Do boveda packs affect smell or taste?
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GroBud
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Weed drops below 55% humidity that's what breaks weed down losing terpenes and cannabinoids lol curing is the preservation. Trichomes are gonna fall off regardless better to preserve than deteriorate. Now if you dont grow enough where you smoke everything between grows that can be different I guess.
As mentioned cannabis cup winners I've seen have had a 6 month cure, that's what I'm gunning for, for my personal day to day smoke that good
As mentioned cannabis cup winners I've seen have had a 6 month cure, that's what I'm gunning for, for my personal day to day smoke that good
CaliRootz88
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My last harvest was my best to date and the first I’ve cured without boveda packs. My buds are a little dryer than when using the packs but the taste is smooth and the smells are intact without. I personally don’t believe boveda packs affect the final product. If you feel like your product is falling short on taste and smell I think the likely hood is how you grew it, dried it, and cured it. I will say storing your buds in 60-70F is crucial to preserve terps and freshness. Not just for drying.
Paranoidandroid42
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I use them when I buy in Michigan and bring it back home and jar the really dry stuff to rehydrate a little from crumble.
Bad part it will cause a musty flavor if you don't burp the jar good enough daily and you MUST stir the bud. But that musty taste was in 1 type of bud and it might of just been the flavor of smoke, I think motorhead or something named similar. It has a really heavy fuel taste.
Other then that one time and leaving them too long in a jar, i love using them.
TeW33zy
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No it damages them. The packs add a mono layer of distilled water over the terpenes with prevents volatilization which some volatility is great, it sells the product. However, those packs hault volatility about 95% which is devastating, it's to much and makes the product hard to sell. You find yourself having to explain to ea potential buyer why the smell is not there. In 2023, customers want terps + THC.
Boveda packs are over engineered and have to much ingeniouty which hault volatility by 95% which is excessive and over kill for terpenes. Many terpenes never recover from being sealed within the trichrome for to long or to harshly bound.
Boveda packs also add a mono layer of distilled water over the flavornoids as well as the terpenes which is why customers issue non-conformances for smell and taste. The quality is greatly diminished.
HydroKid239
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I've tested the theory myself. After 3 months, the bud with the pack in the jar seemed more fresh than the other, yet both are from the same harvest.
The other jar without the pack dropped in humidity by 12% over the 90 day period. Bud wasn't brittle, but it was dry & crunchy compared to the boveda jar. I let the buds sit out of the jar for 10 mins before I broke into them by hand.
During storage the jars were 3/4 full, and kept in 55-60 degree temps (Basement closet) Dark & left alone.
I'm also convinced bud density plays its roll in this test, as well as jar capacity filled. I don't expect anyone to have the same exact experience, but we'll be on the same page I believe.
lusidghost
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I get mad when I buy a bottle of alcohol because I can't smell the alcohol until I open the bottle. This is devastating and makes it hard to sell shots.
PadawanWarrior
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I've been experimenting with Boveda's for years. So far I would say it's better if you can leave the packs out, especially for long term storage. It's not a bad thing for making sure your buds are at the right RH for storage, but I think if you use them it's best to remove them as soon as you can if you want to store They sent me a Boveda Challenge Kit and it's sweet, but I haven't used it. I was gonna do my test in Mason jars so I could monitor RH, and did. But a couple week cure isn't something I would judge by. Still stoked I got some sick CVaults and shit. I haven't made my final diagnosis, but so far I'm leaning towards no Boveda.
For anyone interested in the science behind the packs.
The package is made out of a material that allows water vapour to go out but liquid water to stay inside.
Inside is a mixture of a specific salt and water with enough salt to stay partially undissolved at the bottom. If you have an oversaturated solution there is a characteristic humidity over it. If you add moisture by adding 'wet' flowers the solution absorbs it, a bit of salt dissolves and the equilibrium stays the same. Conversely, if moisture is removed by 'dry' weed the solution evaporates and a bit of salt crashes out of solution.
Which specific humidity value establishes itself over the solution depends on the specific salt that is used. Table salt is different than calcium nitrate etc.
This allows you to replenish the packs. If they become rock hard put them in a jar with wet weed or other source of moisture after a while its wet again and can be used as normal.
The package is made out of a material that allows water vapour to go out but liquid water to stay inside.
Inside is a mixture of a specific salt and water with enough salt to stay partially undissolved at the bottom. If you have an oversaturated solution there is a characteristic humidity over it. If you add moisture by adding 'wet' flowers the solution absorbs it, a bit of salt dissolves and the equilibrium stays the same. Conversely, if moisture is removed by 'dry' weed the solution evaporates and a bit of salt crashes out of solution.
Which specific humidity value establishes itself over the solution depends on the specific salt that is used. Table salt is different than calcium nitrate etc.
This allows you to replenish the packs. If they become rock hard put them in a jar with wet weed or other source of moisture after a while its wet again and can be used as normal.
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Over the decades, I and my fellow smokers have tried all the ways of preservation, freezing, rehydrating with wet paper towels or bananna peals, multiple zip locks, mason jars, but the Bovedas were a game changer! I have 3 year old jars of Royal Kush that still have a strong and outstanding aroma! More than 95% of the "fresh" stuff in the Oklahoma dispensaries. Ideally you have a special humidor room, like the wealthy cigar smokers maintain. As you said, it will dry out eventually without an external source of moisture.
TeW33zy
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The point of sending me those videos as if I dont know what they are.
Week4@inCharge
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Some strains just get better after a nice long cure ( like wine) and Boveda is the best (and cost effective) item to monitor that in your jars, set it and forget it.
TeW33zy
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Absolutely nobody cares about that, that is obvious. Nobody asked if it can preserve, we not idiots we know that. We said the mono layer of purified water it adds in the trichrome to bind the terpenes underneath it locks it so food thar u loose your smell and alters your flavor. Our Lab at Biotek Engineering under a strict statistical study shows it. Boveda personel says on their Yt page once you break open the bud to smoke it the terpenes will break out of the mono layer of purified water and the aroma or terpenes will present itself but in our study it showed this is not true 73% of the time. In 27 of our 30 test samples across 30 different parameters it took the terpenes 16 hours to break out the mono layer of purified water. We found it took 16 hours and it didn't break out, the bud dried and evaporated the mono later of purified water and only then was the terpenes able to escape and reveal itself. Being bound behind the mono layer of purified water and salt the flavor had changed, it somehow affected the flavornoids found within the capitate-sessile, capitate-stalked, and bulbous trichromes. Boveda responded to me "Sr. Engineer btw" when I confronted them with data and they admitted that the taste is altered by the salt but the high isn't which is technically correct. However, the Flavornoids and Terpenes were altered for the worst and Boveda said that's the intent to preserve the high. Therefore we will never use those things again. It destroyed our smell and taste.
They sure do!
HydroKid239
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Billy the Mountain
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Math is not your strong suit, raises some questions about the methodology
lusidghost
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Just trust his findings that preserving pot is actually destroying it. You want the volatiles floating around in the jar, not locked up in the bud. Think of a mono layer of water as a prison, and your poor bud was falsely accused of being dank. Now it's forced into being someone's bitch and tossing their salad in the back of a cell instead of being a productive member of society. Is that really what you want?