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DIY-HP-LED

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Why would the Ukrainians attack? I mean as long as they can kill large numbers of Russians with few losses to themselves by defending against ineffectual Russian attacks. They are chewing up the Russian army just fine on defense while waiting for the weather to improve, the ground to freeze and the new western tanks to arrive.

If the objective is to destroy the Russian army with minimal loses, they are accomplishing that right now on the defensive. I suppose when enough Russians are dead and they are ready, they will attack, maybe even before the western tanks arrive to get setup for the spring offensive.


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DIY-HP-LED

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Soon it will be like Stalingrad, they will send the mobiks out with no guns and tell them, "just grab one from the mountain of corpses at the front"! They will be scattered all over the place as you approach the Ukrainian lines, the closer you get the more there will be. Now go get em tiger! :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Retired general explains why tanks are so significant on the battlefield

50,238 views Jan 25, 2023 #CNN #News
The leaders of the United States and Germany announced Wednesday that they will send tanks to Ukraine. Former CIA director and former commander of US Central Command, retired Army General David Petraeus, joins CNN’s Erin Burnett to discuss.


Retired lt. general on what will happen after Ukraine gets tanks

275,733 views Jan 25, 2023 #CNN #News
The United States and Germany announced they are sending Abrams and Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine. CNN's John King speaks with Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling on when the tanks will be ready for use. #CNN #News
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Another sign the Russians are coming apart at the seams and a rich recruiting ground for western intelligence agencies.


Man escapes feared Russian agency, reveals what Russian spies are saying

499,657 views Jan 25, 2023 #CNN #News
CNN's Melissa Bell speaks with two defectors from the FSB, Russia's federal security service, and reports on the danger they now face for speaking out against Vladimir Putin.
 

Sativied

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This is not good language from people with nukes.

"In a clip posted to Twitter, the state television anchor said Russia is "up against 50 countries that are united by Satanism," according to a translation."

With magats in the US, fascists leading Italy, Sweden led by neonazis, far-right in Poland, the racism and antisemitism across east europe, the numerous far-right populists in west europe - partly thanks to Russian misinformation meddling - it reeks of desperation to now sum the enemy up as Satanists.

One has to be really naive to not see where this is going or maybe not have much experience with people with mental conditions.

That said... do we mind this new label? I mean if we're going to make the Stand I'm definitely team Satan. I think we should roll with it. :twisted:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"In a clip posted to Twitter, the state television anchor said Russia is "up against 50 countries that are united by Satanism," according to a translation."

With magats in the US, fascists leading Italy, Sweden led by neonazis, far-right in Poland, the racism and antisemitism across east europe, the numerous far-right populists in west europe - partly thanks to Russian misinformation meddling - it reeks of desperation to now sum the enemy up as Satanists.

One has to be really naive to not see where this is going or maybe not have much experience with people with mental conditions.

That said... do we mind this new label? I mean if we're going to make the Stand I'm definitely team Satan. I think we should roll with it. :twisted:
It's a sure sign they are bedeviled, but much of it is caused by their own corruption and stupidity, though the Ukrainians seem to have a talent for making their lives Hell, along with a host of demons.
 
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BudmanTX

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"In a clip posted to Twitter, the state television anchor said Russia is "up against 50 countries that are united by Satanism," according to a translation."

With magats in the US, fascists leading Italy, Sweden led by neonazis, far-right in Poland, the racism and antisemitism across east europe, the numerous far-right populists in west europe - partly thanks to Russian misinformation meddling - it reeks of desperation to now sum the enemy up as Satanists.

One has to be really naive to not see where this is going or maybe not have much experience with people with mental conditions.

That said... do we mind this new label? I mean if we're going to make the Stand I'm definitely team Satan. I think we should roll with it. :twisted:
and don't forget we are the Nazi's as they say as well......
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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right now i'm tryin to figure out, who in the hell gave this guy a license to drive a tank....smh

When the Ukrainians hit these poor fucks they will go through them like shit through a goose and off into their rear. They can barely drive a tank, much less maneuver in battle and retreating in good order is harder than advancing when the heat is on. The Russian's communications are an analog mess and easily spoofed by the Ukrainians to call down fire on their own troops, or to cause panic in their rear. They might not wait for spring and new tanks to strike the Russians in a winter offensive operation to better position themselves for spring.
 

Sativied

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Doesn’t include this week’s update but anyone doubting Germany’s commitment:


Also:
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US has roughly 4x the population of Germany and gave roughly 4x as much too. Same for Poland and Canada, per capita there’s far less difference than the above graph suggests. Relatively, NL gives twice as much per person as the forementioned. But then when you look at gdp it’s all different again, but then one of the main reasons that gdp amounts to anything is Germany.

As for generous members in the east, main reason they have money to spare is cause they get billions in EU support paid by tax payers in the north and west. Any future economic problems or budget shortages are indirectly covered by a handful of healthy economies in west europe.

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Another year, just first I grabbed, showing most net beneficiaries with Poland recieving more than any other:
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So next time Poland bitches about Germany holding out or using their brains instead of feelings before make decisions, keep in mind the amount of financial support from Germany to Poland is about as large as Poland’s support to Ukraine.

And while I’m at it:

Average of 74%, for Germany 73%, undoubtedly cause the eastern former soviet part brings it down.
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Media loves to speculate on what happens when there’s not enough support anymore, people getting war-tired and other nonsense. It’s almost a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ukraine is fighting for the only reason many Europeans still see as a legit one. Not religion, not oil, but gas their land.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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4 fucking tanks? We have 80+ and if they are all not operational after a year of war in Europe, someone needs to answer for it. She is dodging because the tanks are in poor shape, we don't need tanks for home defense and could send all of the fucking things. What would happen if there was war in Europe, we only have 4 reserve tanks? Trudeau wants to help Ukraine, but can't it appears. Who are we gonna defend against with 80 tanks? Uncle Sam? WTF is gonna invade Uncle Sam's backyard in North America? We sent a lot to Ukraine and are one of the biggest contributors per capita, but this is fucking ridiculous, we have tanks in Europe already as part of NATO, give them the lot!

They are gonna get a lot of fucking heat over this bullshit, they have a minority government and parliament will want to know WTF is going on. They better do a better job of squirming than she did here and have some actual answers.


Anita Anand explains why Canada is only sending 4 tanks to Ukraine | Power Play with Vassy Kapelos

2,694 views Jan 26, 2023
Defence Minister Anita Anand says Canada is only sending four tanks to Ukraine while leaving some here to 'defend the homeland' if need be.
 
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