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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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PJ Diaz said:
Oh look we're on the brink of nuclear war all around the world. This unwillingness to negotiate seems to be really working out well (not).

www.cbsnews.com

South Korea scrambles fighter jets after spotting 180 warplanes maneuvering in North Korea

Pyongyang's move came after the North test-fired around 30 ballistic missiles over the two previous days, including an ICBM.
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who is unwilling to negotiate? north korea, iran, russia....shows of force, displays of weapons, lies about supplying arms for terrorist attacks in Ukraine. that is unwillingness to cooperate. go get them to sit at the table without trying to intimidate the rest of the participants.
if you're referring to the Ukrainians being unwilling to negotiate, good. they shouldn't be willing to negotiate. they were raped by russia 14 years ago, and now the russians are back trying to do it again...they should not be negotiated with, they should be castrated and left to bleed to death in a dirty fucking alley. and don't give me any fucking sanctimony either, they fucked up, continue to fuck up, and are trying to double down. fuck russia, they can end hostilities any time they get the fuck out of Ukraine, completely and totally.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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PJ Diaz said:
When was the last time we sat down with North Korea? We have no business negotiating with Russia, but we have business fighting them, and we have business overthrowing Ukrainian leadership and installing a new US-friendly government back in 2014?
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Trump sent love letters to Kim FFS and met him. He starves his people FFS and is a beast, how South Korea deals with the criminal regime is up to them. We support the liberal democratic side and it isn't him

We are not fighting Russia, they invaded Ukraine in 2014 and recently after assuring their national boundaries on several occasions the also involved the USA and UK. They violated the UN charter and broke international law, it's not just America, it's 50 nations giving aid to Ukraine.

The US didn't throw out the corrupt government in Ukraine that Putin installed, the people did in mass protests that involved most of the country.

You are echoing republican and Foxnews talking points which is identical to Kremlin propaganda.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Trump sent love letters to Kim FFS and met him. He starves his people FFS and is a beast, how South Korea deals with the criminal regime is up to them. We support the liberal democratic side and it isn't him

We are not fighting Russia, they invaded Ukraine in 2014 and recently after assuring their national boundaries on several occasions the also involved the USA and UK. They violated the UN charter and broke international law, it's not just America, it's 50 nations giving aid to Ukraine.

The US didn't throw out the corrupt government in Ukraine that Putin installed, the people did in mass protests that involved most of the country.

You are echoing republican and Foxnews talking points which is identical to Kremlin propaganda.
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So this 2014 article from the Guardian is right-wing lies? Kinda weird, since the author is a lefty.

www.theguardian.com

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne

Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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PJ Diaz said:
So this 2014 article from the Guardian is right-wing lies? Kinda weird, since the author is a lefty.

www.theguardian.com

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne

Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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that's one guys opinion, and i don't agree with him at all...he sounds like he's roger waters roommate. Ukraine is a free country, able to join any fucking thing it wants, and fuck russia in the face for even having a fucking opinion about what another free country does.
oooh, we pushed russia into it by expanding NATO...NATO is a defensive organization. if russia didn't have plans for conquest, they wouldn't give one flying fuck about NATO. so, in conclusion, NATO defensive, russia offensive, in every way.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
that's one guys opinion, and i don't agree with him at all...he sounds like he's roger waters roommate. Ukraine is a free country, able to join any fucking thing it wants, and fuck russia in the face for even having a fucking opinion about what another free country does.
oooh, we pushed russia into it by expanding NATO...NATO is a defensive organization. if russia didn't have plans for conquest, they wouldn't give one flying fuck about NATO. so, in conclusion, NATO defensive, russia offensive, in every way.
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Of course you don't have to agree with him, but your attempt at framing this position as "right-wing propaganda", clearly has it's argumentative errors as lefties were echoing this sentiment way back in 2014.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Ukrainians are a crafty bunch - here we see a Yemen built drone from twigs. Ukrainians could probably fab up a frame from some old Russian debris laying around.

Arabic Vid

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586011832136785920

The drone is a reminder that such devices can actually be pretty simple. “I think the biggest benefit of this design is that once key materials are available – a battery, a receiver, several small motors, propellers and wiring – such a drone can be essentially assembled ‘on the fly,’ pun intended,” says Samuel Bendett, an analyst at the Center for Naval Analysis and adjunct senior fellow at the Center for New American Security.

What’s striking is how this drone distills the aircraft down to minimum parts. The wee flying machine is motors, writes, controls, and something it can all stick to. In this case, literal sticks, or stems from the qat plant.

“Obviously, some experience building and flying such quadcopters is helpful in making sure the drone can be properly stabilized, but a lot of those requirements and knowledge is freely available online as well,” says Bendett. “The main point of this video is that the quadcopter frame can be assembled from any products freely available. And the rest of the components can be relatively easily procured or even built/3D printed if necessary.”
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Budzbuddha said:
Ukrainians are a crafty bunch - here we see a Yemen built drone from twigs. Ukrainians could probably fab up a frame from some old Russian debris laying around.

Arabic Vid

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586011832136785920

The drone is a reminder that such devices can actually be pretty simple. “I think the biggest benefit of this design is that once key materials are available – a battery, a receiver, several small motors, propellers and wiring – such a drone can be essentially assembled ‘on the fly,’ pun intended,” says Samuel Bendett, an analyst at the Center for Naval Analysis and adjunct senior fellow at the Center for New American Security.

What’s striking is how this drone distills the aircraft down to minimum parts. The wee flying machine is motors, writes, controls, and something it can all stick to. In this case, literal sticks, or stems from the qat plant.

“Obviously, some experience building and flying such quadcopters is helpful in making sure the drone can be properly stabilized, but a lot of those requirements and knowledge is freely available online as well,” says Bendett. “The main point of this video is that the quadcopter frame can be assembled from any products freely available. And the rest of the components can be relatively easily procured or even built/3D printed if necessary.”
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if only people could be that innovative saving lives, instead of taking them.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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PJ Diaz said:
So this 2014 article from the Guardian is right-wing lies? Kinda weird, since the author is a lefty.

www.theguardian.com

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne

Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Who is marching to the recruiting offices and who is running for the borders to avoid conscription? People are voting with their feet.

There are voices on the left and right, the extreme left wants appeasement and peace at any price, those on the right are echoing Russian talking points and so is Foxnews. Republicans never used to be such chickenshits, or traitors, Trump led them down into the gutter real fast. It's his opinion, no more valid than mine and I have a different one, the FSB was running wild in Ukraine and Putin had influence over the oligarchs who owed much of the industry in Ukraine and were the source of much of the legendary corruption. Paul Manfort was working for them and had to move out of Ukraine in a hurry in 2014, back to America where he was available to run Trump's campaign and continue his dealings with the Russians during the election. Trump tried to extort Zellenskiy over Javelin missiles and military aid and was reluctant to help, he too suggested "negotiations".
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Budzbuddha said:
Ukrainians are a crafty bunch - here we see a Yemen built drone from twigs. Ukrainians could probably fab up a frame from some old Russian debris laying around.

Arabic Vid

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586011832136785920

The drone is a reminder that such devices can actually be pretty simple. “I think the biggest benefit of this design is that once key materials are available – a battery, a receiver, several small motors, propellers and wiring – such a drone can be essentially assembled ‘on the fly,’ pun intended,” says Samuel Bendett, an analyst at the Center for Naval Analysis and adjunct senior fellow at the Center for New American Security.

What’s striking is how this drone distills the aircraft down to minimum parts. The wee flying machine is motors, writes, controls, and something it can all stick to. In this case, literal sticks, or stems from the qat plant.

“Obviously, some experience building and flying such quadcopters is helpful in making sure the drone can be properly stabilized, but a lot of those requirements and knowledge is freely available online as well,” says Bendett. “The main point of this video is that the quadcopter frame can be assembled from any products freely available. And the rest of the components can be relatively easily procured or even built/3D printed if necessary.”
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what are writes?
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Budzbuddha said:
Ukrainians are a crafty bunch - here we see a Yemen built drone from twigs. Ukrainians could probably fab up a frame from some old Russian debris laying around.

Arabic Vid

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586011832136785920

The drone is a reminder that such devices can actually be pretty simple. “I think the biggest benefit of this design is that once key materials are available – a battery, a receiver, several small motors, propellers and wiring – such a drone can be essentially assembled ‘on the fly,’ pun intended,” says Samuel Bendett, an analyst at the Center for Naval Analysis and adjunct senior fellow at the Center for New American Security.

What’s striking is how this drone distills the aircraft down to minimum parts. The wee flying machine is motors, writes, controls, and something it can all stick to. In this case, literal sticks, or stems from the qat plant.

“Obviously, some experience building and flying such quadcopters is helpful in making sure the drone can be properly stabilized, but a lot of those requirements and knowledge is freely available online as well,” says Bendett. “The main point of this video is that the quadcopter frame can be assembled from any products freely available. And the rest of the components can be relatively easily procured or even built/3D printed if necessary.”
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The old quadcopters and Tri copters were made from wood, the magic is in the flight control computer. Ya can make a pig fly with an FC taped to its forehead and enough vectored thrust coming out of its asshole. Same tech and many of the component's cellphones use and a cheap FC cost less than $100

 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
DIY-HP-LED said:
The old quadcopters and Tri copters were made from wood, the magic is in the flight control computer. Ya can make a pig fly with an FC taped to its forehead and enough vectored thrust coming out of its asshole. Same tech and many of the component's cellphones use and a cheap FC cost less than $100

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That is what had me confused. I did not see something to vary thrust at each propeller nor give three-axis control. Or a control receiver. None of those can be Flintstoned.
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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This could control one of those Iranian drones, it's not up to ballistic missile or shell standards but works just fine for drones and even cruise missiles. A similar flight controller could turn a dumb bomb into a GPS guided one by controlling the fins, instead of the motors. These are available from dozens of online vendors including Chinese ones by the hundred lot or more and they will ship near anywhere not sanctioned. However, embassy staff in many places can order things online delivered to home and they set up fake companies, etc. The point is commercial technology that has military crossover applications is becoming ubiquitous and difficult to control. It allows countries like Iran and Ukraine to mass produce stealthy very long-range drones that can strike deep into enemy territory with high accuracy. If such things were used against the Russian power grid by Ukraine, I think they would be fucked and in the dark for a long time pretty quickly.

 
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