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DIY-HP-LED

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China wants to piggyback on Russia for the North Pole resources. They want Russia as a vassal state, No need to care for the civilians or keep up the infrastructure, only take what they need. Also with an "independent Russia" it can be used as a thorn in the US's side.
True, but I think northern and eastern Asia will break into several states based on current administrative lines, like South America. There are a mix of autonomous republics and administrative districts, a real dog's breakfast, but they do have legislatures and powers, kinda like the original 13 American states facing down another far away empire, one that could be made much more distant and weaker by taking out some rail bridges in the middle of nowhere. Russia might end up being west of the Urals and could break up like the old Soviet Union did, only this time finishing the job.
 

printer

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They may, but recent events have given Xi pause and presented unexpected opportunities in central Asia and in the future disintegrating Russian empire. Xi will be gone and policy could change, right now and for the next almost decade Tiawan chip production is just too important to everybody, including China. These facilities would be destroyed by war and the valuable staff dislocated to chip fabs springing up in NA and the EU. As long as the world is dependent on advanced Taiwanese microchips, they will be a vital national security concern for many countries and attacking Taiwan would mean instant war with more than America.

Perhaps if the imperial ambition persists in a decade and diplomatic conditions are right, but it is hard for China's neighbors not to arm and ally with each other and us, if the Chinese act like lawless pricks run by a whimsical emperor. Imperial ambitions are rapidly going out of fashion in the world and many former imperial colonies are beginning to realize this when it comes to Russia and China. When imperialism is explained to them along with the UN charter, because living under European Imperialism at one time doesn't appear to be enough for them. They should be able to recognize it when they see it, particularly India and oppose it.
But that is it, Taiwan never ceded from China. It was part of the greater China and the losing side went there. Why do you think the US has never gone against the One China political stance?

What Is the U.S. “One China” Policy, and Why Does it Matter?
When the United States moved to recognize the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and de-recognize the Republic of China (ROC) in 1979, the United States stated that the government of the People’s Republic of China was “the sole legal Government of China.” Sole, meaning the PRC was and is the only China, with no consideration of the ROC as a separate sovereign entity.

The United States did not, however, give in to Chinese demands that it recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan (which is the name preferred by the United States since it opted to de-recognize the ROC). Instead, Washington acknowledged the Chinese position that Taiwan was part of China. For geopolitical reasons, both the United States and the PRC were willing to go forward with diplomatic recognition despite their differences on this matter. When China attempted to change the Chinese text from the original acknowledge to recognize, Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher told a Senate hearing questioner, “[W]e regard the English text as being the binding text. We regard the word ‘acknowledge’ as being the word that is determinative for the U.S.” In the August 17, 1982, U.S.-China Communique, the United States went one step further, stating that it had no intention of pursuing a policy of “two Chinas” or “one China, one Taiwan.”


To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China. Thus, the United States maintains formal relations with the PRC and has unofficial relations with Taiwan. The “one China” policy has subsequently been reaffirmed by every new incoming U.S. administration. The existence of this understanding has enabled the preservation of stability in the Taiwan Strait, allowing both Taiwan and mainland China to pursue their extraordinary political and socioeconomic transitions in relative peace.

A lot more good reading there.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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But that is it, Taiwan never ceded from China. It was part of the greater China and the losing side went there. Why do you think the US has never gone against the One China political stance?

What Is the U.S. “One China” Policy, and Why Does it Matter?
When the United States moved to recognize the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and de-recognize the Republic of China (ROC) in 1979, the United States stated that the government of the People’s Republic of China was “the sole legal Government of China.” Sole, meaning the PRC was and is the only China, with no consideration of the ROC as a separate sovereign entity.

The United States did not, however, give in to Chinese demands that it recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan (which is the name preferred by the United States since it opted to de-recognize the ROC). Instead, Washington acknowledged the Chinese position that Taiwan was part of China. For geopolitical reasons, both the United States and the PRC were willing to go forward with diplomatic recognition despite their differences on this matter. When China attempted to change the Chinese text from the original acknowledge to recognize, Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher told a Senate hearing questioner, “[W]e regard the English text as being the binding text. We regard the word ‘acknowledge’ as being the word that is determinative for the U.S.” In the August 17, 1982, U.S.-China Communique, the United States went one step further, stating that it had no intention of pursuing a policy of “two Chinas” or “one China, one Taiwan.”


To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China. Thus, the United States maintains formal relations with the PRC and has unofficial relations with Taiwan. The “one China” policy has subsequently been reaffirmed by every new incoming U.S. administration. The existence of this understanding has enabled the preservation of stability in the Taiwan Strait, allowing both Taiwan and mainland China to pursue their extraordinary political and socioeconomic transitions in relative peace.

A lot more good reading there.
The bottom line is it is up to the population living there according to the UN charter and this fits that situation perfectly, a historic empire seeking to reassert control over a former territory. Another bottom line is if the government of China weren't a bunch of anti-democratic authoritarian assholes, the people of Taiwan might want to unify with them. Until then you'll have better luck convincing Canadians that we should join with the USA, like Belarus is doing with Russia!
 

printer

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The bottom line is it is up to the population living there according to the UN charter and this fits that situation perfectly, a historic empire seeking to reassert control over a former territory. Another bottom line is if the government of China weren't a bunch of anti-democratic authoritarian assholes, the people of Taiwan might want to unify with them. Until then you'll have better luck convincing Canadians that we should join with the USA, like Belarus is doing with Russia!
"Does China have veto power in the UN?


The Security Council has five permanent members—the United States, China, France, Russia, and the United Kingdom—collectively known as the P5. Any one of them can veto a resolution."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"Does China have veto power in the UN?


The Security Council has five permanent members—the United States, China, France, Russia, and the United Kingdom—collectively known as the P5. Any one of them can veto a resolution."
I realize that, but they still have to deal with the charter and they depend on the international system of trade and law. Speaking of law, Trump just got indicted in NY!
 

BudmanTX

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looks like the ROC in UA are just a little pissed......the head of the OC gave the green light to the UA government to take over the the churches and the monestaries there......


yeah they're kinda cursing Zel, meanwhile:::

while they're bitching, one of the idiots decided to steal from one of the monestaries


keep in mind the ROC is basically the KGB undercover, they've been caught speading propaganda, pedo, guns, hiding russians. Get them out and let the real OC come in....
 

printer

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looks like the ROC in UA are just a little pissed......the head of the OC gave the green light to the UA government to take over the the churches and the monestaries there......


yeah they're kinda cursing Zel, meanwhile:::

while they're bitching, one of the idiots decided to steal from one of the monestaries


keep in mind the ROC is basically the KGB undercover, they've been caught speading propaganda, pedo, guns, hiding russians. Get them out and let the real OC come in....
Maybe someone else put that in my luggage. I had no idea.
 

printer

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Turkish parliament ratifies Finland’s NATO membership
Turkey’s parliament has approved a bill to allow Finland to join NATO, clearing the last major hurdle for Helsinki to join the defence alliance as war rages in Ukraine.

All 276 legislators present on Thursday voted in favour of Finland’s bid, days after Hungary’s parliament also endorsed Helsinki’s accession.
 

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US sanctions man accused of arms deal with North Korea and Russia
The United States has announced sanctions against a Slovakian man who was reportedly working to arrange a weapons sale between North Korea and Russia, as the war in Ukraine puts strain on Moscow’s access to military goods.

The US Department of the Treasury said on Thursday that it was imposing sanctions on Ashot Mkrtychev as part of its effort to constrain Russia’s ability to replace military equipment lost on the battlefield.

“Russia has lost over 9,000 pieces of heavy military equipment since the start of the war, and thanks in part to multilateral sanctions and export controls, Putin has become increasingly desperate to replace them,” said Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen in a news release.

“Schemes like the arms deal pursued by this individual show that Putin is turning to suppliers of last resort like Iran and the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea].”

Shortly after the sanctions were announced, the White House expressed concern that “North Korea will provide further support to Russia’s military operations against Ukraine”.

“We have new information that Russia is actively seeking to acquire additional munitions from North Korea,” national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters. Such a deal would violate United Nations Security Council resolutions, he added.

As Russia’s costly invasion of Ukraine has dragged on, the US has continued efforts to isolate Russia economically and diplomatically. However, Russia has benefited from continued relations with countries around the world who see it as an important ally and trading partner.

Yellen said the US would continue to crack down on Russia’s efforts to “evade sanctions and obtain military equipment” from countries like North Korea.

The news release states that Mkrtychev is a Slovakian national who negotiated with officials in Russian and North Korea to forge a relationship of “mutually beneficial cooperation”.

From 2022 to early 2023, the Treasury says that Mkrtychev arranged for North Korean officials to furnish “over two dozen kinds of weapons and munitions for Russia”. In exchange, he worked to have commercial aircraft, raw materials and commodities delivered to North Korea.

North Korea is itself under heavy US sanctions, which can impact its ability to access various goods. The news release states that Mkrtychev’s negotiations were confirmed with senior Russian officials, indicating that “preparations for a proposed deal were complete”.

Thursday’s sanctions freeze any US-based assets held by the person designated and generally bar people in the US from having business dealings with them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I find it hard to believe emperor Xi would approve, but the south Koreans shouldn't mind, maybe the Russians will feed them better and if they get captured...

Imported cannon fodder, they ran out of convicts now it's slaves.


50,000 North Korean commandos prepare to join Russia’s war in Ukraine
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Bakhmut has turned into a ‘slaughter-fest for the Russians,’ top US general says

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Russia's Wagner mercenary group is "suffering an enormous amount of casualties in the Bakhmut area," Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told US lawmakers, describing the battle for the eastern city as a “slaughter-fest" for the Russians. CNN’s Salma Abdelaziz and David McKenzie report.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I find it hard to believe emperor Xi would approve, but the south Koreans shouldn't mind, maybe the Russians will feed them better and if they get captured...

Imported cannon fodder, they ran out of convicts now it's slaves.


50,000 North Korean commandos prepare to join Russia’s war in Ukraine
doesn't this kind of make it fair for NATO to send in 50,000 troops to help out the Ukrainians?....
i guess if the north koreans want to come die, the Ukrainians can oblige them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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doesn't this kind of make it fair for NATO to send in 50,000 troops to help out the Ukrainians?....
Naw, just slaughter them with MLRS or those rocket bombs that can go the distance, as they get off the trains. It's a long haul from North Korea by trans-Siberian rail 50K is a lot to move with their logistics and equipment and they have never done anything like this before. Expect South Korea to supply more equipment and large amounts of 155mm artillery shells, they have lots of those apparently and plenty of other goodies too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like the North Korean slaves will join the Russian slave army of slavs!


They die for free: Russian army does not pay compensation to its troops

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Soldiers are detained for not following orders. Wages payments are delayed or not paid at all. Some units don't even have basic material supplies and food. The situation in the Russian army is gross: the tactics of 'meat waves' lead to large losses, and the occupiers are not properly trained before being sent to Ukraine. Hear the details – in the report.
 

CCGNZ

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China could cause another war for Russia after they are weakened enough, by making Kazakhstan strong and a leader for the other stans south of it, most are rich in gas and oil with minerals too and growing populations and all are former Soviet Republics. Uncle Sam is reaching from the west across the Caspian Sea and China is right next door and they should meet on the shores of the Caspian Sea. Russia will be excluded and there are ethnic Russians in the north of Kazakhstan, remnants of the empire who will cause trouble. Fortunately, many of Vlad's empire loyalists are dying in Ukraine in very large numbers, while even more become disillusioned and cast adrift. There will be minimal support for their cause from Moscow as they try to survive and keep the empire intact.

If China wanted the eastern half of Russia cut off from the European half, there are many ethnic groups and perhaps people in the regions who might want to do the same and shift their center of gravity to their end of Asia. If Vlad has trouble in east Asia, it will temper his ambitions in the west, keep him busy trying to keep the empire together I say. There are groups fighting for Ukraine from those areas and I'm sure they would prove useful to someone who wants to cause shit inside the empire. All they would need would be money and motivation, bribes can buy them everything they need including a truckload of military explosive from the local base after bribing a mobik.
Who'd have thought a little more than 13 months ago that Putins 1 week Soviet steamroller style flattening of Ukraine would unleash the multi faceted geo-political jujitsu that is now being played ou tw/all the players jostling for their interests and all the potential scenarios that may unfold,the sediment has been disturbed and it'll be a long time for the water to clear,possibly a decade.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Sweden does not border Russia and is in no rush now, if Russia attacks Finland the point will be moot and Sweden will be all in on Finland's side anyway, but if Russia attacks Finland a NATO member, Sweden will be the least of their worries. Russia will be in no position to attack anybody for a very long time after the Ukrainians are done with them anyway, so they can chill for a decade.


Finland Finally Joins NATO... Without Sweden
 
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