***Official Nutrients Thread***

floydfanx6

floydfanx6

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doc,,my number 1 concern is taste,,if im using botanicare pbp,liquid karma,calmag,hydroplex,,,u dont think feeding guano tea would be too much? lets say i feed,water water feed, usually,,,when would i be adding guano tea and how often in veg and flower,,,i use sucanat,and molasses by the way i like to switch it up,since i belive there are other things that molasses has that suanat doesnt
 
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DR. VonDankenstine

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floydfanx6 said:
doc,,my number 1 concern is taste,,if im using botanicare pbp,liquid karma,calmag,hydroplex,,,u dont think feeding guano tea would be too much? lets say i feed,water water feed, usually,,,when would i be adding guano tea and how often in veg and flower,,,i use sucanat,and molasses by the way i like to switch it up,since i belive there are other things that molasses has that suanat doesnt
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Ya Mollasses has a larger percentace of NPK and trace elements than suconat. If you number one cocern is taste then again make sure to flush well and dry and cure slowley------the bat guano and organic nutes will give you an earthy taste(my fav) over a chem taste. You really cant over-do it with all the additives as long as you're ppm's are keeped in check. Try feeding base nutes on one day---then next feed day all add's plus carb products w/ben-myo----then next feed plain h2o. I like this schedual if you are adding alot of ADD's because your plants don't miss out on the correct dose of base nutes.
 
floydfanx6

floydfanx6

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so when u make yr guano tear you mix your other nutes with it?? i thought would just give it the tea,then next time nutes,,,how do you think i should schedule myself between feedings,waterings,and tea's,,,,like i said i usually feed,water,water,feed,,so how should i incorporate tea into this? or should i go water,feed,water,feed
ty doc,uv helped me out so much in the paste,i am a disciple of vondakenstine
 
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DR. VonDankenstine

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floydfanx6 said:
so when u make yr guano tear you mix your other nutes with it?? i thought would just give it the tea,then next time nutes,,,how do you think i should schedule myself between feedings,waterings,and tea's,,,,like i said i usually feed,water,water,feed,,so how should i incorporate tea into this? or should i go water,feed,water,feed
ty doc,uv helped me out so much in the paste,i am a disciple of vondakenstine
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Brother---i'm no expert but glad I have been able to help you out----I'm still learning myself(trying to get the breeding thing dialed in)---anyway-there are a couple of ways about going to feeding your bat shat:lol:---You can add all your base nutes with the shat and bubble overnight for a tea---You could also add the bat shat to your myo/benific and carbs and bubble overnight--you can also bubble all of it together and feed. here's my 2 cents---I like to add the bens/myo/base and sugar(carb) with the bat shat and bubble over night.---The reason is that the bens/and myo start to break down the bat shat and nutes so that the plants can start to assimilate them as soon as they hit the soil. I fill a 5 gal with r/o water then add all my nutes and add's----then I put a bubblier in there and let the thing work it's magic(bens and myo love o2) 24 hours later I add the 5 gal to my feeding container filled up to 75% r/o ---check my ppm's and add or remove water till dialed in then ph the water and feed---that's it---works like a charm. There's no right or wrong way as far as the feed schedule---some feed every time with a 50% solution of what others would feed every time and there's some that feed twice then just plain water. more important is that your ppm's and ph is on.
 
mauichronic808

mauichronic808

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i have a plant that was needing a little help since shes 3 weeks old and was starting to "eat herself" so i added some "alaskan fish fertilizer" its 5-1-1 is this too much or not enough or just right?
 
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DR. VonDankenstine

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mauichronic808 said:
i have a plant that was needing a little help since shes 3 weeks old and was starting to "eat herself" so i added some "alaskan fish fertilizer" its 5-1-1 is this too much or not enough or just right?
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3 weeks is about the time a plant needs some nutes---The AFF is a solid organic nute---Use a very little to start(200-250 ppm's) and work your way up slowley with every other feed. If you are using R/O water you might need some cal/mag in about 2 weeks as well.
 
mauichronic808

mauichronic808

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i just eyeballed the amount i put in which was a cubic inch or about a table spoon per large water bottle and then added some more. so about a table spoon per gallons worth like it said on the bottle.
 
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DR. VonDankenstine

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mauichronic808 said:
i just eyeballed the amount i put in which was a cubic inch or about a table spoon per large water bottle and then added some more. so about a table spoon per gallons worth like it said on the bottle.
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Should have used 1/4 of that to start but hopefully you will not get any burn---keep me in the loop.
 
Earl

Earl

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I hope you guys are talking about soil growing.

This is the hydro thread, not a dirt thread.

You might get some people confused.
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MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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Really Earl? I thought this was the ***Official Nutrients Thread*** ... :?

Jk

-on a side note-

You can breed your bacterial and fungal cultures if you have an extra container for 20 gallons of water. They eat and reproduce, so you'll have an unlimited supply and not have to buy more.

Just add your Pirahna and Tarantula to the 20 gallons, add some carbs, like carboload, and an airstone, and you're set.

I take a gallon of the cultured water to 10 gallons of plain water for every feeding to keep the colonies up at a strong level. Just start out with a gallon of the fungal bacterial mix, and add the rest of your regiment.

Replace whatever you take out of the resevoir with plain water, and a little more carboload, and they'll continue to reproduce.




Also, are you serious about not seeing any difference between using the Sensizym vs not using it?

And I agree about the Colossal Bud Blast, you only use it in veg and the first week of flower, at a very diluted rate. It's high in Nitrogen, smells like ammonia and shit, and one liter will last a couple years. If it was sold in small bottles like 2oz, it would be more practical, at 80 bucks a liter it's definately not worth it.

I did notice a strong bounceback from using the budblast, the plants were dark green and extremely healthy, I used it on some adopted plants that weren't doing so great, rootbound yellowing and starving, and they looked great after just one week, but all the credit isn't given to budblast, I was using the entire 2+ Advanced lineup.

I'm actually quite impressed with the current results of using FF, I think I'm going to use it as the majority, and AN as the minority in my garden, money is tight...
 
Earl

Earl

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My bad,
I thought this thread wass in the hydro forum,
so that is why I made that assumption.

I have also had this same problem when I was a noobie
and I din't recognize the dirt farmers were giving advice in the hydro forum.

Grower beware !

Not all the information
given by these experienced growers
pertains to hydro growing
and so you need to filter these out
if you are looking for hydro info.

I mean, I still had to ask if you were growing in dirt,
before I could understand what you are teaching.

General info like that may need in-depth explanations.

Be sure and mention that
you are giving advice for growing in dirt.

Especially if it is in the hydro forum,
coming from someone who is not a hydro grower.


Thanks Doc and please pardon my gaff.
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DR. VonDankenstine

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MrHowardMarks said:
Really Earl? I thought this was the ***Official Nutrients Thread*** ... :?

Jk

-on a side note-

You can breed your bacterial and fungal cultures if you have an extra container for 20 gallons of water. They eat and reproduce, so you'll have an unlimited supply and not have to buy more.

Just add your Pirahna and Tarantula to the 20 gallons, add some carbs, like carboload, and an airstone, and you're set.

I take a gallon of the cultured water to 10 gallons of plain water for every feeding to keep the colonies up at a strong level. Just start out with a gallon of the fungal bacterial mix, and add the rest of your regiment.

Replace whatever you take out of the resevoir with plain water, and a little more carboload, and they'll continue to reproduce.




Also, are you serious about not seeing any difference between using the Sensizym vs not using it?

And I agree about the Colossal Bud Blast, you only use it in veg and the first week of flower, at a very diluted rate. It's high in Nitrogen, smells like ammonia and shit, and one liter will last a couple years. If it was sold in small bottles like 2oz, it would be more practical, at 80 bucks a liter it's definately not worth it.

I did notice a strong bounceback from using the budblast, the plants were dark green and extremely healthy, I used it on some adopted plants that weren't doing so great, rootbound yellowing and starving, and they looked great after just one week, but all the credit isn't given to budblast, I was using the entire 2+ Advanced lineup.

I'm actually quite impressed with the current results of using FF, I think I'm going to use it as the majority, and AN as the minority in my garden, money is tight...
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Thanks for the post----Ya-the sensizym didn't do anything for the grow that I was testing at the time----even a die-hard AN rep of 7 years doesn't use the stuff-----I get outstanding results in fast root growth with Bcuss Root stim(greenfuse is close to the same). I could'nt get past the baby shit smell with the BUDBLAST but I have gotten away from foliar almost all-together. What water temp do you thing produces the bens and myo the fastest? Thanks again for the post.
 
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DR. VonDankenstine

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Earl said:
My bad,
I thought this thread wass in the hydro forum,
so that is why I made that assumption.

I have also had this same problem when I was a noobie
and I din't recognize the dirt farmers were giving advice in the hydro forum.

Grower beware !

Not all the information
given by these experienced growers
pertains to hydro growing
and so you need to filter these out
if you are looking for hydro info.

I mean, I still had to ask if you were growing in dirt,
before I could understand what you are teaching.

General info like that may need in-depth explanations.

Be sure and mention that
you are giving advice for growing in dirt.

Especially if it is in the hydro forum,
coming from someone who is not a hydro grower.


Thanks Doc and please pardon my gaff.
.
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Good point----I have done small hydro set-up's and understand the basics but an expert I'm not. I try to send growers in the right direction when it comes to hydro advice. Maybe while your here you could answer the post a hydro grower had------"What is the lowest and highest temp res water can be and what is the idle temp?" Thanks for the reply and stopping by.-------------Side note--------Earl----I'm still going to give you guys a run for your money in the hydro nutrient challenge--I know you have be practicing and tweaking everything to get dialed in--I'm going to be the long-horse and show new growers that even they can grow beautiful plants like the pro's with basic hydro knowledge and a little desire:mrgreen:
 
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