HGCC
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No, the schizophrenia link stuff didn't really come up much as an issue. Maybe since legalization was eased into with the medical aspect. Personally I am curious how the legalization of hallucinogens goes in that regard.Does the schizo argument ever come up in NA from those who opposed legalization? By now quite a few years ago British scientists published the results of research into a link between schizophrenia and the consumption of cannabis. Politicians throughout europe have been cherrypicking that report since. The only thing it proved is a correlation between schizophrenia and cannabis use, no causation the other way around. That is, they specifically looked at cannabis use among schizophrenics, not schizophrenia among cannabis users.
Nipped in the Bud: Germany To Push Ahead With Limited Legalization of Cannabis
The coalition government in Berlin had big plans to legalize the possession and sale of cannabis in Germany. But the government was never as enthusiastic about the issue as it let on, and the plans it unveiled on Wednesday are very limited in scope compared to legalization efforts in the United...www.spiegel.de
"Wissing [Transport minister] holds a skeptical view of the substance. Confidentially, he talks about judgments he had to make as a judge before his political career. He dealt with some cases involving patients with paranoid schizophrenia. They had often consumed cannabis on a large scale; and it was Wissing, as the judge, who had to order that they be placed in hold in a psychiatric facility."
Again he goes from schizos use cannabis to cannabis users become schizophrenic. The reason his opinion weighs heavy is because it's all about transport, specifically across borders. As I mentioned a few months ago when they delayed their ambitious plans the first time, they assume it's not going to happen yet and the EU will not allow it. (2004 treaty, eu member states are required to fight drug trafficking including cannabis)
"On Wednesday, Health Minister Karl Lauterbach unveiled what he described as a "two-prong" model for gradually legalize possession of cannabis in Germany. Speaking together with Agriculture Minister Cem Özdemir of the Green Party, he announced the following steps:
For the time being, though, it appears that the complete legalization of the drug has been taken off the table in Germany."
- The initial cultivation and distribution of the drug would be made possible in special associations called "cannabis clubs," where the purchase of a maximum of 25 grams would be permitted, with a monthly maximum per person of 50 grams.
- Private cultivation would be allowed of up to three plants.
- In a second step, sales through licensed specialist stores would be tested in pilot regions.
That's 3 more plants than we're allowed to grow though. Another issue that's not tackled with a unified approach; the number of plants mean nothing, it doesn't take into account the space, the light, the veg time, or even whether it's male or female.
It's almost funny how some European countries are struggling with the issue. For decades they complained about the dutch (non-)solution (keep the grows and supply illegal and show EU+UN we're still fighting the war on drugs, but decriminalize shops and customers). Others, like Germany, have looked at Barcelona and its cannabis social clubs for inspiration but unlike Germany, so far anyway, concluded it doesn't address a major issue: tourists can't join a club yet the more easily available cannabis means there will be plenty of it to buy on the streets. A major contributor to the idea of social cannabis clubs in Barcelona is the fact they didn't want it "to become Amsterdam". Now Germany, aimed for full legalization (though heavily regulated) and now does the same, for partly the same wrong reasons. It'll take years before it's more normalized throughout Germany and they'll team up with NL and few others to finally legalize it throughout the EU.
Good for you guys, the personal cultivation thing is big to me just from a hobby type standpoint. Like brewing your own beer, it's a fun hobby to grow your own dope. If prices are up around 500 CAD then it would be a much bigger deal.
Unfortunately I meant 3 more plants in Germany than the zero we‘re allowed in NL. Judges rarely convict people even if they have up to a hundred but that still leaves insane claims from the IRS and often getting kicked out of your home even mortgage cancelled. For decades it used to be 5 plants (hence the typical 10 regular seeds or 5 fem per pack). Cops would kill them but no lasting consequences.
