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doughper

Well-Known Member
civil war inside the GOP
What is this republican civil war? They're not at each other's throats,
never have been. That party has been solidly unified since Nixon.
Always on board with no corp taxes, eliminate all social programs,
autocratic power control, and enslavement of the people. There's no
civil war in republicans, none at all. They'd vote for satan himself, if
it furthered their power agenda. What civil war? If you mean Kinsinger
and Cheney, well, okay, if two dissenters make up some kind of civil
war, then well, you can't call two dissenters a war, can you? Who else?
Name three others who would defer totalitarian, one-party autocracy
for a democratic, two- or multi-party political system and government?
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
What is this republican civil war? They're not at each other's throats,
never have been. That party has been solidly unified since Nixon.
Always on board with no corp taxes, eliminate all social programs,
autocratic power control, and enslavement of the people. There's no
civil war in republicans, none at all. They'd vote for satan himself, if
it furthered their power agenda. What civil war? If you mean Kinsinger
and Cheney, well, okay, if two dissenters make up some kind of civil
war, then well, you can't call two dissenters a war, can you? Who else?
Name three others who would defer totalitarian, one-party autocracy
for a democratic, two- or multi-party political system and government?
The magats are going after Mitch real hard over Ukraine and for funding the government for another year. The magats are nuts and Mitch wants to memory hole Trump and put lipstick on the pig. There is chaos and division in the GOP house majority with a few of them facing possible indictment over J6. The last thing Mitch wants is for house republican committee chairs or members to be indicted. I don't think he wants McCarthy as leader, that would mean the house is controlled by Trump and the magats until Trump is indicted. You might see a few moderate republicans align with the democrats to elect a compromise speaker, or the democrats can let them twist in the wind.
 

doughper

Well-Known Member
I could be totally out of touch here, I dunno. But I sure like how you frame it. I just don't believe it.
It's all to do with GOP control of Congress, i think.

How can anybody be indicted or the J6 committee even continue after swear-in on 1-20-23?
Inauguration day, all progress stops, no more hearings, referrals, nothing. End of story. There is
no such thing as a moderate republican. Cheney and Kinsinger are out, so who? Nobody. Those
guys are as cohesive an adversary as there ever was. It's like they're the Taliban and you want gays
in the Taliban army, or women in schools. "Not gonna happen", is what one famous ex-pres said,
GHW Bush, remember, "no new taxes". "Not gonna happen." :) Repugs can't go moderate, they'll
be voted out. That's what's called party unity, right there.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I could be totally out of touch here, I dunno. But I sure like how you frame it. I just don't believe it.
It's all to do with GOP control of Congress, i think.

How can anybody be indicted or the J6 committee even continue after swear-in on 1-20-23?
Inauguration day, all progress stops, no more hearings, referrals, nothing. End of story. There is
no such thing as a moderate republican. Cheney and Kinsinger are out, so who? Nobody. Those
guys are as cohesive an adversary as there ever was. It's like they're the Taliban and you want gays
in the Taliban army, or women in schools. "Not gonna happen", is what one famous ex-pres said,
GHW Bush, remember, "no new taxes". "Not gonna happen." :) Repugs can't go moderate, they'll
be voted out. That's what's called party unity, right there.
Consider: the referrals have been sent. The Committee succeeded in making millions of voters sit up and listen. DOJ is not beholden to Congress. Jack Smith has a free hand. When Republican legislators get indicted (and I believe they made too big and too well-documented a mess for any of their dark side skills or decoys under the bus to divert the asteroid) party unity will be suicide.

I think this time it’s perhaps just different enough to shake the foundation.
 

doughper

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I sure hope you two are right. This'd be ... democracy? Like Watergate, kinda?
Constitutional and political systems in play that actually work against those
who'd commit treason? I don't see how it gets confirmed by their constituency,
tho. Yanno, the maggots, or magats, or whatever. They're what, 150 million strong?
You can't go against them. We don't have the military might. oh shit...
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I sure hope you two are right. This'd be ... democracy? Like Watergate, kinda?
Constitutional and political systems in play that actually work against those
who'd commit treason? I don't see how it gets confirmed by their constituency,
tho. Yanno, the maggots, or magats, or whatever. They're what, 150 million strong?
You can't go against them. We don't have the military might. oh shit...
lol who is 150 million strong?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
I still don't think there's much there in the tax returns, my guess was he fought it so hard because they showed he wasn't wealthy/successful. Maybe I'm wrong, but are they expecting some line item for piss tapes? You pay taxes on legal money you earn, or illegal money if you need to get it into the financial system. Gotta assume he made enough to live on through legal means, tv show host stuff and whatnot.

I think the taxes showed he was a medium millionaire, like John Elway makes more off his car dealerships than trump does. It's an ego thing, he's a fucking poor loser compared to who he wants to be and what he tries to project.
it shows that he's cheated for at least the past 20 years and opens him up for tax evasion charges. i don't care what they convict him of...he took a 72 million dollar tax return, and the IRS has been auditing him for a decade...time to do something about it, now.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukrainian Troops Say Russian 'Zombies' Repeatedly Attack Lines Around Bakhmut

Ukrainian soldiers defending the key eastern city of Bakhmut say the battles are constant and "cruel," describing ineffective Russian tactics that are endlessly repeated. They say Russian soldiers advance, Ukrainian artillery destroys them, then more come the next day.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
it shows that he's cheated for at least the past 20 years and opens him up for tax evasion charges. i don't care what they convict him of...he took a 72 million dollar tax return, and the IRS has been auditing him for a decade...time to do something about it, now.
Some adjustments will have to be made and back taxes paid, if he has any money left. No point in indicting him over it, he has but one old ass to give to Uncle Sam's cage and the Top-Secret documents and obstruction convictions alone will ensure he dies in that cage
 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
it shows that he's cheated for at least the past 20 years and opens him up for tax evasion charges. i don't care what they convict him of...he took a 72 million dollar tax return, and the IRS has been auditing him for a decade...time to do something about it, now.
The fact that after all this time the IRS hadn't even finished 1 complete audit of 6 possible yrs of returns stinks to high heaven and looks like another scandal in the making, only one IRS agent assigned to this huge task?, audits only began after House Ways and Means requested access to them?, what kind of pressure,payoff, or threats did Mr. Orange or his henchmen exert for not ONE complete audit to have been conducted in 6 years?
 

CCGNZ

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Ukrainian Troops Say Russian 'Zombies' Repeatedly Attack Lines Around Bakhmut

Ukrainian soldiers defending the key eastern city of Bakhmut say the battles are constant and "cruel," describing ineffective Russian tactics that are endlessly repeated. They say Russian soldiers advance, Ukrainian artillery destroys them, then more come the next day.
Poor bastards, Russian conscripts sent in wave, cannon fodder frontal assaults, probably w/a machine gun trained on their backs, similar to Russian WW2 penal battalions sent on suicide missions through minefields or frontal assaults,advance and die or retreat and die.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Poor bastards, Russian conscripts sent in wave, cannon fodder frontal assaults, probably w/a machine gun trained on their backs, similar to Russian WW2 penal battalions sent on suicide missions through minefields or frontal assaults,advance and die or retreat and die.
Voting and having it count is easier, when it doesn't, shit like this happens, ultimately the fight is liberal democracy and the rule of law versus despotism and imperialism, the future versus the past. It is happening there and in America too, though by different means, plenty threw away their lives for Trump and the big lie. More Americans died needlessly in the pandemic under Trump, than died in the Ukraine war, Russians included! When Zellenskiy visits congress, it will be familiar to him, he is used to visiting battlegrounds and the capitol was one on J6.
 

HGCC

Well-Known Member
it shows that he's cheated for at least the past 20 years and opens him up for tax evasion charges. i don't care what they convict him of...he took a 72 million dollar tax return, and the IRS has been auditing him for a decade...time to do something about it, now.
I would take any sort of conviction, doubt it happens. The IRS has had the taxes forever, that isn't a new thing. If they were going to nab him on that why wouldn't they have done it by now and/or before he was president, he has been a tax cheat forever.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Will the magats shout at him him in congress? Will MTG scream Nazi! Or, where's the money! Basically scream everything you see in Russian bot posts on Tweeter that are retweeted through out the magaverse. They are even competing with the Russians for the best false narrative and they borrow from each other shamelessly. It is hard to know who is a Russian troll or a magat from the content of their posts, the lies all blend into one big streaming pile of bullshit. It's ready to be eaten up by those who need to believe, the idiots, assholes and just plain evil.

 

CCGNZ

Well-Known Member
Voting and having it count is easier, when it doesn't, shit like this happens, ultimately the fight is liberal democracy and the rule of law versus despotism and imperialism, the future versus the past. It is happening there and in America too, though by different means, plenty threw away their lives for Trump and the big lie. More Americans died needlessly in the pandemic under Trump, than died in the Ukraine war, Russians included! When Zellenskiy visits congress, it will be familiar to him, he is used to visiting battlegrounds and the capitol was one on J6.
Very true,and it's astonishing that the MILLION + Covid deaths in the US seem forgotten already,another eg. of the American attention span,think about it ONE MILLION dead,that's almost double America's WW2,2 theaters of war,casualties sustained in 4 yrs.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
I could be totally out of touch here, I dunno. But I sure like how you frame it. I just don't believe it.
It's all to do with GOP control of Congress, i think.

How can anybody be indicted or the J6 committee even continue after swear-in on 1-20-23?
Inauguration day, all progress stops, no more hearings, referrals, nothing. End of story. There is
no such thing as a moderate republican. Cheney and Kinsinger are out, so who? Nobody. Those
guys are as cohesive an adversary as there ever was. It's like they're the Taliban and you want gays
in the Taliban army, or women in schools. "Not gonna happen", is what one famous ex-pres said,
GHW Bush, remember, "no new taxes". "Not gonna happen." :) Repugs can't go moderate, they'll
be voted out. That's what's called party unity, right there.
how? because they're fucking criminals.
the freedumb carcass assholes, gaetz,greene, boebert, gosar, jones biggs...that whole crew is trying to derail the party and put their own train on the tracks...the fucking crazy train. they might succeed, but probably not. at this point in the game it doesn't matter. many of them will be facing indictments soon, they're just whistling past the graveyard right now, trying to be brave, while shitting themselves internally. they can take their offices, for the moment, but they won't keep them.
and if they do succeed, we'll get mike pillow humping lindell as the head of the rnc, greene and boebert on committees that will expose them for the fucking morons they are, everytime they make a stupid statement, which is every time they make any statement, and who the fuck knows who for speaker? if they stay out of court long enough to pick, it still won't matter...the worst of them are going away soon. to a cell. for a few years...
 
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