How do you outdoor growers do it?

bguwop420

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It's a battle. It's easier to keep them off than to than to get rid of them. What kind of bugs?
Leaf hoppers but now I hit it with DE 2 hours ago and ain't seen any bugs since on the leaves, I guess since I watered this morning and the DE got inactive that they swarmed my plants..now it's all good tho. Also trimmed off 2 big lower fan leaves that were damaged somebody said that helped their leaf miner problem..but yea leaf miners and leaf hoppers but I think on starting to get it under control
 

bguwop420

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Man, OP is stressing over everything - no need! I use nursey pots I spraypainted flat white and it typically is over 100 dg here most of the summer, they love it! Not sure why rain worries you unless it's strong enough to break the plants. And for outdoors 3 gallon pots are too small, you want at least 10 gallon minimum or you'll be rootbound with small unhealthy plants
Can't they still flower in 3 gallon? If transplanted mid veg? And the rain bothers me cuz I feel like if they aren't sitting underneath the sky that they aren't growing or getting photosynthesis :D:lol:
 

ooof-da

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If it helps just imagine they are tomatoes. My tomatoes don’t do quite as well when I don’t water them or feed them properly. Weed is kinda the same. It will produce bud almost no matter how shitty we treat them (within reason) but don’t expect bushels of hugh red tomatoes if you don’t give them what the need. Rain, wind, and other factors are just part of outdoor growing no matter what you grow. It’s a passion or it’s a pain in the ass.
 

DancesWithWeeds

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since I watered this morning and the DE got inactive that they swarmed my plants
DE doesn't go inactive. The only reasons for the water and spraying is to give coverage and so you don't breath it. It's the dust, the white residue that happens when your spray dries. If you see more than just a slight dusting it's probably too much.

You have to use something to keep the leaf hoppers off. Poison doesn't work becausethey have to take a bite. Yellow sticky pads helps keep them off. The DE is abrasive on their little suckers and they might choose to move on.
 

bguwop420

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DE doesn't go inactive. The only reasons for the water and spraying is to give coverage and so you don't breath it. It's the dust, the white residue that happens when your spray dries. If you see more than just a slight dusting it's probably too much.

You have to use something to keep the leaf hoppers off. Poison doesn't work becausethey have to take a bite. Yellow sticky pads helps keep them off. The DE is abrasive on their little suckers and they might choose to move on.
I've caught loads of those leaf hoppers on sticky pads they just keep comin lmao but look what I just found on my pot during the storm..hopefully more come
 

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DMChiz

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I've caught loads of those leaf hoppers on sticky pads they just keep comin lmao but look what I just found on my pot during the storm..hopefully more come
That’s a ladybug best I can tell. The other photo is hard to decipher but doesn’t look like leaf hoppers to me. They tend to be a little more brightly coloured and vibrant. Though could just be the photo. I get ‘em all the time, just have to shoo them away as best you can. I have to chase squirrels out of the grow bags every bloody morning. Obnoxious, but thems the breaks outdoors
 

bguwop420

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That’s a ladybug best I can tell. The other photo is hard to decipher but doesn’t look like leaf hoppers to me. They tend to be a little more brightly coloured and vibrant. Though could just be the photo. I get ‘em all the time, just have to shoo them away as best you can. I have to chase squirrels out of the grow bags every bloody morning. Obnoxious, but thems the breaks outdoors
Right that's what I'm saying all the ones online look colorful with designs on their backs and I keep finding these same exact ones all tan all look the same I wonder if they might be beneficial I doubt it tho
 

bguwop420

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Is that my best bet since I can't spray into flower ? To try to build them up as strong as I can until flower ? Then i guess it'd be up to ladybugs and nematodes if there's anymore bug problems
 

bguwop420

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I have 3 outdoor plants, one was in a plastic pot that I sat on the grass and 2 fabric pots that sat on elevators...after transplanting n watering the one out of the plastic pot today I had to put it on one of the elevators.

Is my oldest plant sitting directly on grass gonna become a problem? For bugs maybe?..i got a milk crate I can use for now til I get a new elevator.. my bad for all the questions but just want to make sure
 

lizzit

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Noobie question: Isn’t a lot of the potency in weed coming from oils? Washing the weed = washing away bird poop, bugs, dirt, highest high?
Washing removes dust, dirt. The biggest thing that washing does is remove loads of the terps. Meaning it will smell and taste less. And yes you may loose some buzz as terps do affect your high but unless your using ice water or shaking your bud vigorously you won't loose any trichs. Countless people wash there smoke and see an oily film on the water and are like see it was dirty. Bullshit if all you see when you wash your bud is an oily film on the water all your doing is washing away your terps. As for washing because of foliar spray. You shouldn't have to, you don't foliar feed during flower so there should be no residue on your flowers.
 

lizzit

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UPDATE
Took the bottom fan leaves off cuz I read it sends more energy to the tops, 2nd plant is doing hella good with only a few leaf miner marks ...first spraying of dead bud brew tonight
Is that diatomaceous on your soil and leaves? Be careful on adding it to your soil. It absorbs and holds water. If too much gets into the top layer of soil it becomes hard as shit to water. Not to mention diatomaceous sucks ass. Yes it will kill bugs but only after they eat the shit out of your plants. Have used it many times and it's not a quick killer. By the time the buggers infesting your plants die they have already eaten half your crop. :P
 

go go kid

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UPDATE
Took the bottom fan leaves off cuz I read it sends more energy to the tops, 2nd plant is doing hella good with only a few leaf miner marks ...first spraying of dead bud brew tonight
if your takeing off the solar panels from your plant, how can it send more energy to your plant, when it now has less energy coz you took the power panels off it?

you should ask first, then do. your growing outdoors, so reduceing the foliation isnt nessesary. you want as much healthy power cells photosynthasysing as possable
 

natureboygrower

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Your bud does not sit in rain water. You can call Bullshit on it all you want but it's a fact. And yes I have. See those rainbow oils on the water top? That's your terps.
My bud also doesnt sit in a bucket of water. It's a quick swish then out. Unless you have some backing, it's not fact. Post em up
 

bguwop420

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Is that diatomaceous on your soil and leaves? Be careful on adding it to your soil. It absorbs and holds water. If too much gets into the top layer of soil it becomes hard as shit to water. Not to mention diatomaceous sucks ass. Yes it will kill bugs but only after they eat the shit out of your plants. Have used it many times and it's not a quick killer. By the time the buggers infesting your plants die they have already eaten half your crop. :P
Yea DE ..What do you use for bugs
 

bguwop420

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Will it be all good? As it pulls toward the sun ? Also as I was transplanting some of the old soil fell out when I turned it upside down, everything that's apart of the root should have still stayed put right?
 

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