Conspiracy Theories

[skunkushybrid]

I will continue to post my opinions regardless of yours

So wtf you whinging about

That's exactly what I do.

I don't care if YOU think me an ass. Who the fuck are you?

Conspiracy theorists are complete morons. Needing to make shit up because they can't accept just how fucking GREAT mankind really is. We need to concentrate our efforts. All this bullshit does is give us something intangible to think about. Stops us realising our true aims.

 

[TheConstantGardner]

Why is it more plausible? Because it fits into YOUR little perception of reality? Just because they have the ability to fly a long way doesn't make them immune to malfunctions. We went to the space station and managed to destroy a whole space shuttle(Columbia). You guy's are the most narrow minded stoners I have ever come into contact with.




That's obviousley bullshit.

My little perception of reality comes from credible accounts. I don't deny the possibility, nay, the extreme probability of extrasolar life. I'm just saying the Roswell crash was a manmade craft used to monitor Russia's nuclear testing.

I don't think I'm narrow minded, but when a government scientist says "OK, we covered this up decades ago because the technology was new and crucial to our survival. This is what happened..." I tend to agree that this is a more likely scenario. I made no other statements regarding Area 51.

The photo was obviously intended to be bullshit and maybe cause a chuckle or two.

Relax

 

[Erniedytn]

So wtf you whinging about

That's exactly what I do.

I don't care if YOU think me an ass. Who the fuck are you?

Conspiracy theorists are complete morons. Needing to make shit up because they can't accept just how fucking GREAT mankind really is. We need to concentrate our efforts. All this bullshit does is give us something intangible to think about. Stops us realising our true aims.

Actually I'm not whining, just pointing out the fact that just because you don't believe something does not mean it isn't true, and that you don't have to be such an ass to people who think otherwise.

Actually not all conspiracy theorists are morons, they are just people trying to shed light on what is really going on.

Prime examples: 9/11, JFK assanination

You do not live in the US, so I wouldn't expect you to give a rats ass otherwise; but you actually believe that terrorists flew planes into the towers? You actually believe that this is what caused the towers to collapse?
Even if you watch them go down, and see explosions on the floors below? Even after the fact that hundreds of people heard explosions from all over the place when they were going down? What about the BBC reporting the collapse of WTC7 22 minutes BEFORE it actually collapsed? It is an obvious lie, all you have to do is open your eyes.

Then theres the Pentagon. What happened to all the wreckage? Where are the two engines, bodies, etc? What about the fact that the FBI swept the entire area to confiscate ALL security tapes of the event? What about the Apache helicopter that was seen hovering in the area moments before the blast? Why was the government conducting drills on this EXACT scenario the day it happened?

What about JFK? You believe the magic bullet theory? You actually think that Kennedy was killed by a lone gunman? Even if you watch the Zapruder film, and SEE him get hit 3 times, from 3 different directions? Once again an obvious lie, all you have to do is open your eyes.

What about that?

Watch this....It might open your narrow mind a little bit

Furthermore....the bullshit that the government and the media feeds us is what's intangible, and they have succeeded with you. Thats the bullshit that keeps us from realising our "true aims".

 

[Erniedytn]

I don't think I'm narrow minded, but when a government scientist says "OK, we covered this up decades ago because the technology was new and crucial to our survival. This is what happened..." I tend to agree that this is a more likely scenario. I made no other statements regarding Area 51.

The photo was obviously intended to be bullshit and maybe cause a chuckle or two.

Relax

"a government scientist" is the exact people that you cannot believe! They work for the government! Do you believe everything the government tells you? Just like those piles of WMD that Saddam had too right?

 

[skunkushybrid]

Actually I'm not whining, just pointing out the fact that just because you don't believe something does not mean it isn't true, and that you don't have to be such an ass to people who think otherwise.

There are plenty of people on this site that i differ from and I have never been an ass to them. At least not to the ones intelligent enough to read between the lines. I'm an ass to people that are an ass to me. I fight fire with fire. The guy in this thread did not have anything useful to say so I responded in kind.

Furthermore....the bullshit that the government and the media feeds us is what's intangible, and they have succeeded with you. Thats the bullshit that keeps us from realising our "true aims".

So now you believe in most of the Us and Them conspiracies. lol. You'll, quite simply, just never understand. There is no us and them, only US. I see through the real bullshit, but I do not search for shit that aint there. You're right, I couldn't give a rat's ass for JFK. I wasn't even born. In fact I couldn't give a rats ass about any stranger that dies, except for little kids.

 

[Erniedytn]

There are plenty of people on this site that i differ from and I have never been an ass to them. At least not to the ones intelligent enough to read between the lines. I'm an ass to people that are an ass to me. I fight fire with fire. The guy in this thread did not have anything useful to say so I responded in kind.


So now you believe in most of the Us and Them conspiracies. lol. You'll, quite simply, just never understand. There is no us and them, only US. I see through the real bullshit, but I do not search for shit that aint there. You're right, I couldn't give a rat's ass for JFK. I wasn't even born. In fact I couldn't give a rats ass about any stranger that dies, except for little kids.

He was just throwing out some info for others to look at. He did not direct the post at you, ergo you are an asshole for your response saying that you don't need to research shit. Just because the information was not useful to you, does not mean that others aren't interested. Not every post is for Mr. Skunkushybrid.

I don't know about "us and them", but I do know that the US government is full of shit 99.9% of the time. I also know that even if no one on Earth gives a rats ass about JFK, the reasons he was killed are the more important matter.

I also notice that you have no response to the evidence presented by me on the 9/11 and JFK conspiracies (other than you don't give a rats ass about people dying).

 

[skunkushybrid]

He was just throwing out some info for others to look at. He did not direct the post at you, ergo you are an asshole for your response saying that you don't need to research shit. Just because the information was not useful to you, does not mean that others aren't interested. Not every post is for Mr. Skunkushybrid.

See, that's where you are wrong. I didn't say i don't need to research shit. i said i don't need to look anything up. In his post he suggested that the fucking READER do some research. as it happened I was one of the readers. So you're saying that because I felt that I don't need to look into some shit that I shouldn't mention it? Well, you know what you can do...

I don't know about "us and them", but I do know that the US government is full of shit 99.9% of the time. I also know that even if no one on Earth gives a rats ass about JFK, the reasons he was killed are the more important matter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blahdy-fucking-blah

I also notice that you have no response to the evidence presented by me on the 9/11 and JFK conspiracies (other than you don't give a rats ass about people dying).

Because I've been through it all before on this site. except JFK, I have no interest in that whatsoever. Maybe you should ask Mulder and Scully.

 

[Erniedytn]

Because I've been through it all before on this site. except JFK, I have no interest in that whatsoever. Maybe you should ask Mulder and Scully.

Thats what I thought

 

[skunkushybrid]

Thats what I thought

Really? Surely an occurence worth note.

 

[Erniedytn]

You have no interest because you don't have a fucking clue. Thats why you stoop to ignorant comments. It's just like you said:

I do have very little patience with people that change tact in a conversation, when they run out of things to say and say something juvenile.

 

[NO GROW]

Well I just watched the whole video and regardless of what you believe it will definately make you look at 9/11 differantly...Nice link

 

[TheConstantGardner]

"a government scientist" is the exact people that you cannot believe! They work for the government! Do you believe everything the government tells you? Just like those piles of WMD that Saddam had too right?

This way of looking at things is skewed. If I believe one government scientist I have to believe them all? That would be like saying if you believe in one conspiracy theory, you have to believe the rest of the whacked out ones. What I do believe in is history. There was a huge nuclear scare. We made nuclear weapons. Other countries made nuclear weapons. We had previously used an atomic weapon with great results. Everybody else wanted that kind of power. We didn't have so many satellites to spy with. This technology (atmospheric sound channel monitoring) allowed us to keep tabs our neighbors' nuclear testing. We were also testing nuclear technology. Can you guess where??? If you guessed NM, you get the cookie! Would we want Russia knowing what we were up to?

I agree that there was more to 9/11 than what was presented to us. I, nor the UN, nor any US inspector found any WMDs in Iraq. It didn't matter really. GWB wanted to invade Iraq. So he did. If he wanted to invade Idaho he would have. And probably would have if they had very much oil.

 

[Erniedytn]

This way of looking at things is skewed. If I believe one government scientist I have to believe them all? That would be like saying if you believe in one conspiracy theory, you have to believe the rest of the whacked out ones. What I do believe in is history. There was a huge nuclear scare. We made nuclear weapons. Other countries made nuclear weapons. We had previously used an atomic weapon with great results. Everybody else wanted that kind of power. We didn't have so many satellites to spy with. This technology (atmospheric sound channel monitoring) allowed us to keep tabs our neighbors' nuclear testing. We were also testing nuclear technology. Can you guess where??? If you guessed NM, you get the cookie! Would we want Russia knowing what we were up to?

I see what you are saying here, and I completely agree. The Cold War was indeed the reason for such secrecy back then regarding anything Military. We did not want Russia to find out anything, nor did they want us to. Now, stop and think outside the box for a minute. IF a UFO did crash near there, don't you think we would immediately cover that up as well? IF we could harvest alien technology, would we have wanted the soviets to find out about it? I don't think so. We would have done exactly what happened; cover it up, lie to the public, and reap the rewards of being able to reverse engineer alien technology, and use it to bully everybody.

Regarding what scientist to believe, I look at it like this: On one side you have this government scientist who claims it was a radar ballon or whatever, on the other side, you have this ex-government scientist that says it was an alien ship, and we did harvest the technology. Now we know that the government doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to honesty, so why the hell should we believe anything they have to say at this point?

 

[TheConstantGardner]

I see what you are saying here, and I completely agree. The Cold War was indeed the reason for such secrecy back then regarding anything Military. We did not want Russia to find out anything, nor did they want us to. Now, stop and think outside the box for a minute. IF a UFO did crash near there, don't you think we would immediately cover that up as well? IF we could harvest alien technology, would we have wanted the soviets to find out about it? I don't think so. We would have done exactly what happened; cover it up, lie to the public, and reap the rewards of being able to reverse engineer alien technology, and use it to bully everybody.

Regarding what scientist to believe, I look at it like this: On one side you have this government scientist who claims it was a radar ballon or whatever, on the other side, you have this ex-government scientist that says it was an alien ship, and we did harvest the technology. Now we know that the government doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to honesty, so why the hell should we believe anything they have to say at this point?

All good points. My only concern is the one scientist who claimed it was a balloon had nothing to gain. The one who claimed it was a UFO had fame and notoriety to gain.

If an alien space craft were to crash land, I'm sure the government would cover it up in much the same way.

I'm playing the odds with the most likely scenario. Roswell is where they built experimental aircraft and performed weapons tests in secret. These things have to be tested and it's more likely that one of them crashed. I find it unlikely that if a non-partial intelligent being were to crash it would be at such a site.

I do find reports of UFOs fascinating, especially the more credible ones. Even ancient recordings of events that resemble UFO encounters greatly interest me. It almost seems as if they've been using our planet as a rest stop for at least the last 6,000+ years. The only thing that baffles me is the vast distance between our planet and the nearest possible life supporting star/planetary system. They would have to break the laws of physics as we know them to cover such a distance. If they had, and we had reverse engineered their technology, would be still be using such incredibly inefficient things as rockets for propulsion? There are a lot of puzzles involved in this, and we're missing all the corner pieces so to say.

I've enjoyed this conversation, but don't think I'm narrow minded please. I just believe that the simplest explanation is usually the most likely.

 

[Erniedytn]

All good points. My only concern is the one scientist who claimed it was a balloon had nothing to gain. The one who claimed it was a UFO had fame and notoriety to gain.

If an alien space craft were to crash land, I'm sure the government would cover it up in much the same way.

I'm playing the odds with the most likely scenario. Roswell is where they built experimental aircraft and performed weapons tests in secret. These things have to be tested and it's more likely that one of them crashed. I find it unlikely that if a non-partial intelligent being were to crash it would be at such a site.

Maybe the one scientist that that made the balloon claim had EVERYTHING to LOSE. Maybe the reason that they crashed so close to a military base is because they were watching us. And maybe, just maybe the reason that they test secret military aircraft in that area is because thats where they made the discovery of the millennium.

I do find reports of UFOs fascinating, especially the more credible ones. Even ancient recordings of events that resemble UFO encounters greatly interest me. It almost seems as if they've been using our planet as a rest stop for at least the last 6,000+ years. The only thing that baffles me is the vast distance between our planet and the nearest possible life supporting star/planetary system. They would have to break the laws of physics as we know them to cover such a distance. If they had, and we had reverse engineered their technology, would be still be using such incredibly inefficient things as rockets for propulsion? There are a lot of puzzles involved in this, and we're missing all the corner pieces so to say.

I've enjoyed this conversation, but don't think I'm narrow minded please. I just believe that the simplest explanation is usually the most likely.

You should check out some of the links I posted in the Aliens thread.

Sorry about the "narrow minded" comment.....I judged you too quickley

 

[skunkushybrid]

You have no interest because you don't have a fucking clue. Thats why you stoop to ignorant comments. It's just like you said:

I'm not interested in your bullshit conspiracy theories. This means I have no fucking clue? Know what a dick is?

LOL, you fucking fruitcakes are all the same.

 

[fishindog]

wow skunk seems to me like u always have to be right, if ur not interested in anything in this forum shut the fuck up and quit arguing with everyone that is actually tryin to discuss this stuff....u r just being a pest and pissin everyone off....so go find a topic that u can actually have a normal discussion about and quit actin like ur 12....and go smoke some more of your shwag...prob all you can afford

 

[skunkushybrid]

wow skunk seems to me like u always have to be right, if ur not interested in anything in this forum shut the fuck up and quit arguing with everyone that is actually tryin to discuss this stuff....u r just being a pest and pissin everyone off....so go find a topic that u can actually have a normal discussion about and quit actin like ur 12....and go smoke some more of your shwag...prob all you can afford

Everybody? I count two. If you don't like what I have to say there is a very simple (so you should manage fine) solution. Ignore it.

 

[skunkushybrid]

I don't need to search anything. Conspiracy theories are always full of shit, and they are doctored or engineered to make you believe what the author(s) want.

k well then y the hell r u in this discussion if u know EVERYTHING then????

Boo-fucking-hoo moron.

Ok. Here's where all this kicked off. You whinging little bitches. You need to stop bum fucking each other and get a FUCKING GRIP.

 

[fishindog]

there u go again...let it go n shut the fuck up