Lucky Luke
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The vast majority of wars end up concluding on the negotiating table are they not?If someone breaks into your house and moves into a bedroom and claims ownership, what type of negotiations would you be up for?....
The vast majority of wars end up concluding on the negotiating table are they not?If someone breaks into your house and moves into a bedroom and claims ownership, what type of negotiations would you be up for?....
trump and putler were very much counting on the US leaving NATO.Lets be frank NATO is the US...If the US leaves NATO is kinda shit. US pretty much rules the NATO.
so what would you concede to get your bedroom back?...The vast majority of wars end up concluding on the negotiating table are they not?
Russia's attack against Ukraine was all speculation until Feb 24th, 2022 - but people in the intelligence community warned is was going to happen.Thats just speculation. Russia attacking a Nato country is probably far fetched and would bring a war into Russian territory.
Its been an ongoing war since 2014.Russia's attack against Ukraine was all speculation until Feb 24th, 2022 - but people in the intelligence community warned is was going to happen.
Looking at the bigger picture, would you be shocked if Russia went after a NATO country at the same time China goes after Taiwan? There's more than one chess piece on the board to look at.
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Some might say Russia is trying to get its bedroom back. Borders and rulers have changed back and forth lots of times.so what would you concede to get your bedroom back?...
the war hasn't been going on at this scale since 2014. They haven't had a war like this in Europe since WW2.Its been an ongoing war since 2014.
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yep it only blew up to a war of this scale when America had withdrawn from Afghanistan and decided to take an interest and use NATO. Despite Ukraine not being in NATO.the war hasn't been going on at this scale since 2014. They haven't had a war like this in Europe since WW2.
Yeah and Mexico wants California back. I suggest we concede texas to them but they said hell no...Some might say Russia is trying to get its bedroom back. Borders and rulers have changed back and forth lots of times.
List of wars involving Ukraine - Wikipedia
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Mexico want Cali back. The Native Americans want America back. The Hawaiians want their islands back. Japan wants its islands back, Ireland want its island back, China wants Taiwan back, Korea wants Korea back. Australian Aborigines want Australia back. Argentina wants the Falklands back. Palestine wants Palestine back. I'm sure we could come to a hundred countries who want their land back..Yeah and Mexico wants California back. I suggest we concede texas to them but they said hell no...
So Muscovy better forgo their claim to ancient borders and leave...because they still think they own Finland, Poland, and Germany too....Mexico want Cali back. The Native Indians want America back. The Hawaiians want their islands back. Japan wants its islands back, Ireland want its island back, China wants Taiwan back, Korea wants Korea back. Australian Aborigines want Australia back. Argentina wants the Falklands back. Palestine wants Palestine back. I'm sure we could come to a hundred countries who want their land back..
Humans and invisible lines on a map.
Their are lots of countries who laid claim to lots of Europe. You dont think that Germany or France for that matter has given up on its desire to rule all of Europe?So Muscovy better forgo their claim to ancient borders and leave...because they still think they own Finland, Poland, and Germany too....
Kiev was the first Capitol of Russia....so Moscow shouldn't control Russia....Kiev should control RussiaTheir are lots of countries who laid claim to lots of Europe. You dont think that Germany has given up on its desire to rule all of Europe?
Whats a few hundred years to European wars and borders?
Americans like Australians have such a short history.
But a Capital city is just a city- its not a country.Kiev was the first Capitol of Russia....so Moscow shouldn't control Russia....Kiev should control Russia
FFS, are you being obtuse on purpose? I am specifically referring to the large scale war that started in 2022, you know the one that NATO is fully supporting Ukraine with, the one this thread is about?Its been an ongoing war since 2014.
2014–present Russo-Ukrainian War:
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In Donbas:
List of wars involving Ukraine - Wikipedia
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If only Ukraine would just give up to Russia, so many lives saved.yep it only blew up to a war of this scale when America had withdrawn from Afghanistan and decided to take an interest and use NATO. Despite Ukraine not being in NATO.
I would suggest that maybe many more lives on both sides have been lost due to that decision along with much more destruction.
Optuse? Not at all its been a long war with many stages. History and context matter.FFS, are you being obtuse on purpose? I am specifically referring to the large scale war that started in 2022, you know the one that NATO is fully supporting Ukraine with, the one this thread is about?
You keep referring to America, you do realise that NATO is more than just America, right?
Putting words in my mouth.If only Ukraine would just give up to Russia, so many lives saved.
Awesome take.....
It certainly did save many American lives. And if American hadn't defeated Japan, Australia would be just another island in the Japanese empire..Go read the grave stones at Iwo Jima or Guadalcanal, you won't see many Australians names..Putting words in my mouth.
People and lives matter. When ya dead ya dead.
Wasn't dropping two nuclear bombs on Japan sold to the world as saving many lives? PR matters.