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Two Very Different Meetings With Zelenskyy, With Two Very Different U.S. Presidents
Morning Joe compares and contrasts Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's 2019 U.N. meeting with then-President Trump and Zelenskyy's meeting with President Biden on Wednesday.
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I noticed the maga republicans appear to be shrinking and as Donald goes down they will shrink even more. Joe was wise to single them out and isolate them from the conservative republicans, allowing Mitch a way back into normal politics, politics he will lose over the long run. The fascist elements inside the GOP must be isolated and Ukraine funding is one way to do it with the geopolitical bargain of the century. Another way to isolate them is through J6 prosecutions and investigations, the rest will run from trouble and that is what they will have.
Many times in the past America wished it had such allies against Russia, determined, brave and committed to liberal democracy at the grassroots level. They know how to deal with the Russians, they know them very well and everybody in Ukraine speaks Russian, Ukrainians will tell you that. Give them the weapons and financial support and they will do the rest, eventually Russia will pay for it all or most of their own destruction since we already have their money in the bank.
Many times in the past America wished it had such allies against Russia, determined, brave and committed to liberal democracy at the grassroots level. They know how to deal with the Russians, they know them very well and everybody in Ukraine speaks Russian, Ukrainians will tell you that. Give them the weapons and financial support and they will do the rest, eventually Russia will pay for it all or most of their own destruction since we already have their money in the bank.
I agree w/that,and certainly had no intent on diminishing the multitude of ravages left by war,not only the visual ,amputees or burns etc,but also the mentally scarred who IMO don't receive the support they deserve.VA hospitals should be better funded and these vets should lack for NOTHING.That so many organizations are looking for donations in this regard show that the gov. funding of VA affairs is woefully lacking. Shit Roman legionnaires were given land and revered status for their service. Don't forget the long Covid dilemma though,it's confounding doctors,and is a overlooked statistic when taking into account Covid's ravage.
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READ: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's remarks to Congress | CNN Politics
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed a joint meeting of Congress in Washington, DC, on Wednesday, marking his first visit outside of Ukraine since the Russian invasion began in February. Read his remarks as transcribed by CNN.
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Lawrence: History Was Made With Zelenskyy’s Speech To Congress
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell considers Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s speech to a joint session of Congress 81 years after Prime Minister Winston Churchill delivered his own historic wartime speech to Congress.
Texas is a big,proud, and powerful state,but yeah I wish it's people were more open minded,being pragmatic and fair on issues and trying to understand people by walking in their shoes a bit before hating on them doesn't make you a far lefter. But I wouldn't go off on anyone other their over politics w/out wearing body armor.I just know so many intelligent, smart (much smarter than I ever hoped to be) people who stand
by that bastard and seem (altho, i can't believe they really believe it) to believe that the election
was rigged, just like the bastard says it was. And then there are the flat earthers...:sigh: I gotta say
that i live in a highly right wing district. Dems don't even get on the ballot here. Our district went
like 73% for trump. I am alone here, very alone. And whenever I open my yap, i immediately am
afraid, very afraid.
BudmanTX
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texas isn't that bad, true we have a lot of idiots and stupid people, there is a portion who understand and has empathy
I'd like ti know the security details surrounding Zelinsky's flight from Poland over the Atlantic,to summons a guess I'd surmise it included a AWACs,a F-18 Growler or equivalent electronic jamming platform,2 F-22's off in the distance,and 2 F-16's visually off Zelinsky's wingtips.
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He is traveling on a US government plane as the honored guest of the President of the USA, attempting to attack it would be a fatal mistake that would not end there, but in a fucking nightmare in Moscow.
cannabineer
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Yup. Long Covid is a vexatious mystery. One of this virus’s nastier features.
We're ALL Americans man, We inevitably clash over political issues but when Americans hate on one another it only serves to put a smile on our adversary's faces, look at Boehner/Pelosi and Bush/M.Obama there are huge gaps in their political views yet they maintain warm relationships,that's where are political situation used to be as Americans,not the hate filled BS that goes on now.
BudmanTX
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very true
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Let's say they tried and killed him and Americans too on a US government plane. F-16s, warthogs, ATACMs and a couple of C130 gunships to deal with those pesky human wave attacks, among other things like massive aid and seizure of all Russian assets in the USA and turned over to Ukraine, would be the immediate response. In addition to that, Joe would make sure Putin was a dead man, America can't do the fucker, but the UK and others can! It would be an act of war and treated as such, but no boots on the ground or nukes would be needed. Ukraine will do all the punishing required, just give them the means and they will make the fuckers howl and dance. Kill their president and it will be open season on Vlad, the Kremlin is only 300 miles from their border and they would be dropping drones and cruise missiles on it with 1000 pound warheads at a steady rate! Besides the lights would be out in Moscow for the rest of the winter...
cannabineer
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Unless, of course, power grid.
I liked how he came in his "work clothes",all business,a man trying to save his beloved country,that guy has come a LONG way from his first visit looking uncomfortable while Mr. Orange tried to corrupt him and treated him as inferior,which wasn't surprising considering the source.
cannabineer
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Not the first or last time he would not be putin his place.
I hear ya,that's why I've given kudos to Ukraine's security services cause you know how happy Putin would be if he could get to him,With the prior Russian influence in Ukraine I was almost certainly expecting FSB agents already in place in "sleeper" mode ready to pounce at the beginning of hostilities. As I've said before I was braced for assassination attempts and acts of sabotage almost immediately running the gamut from poisonings,sniperings,to govt. buildings blowing up on day 1. The Ukrainian intelligence performance has been downright exceptional when taking the reach,tenacity, familiararity,and notoriety of their opponent.