AG Garland appoints special counsel

Sir Napsalot

Sir Napsalot

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Maintaining proper take-up torque is somewhat challenging in older machines- the NOS rubber tires are mostly degraded but I have alternate sources
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Fogdog said:
They chose to stop searching after recovering thousands of pages of stolen document and didn't need any more evidence, perhaps?
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I would be a bit disappointed if the actual operation was just to charge him with a crime, and not to get “all” of the documents back. If in fact they are/were a threat to your national security? The charging/conviction is a real tasty frosting though.
 
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printer

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Fogdog said:
They chose to stop searching after recovering thousands of pages of stolen document and didn't need any more evidence, perhaps?
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At Maralago they had informants telling them where the documents are. It might have been a stretch searching all his properties.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
I think that’s the FBI’s job.
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They do the leg work and are the initial "point of contact", but Jack gets the warrants and after the latest news about more documents found, I figure he will, though this search warrant could be accompanied by an arrest warrant. His lawyers will soon be given a choice, he either turns himself in, or they come get him and purp walk him to the judge.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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printer said:
Then why do you think the DoJ has been soft on him? Because of his hair? Would another ordinary person have been treated the same way?
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I don’t know. It might be wishful thinking, but since I believe that it is important to bring down the other big conspirators, I’m hoping that DOJ is holding fire on a sure thing until they have some other big fish in the net. It is the only legitimate scenario I can construct, and the failure to perform a coordinated search on Mr. Classified Documents’s other properties weakens it.

I am reduced to waiting and watching in unsatisfied ignorance.
 
Fogdog

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cannabineer said:
I don’t know. It might be wishful thinking, but since I believe that it is important to bring down the other big conspirators, I’m hoping that DOJ is holding fire on a sure thing until they have some other big fish in the net. It is the only legitimate scenario I can construct, and the failure to perform a coordinated search on Mr. Classified Documents’s other properties weakens it.

I am reduced to waiting and watching in unsatisfied ignorance.
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Your immediate satisfaction is not considered to be important in this investigation nor should it be.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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printer said:
Then why do you think the DoJ has been soft on him? Because of his hair? Would another ordinary person have been treated the same way?
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That changes the moment he appears before a federal Judge in DC for a plea hearing on his indictment over the documents. That is the equality under the law Judge Garland was speaking of, it will make no difference to the judge what Donald's last job was, there is no provision under the law for ex presidents and that process begins with indictment. The courts cannot treat him any differently than others charged with similar crimes and that goes for sentencing too. Prosecutors have broad discretion as to how, when or even if they proceed with indictments, however once the hammer drops the countdown clock begins, along with equality under the law.
 
Fogdog

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cannabineer said:
was I suggesting that?
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You seemed to be whining about it. "I am reduced to waiting and watching in unsatisfied ignorance. "

Maybe I'm grumpy this morning or maybe I'm reaching a limit of tolerance for people complaining about how long it is taking for the legal system to work through the process of investigating Trump for his many crimes.

Your complaint that the DOJ "should" have searched all of Trump's properties by now smacks of a similar uninformed impatience. Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not believe that a blanket search of all of Trump's properties would have been approved by a judge. I do not believe spending resources trying to obtain such a search warrant is worthwhile at this time. I do not believe it is necessary to find all of the stolen documents to convict Trump of crimes he committed in this case. I believe the highest priority is to complete the investigation into the crimes and hold Trump accountable for them.

The DOJ collected tens of thousands of pages of US property in the form of classified and other important documents from Mar a Lago. That is enough evidence to at the very least try and convict Trump under the espionage act. There is enough evidence to also pin him with the crime of obstruction. Trump cannot win in a trial, so he's trying to run out the clock on Biden's term in office on the chance that the next administration will put a stop to it. So I support a closed ended investigation and prosecution that is focused on the Mar a Lago documents without scope creep. The letter requiring Trump's lawyers to certify they have returned ALL documents has put them on notice that they are in legal jeopardy for looking the other way regarding the horde of other documents we all know Trump is hiding. To me, it's enough for now that the DOJ has unofficially told Trump's staff that they know Trump is hiding more than what was found in Mar a Lago. Even the DOJ's resources are limited. That Man must be held accountable for his crimes, beginning with the ones we can successfully prosecute and obtain a verdict before the end of 2024.
 
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