in current reality.

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Russian troops have raped and tortured children in Ukraine, carried out a “large number” of executions and committed other war crimes, according to a United Nations investigation by legal experts.

Set up by the U.N. to probe the conduct of the war, the Independent International Commission of Inquiry reported its chilling findings Friday in Geneva, describing a long list of abuses and atrocities in four regions.

“Based on the evidence gathered by the commission, it has concluded that war crimes have been committed in Ukraine,” Erik Mose, the chairman of the three-member commission, told the U.N. Human Rights Council.

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Mose, a Norwegian judge, said the commission has documented cases in which children have been "raped, tortured and unlawfully confined."

“There are examples of cases where relatives were forced to witness the crimes," he added. "In the cases we have investigated, the age of victims of sexual and gendered-based violence ranged from 4 to 82 years."

Children also have been killed and wounded in “indiscriminate attacks” by Russian forces using explosive weapons, he said.

Mose said that he and his colleagues “were struck by the large number of executions in the areas that we visited.”

The commission is investigating executions in 16 towns and settlements and has “credible allegations regarding many more cases of executions, which we are documenting further,” he said.

The execution cases often featured “the prior detention of the victims as well as visible signs of executions on bodies, such as hands tied behind backs, gunshot wounds to the head, and slit throats,” according to Mose.

For Ukrainians who were unlawfully detained, witnesses “provided us with consistent accounts of ill-treatment and torture,” he said.

The update from the commission follows other allegations of war crimes from international human rights groups, Western governments and Ukrainian authorities, including the recent discovery of a mass burial site in the eastern town of Izyum.

The commission also had found two cases of “ill-treatment against Russian Federation soldiers by Ukrainian forces,” he said. “While few in numbers, such cases continue to be the subject of our attention."

The commission focused on the regions of Kyiv, Chernihiv, Kharkiv and Sumy, visiting 27 towns and settlements and interviewing 150 victims and witnesses.

As it continues its investigation, it will examine the forced transfer of people and the alleged expedited adoption of children, Mose said.

The United States has accused Russia of interrogating, detaining and forcibly deporting hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to Russia. An unknown number of children are believed to have been adopted by Russian families. The alleged deportations represent a war crime, violating the Geneva Conventions, U.S. officials say.

Russia has denied committing war crimes and defended its conduct of the war since it launched the invasion Feb. 24. Russian officials say Ukrainians who relocated to Russia traveled there voluntarily.

But sure, 'but America'.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There no words strong enough to describe how sickening and infuriating this war is.
The cause was stupid and evil and the invasion a brutal failure, the Ukrainian response courageous and glorious. It is in such fire's that nations are forged, no nation building required here, the Ukrainians have taken care of that for themselves. The atrocities only serve to strengthen their resolve and cause allies to send even more weapons and ammo, as their populations are revulsed by the brutality and war crimes. Vlad will end up a war casualty too and if he really does have 200 billion dollars abroad with proxies, it will end up paying for much of the property damage in Ukraine.
 

Lucky Luke

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hmm , whats the list of was involving Austrailia....let see


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and look at the ones in the early years with the indigenious people....hmmm
The British were very cruel. And yes modern day Australians do bear some responsibility. Its why our PM Rudd did the famous Sorry speech. My own Step mother suffered terribly from the Colonialists. And yes we follow America into every war they start/get involved in like a good ally. Be nice if you didn't lie to us though..
Australians look like saints compared to America and Russia though.
 
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BudmanTX

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The British were very cruel. And yes modern day Australians do bear some responsibility. Its why our PM Rudd did the famous Sorry speech. My own Step mother suffered terribly from the Colonialists. And yes we follow America into every war they start/get involved in like a good allie. Be nice if you didn't lie to us though..
Australians look like saints compared to America and Russia though don't we?
then explain the new zeland war? and the wars of the idigenious people, and the russian civil war, and the one in china, india? u do realize u are a part of the monoarchy right?
 

Lucky Luke

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then explain the new zeland war? and the wars of the idigenious people, and the russian civil war, and the one in china, india? u do realize u are a part of the monoarchy right?
Australia has never been at war with New Zealand or Russia (might have been some Aust/british involvement with the allied intervention and intelligence gathering but our country wasn't involved in that short affair per say. Australia wasn't at war with Russia.) or China or India and we have a large % of 1st nation people in our armed forces- have done since WW1.

Are we? Not really but sorta- its complicated and simple at the same time...like They have a ceremonial role and we are part of it but we gained our Federation in the 1900s: After many years of debate and drafting, it was passed by the British Parliament, and given royal assent (approval by the Queen), in July 1900. The passing of the Constitution enabled Australia's 6 British colonies to become one nation, the Commonwealth of Australia, on 1 January 1901.

Australia is a constitutional monarchy with The Queen as Sovereign. As a constitutional monarch, The Queen, by convention, is not involved in the day-to-day business of the Australian Government, but she continues to play important ceremonial and symbolic roles. The Queen's relationship to Australia is unique.

America seems to celebrate royalty and stuff more than we do.
 
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