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DIY-HP-LED

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Wow.....i didn't know the new defense minister is a Muslim Tartar......

From his business background he is better suited to root out corruption and that appears to be the main concern, the generals fight the war, he just makes sure they have what they need to do the job. The other guy was a war fighter, not a corruption fighter, he didn't have the skills and experience this guy has for that particular task, a lot of accounting and auditing are involved. Ukraine has a wartime coalition government with liberals and conservatives filling the roles of ministers. The UK did it during the war, parliamentary politics was suspended, and Churchill led an all-party coalition government, his deputy prime minister was the labor leader and Zelenskyy's prime minister is a conservative.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If this is anywhere close to true... Modern intelligence reports should be largely confirmed with video footage from the ground and drones backing up commanders reports along with satellite and other data obtained from the enemy by electronic means and prisoners.

A big increase in Russian dead and artillery pieces destroyed along with other pieces of ground equipment, it indicates movement to me, getting through most of the Russian defenses and mine fields then encountering reserve forces on open ground in the Russian rear or from captured defenses. The war is entering a mobile phase I think where armored maneuver, training, communications and superior tactics will play a bigger role. Russian artillery is getting hammered, and those boys must be getting gun shy. Project artillery losses ahead for a month or back a bit and you'll come close to 1000 Russian guns lost a month, according to these figures. As soon as they fire a round at the Ukrainians, the counterbattery radars linked to the highly accurate 155mm guns swat them while the drones watch overhead to make sure they are dead or correct fire until they are.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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More munitions and aid as Joe and the allies enter the terminal phase of destroying Vlad's remaining army and equipment before driving them from Ukraine in a catastrophic defeat. Vlad was sucked in thinking he could win, and that Joe was afraid of his nuclear threats, he gave it all he had and was fought to a standstill while his army was worn away in stupid futile attacks. Now that they are weaker than ever and much of their equipment has been destroyed and their experienced troops killed, now that morale is at rock bottom and Wagner removed from the field is the time to strike and strike hard. Time to trap a lot of his army in the south and cut off Crimea, ripening it for attack too, perhaps next year by bombing the shit out of it all winter with drones and perhaps F16s.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
If this is anywhere close to true... Modern intelligence reports should be largely confirmed with video footage from the ground and drones backing up commanders reports along with satellite and other data obtained from the enemy by electronic means and prisoners.

A big increase in Russian dead and artillery pieces destroyed along with other pieces of ground equipment, it indicates movement to me, getting through most of the Russian defenses and mine fields then encountering reserve forces on open ground in the Russian rear or from captured defenses. The war is entering a mobile phase I think where armored maneuver, training, communications and superior tactics will play a bigger role. Russian artillery is getting hammered, and those boys must be getting gun shy. Project artillery losses ahead for a month or back a bit and you'll come close to 1000 Russian guns lost a month, according to these figures. As soon as they fire a round at the Ukrainians, the counterbattery radars linked to the highly accurate 155mm guns swat them while the drones watch overhead to make sure they are dead or correct fire until they are.

yes but mines.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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yes but mines.

I'll bet all the recently laid ones were geolocated down to centimeter range by UAV drones as they were buried by the Russians and entered into a GIS system. The further they go the fewer the mines, the Russians need to move behind their lines too, though they will carpet the likely paths of the Ukrainian advance with mines if they can but are in artillery range trying to lay them under the surveillance of high flying long range UAVs. They obviously have developed tactics for dealing with mines while slaughtering the Russian artillery trying to stop them with counter battery radar. They turned mine clearing into a trap for Russian artillery because of counter battery radars, UAVs and superior artillery range and accuracy. This has been reflected in the number of artillery pieces destroyed since they changed tactics in the beginning of the offensive.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I'll bet all the recently laid ones were geolocated down to centimeter range by UAV drones as they were buried by the Russians and entered into a GIS system. The further they go the fewer the mines, the Russians need to move behind their lines too, though they will carpet the likely paths of the Ukrainian advance with mines if they can but are in artillery range trying to lay them under the surveillance of high flying long range UAVs. They obviously have developed tactics for dealing with mines while slaughtering the Russian artillery trying to stop them with counter battery radar. They turned mine clearing into a trap for Russian artillery because counter battery radars, UAVs and superior artillery range and accuracy. This has been reflected in the number of artillery pieces destroyed since they changed tactics in the beginning of the offensive.
Were that the case, the Ukrainians would be advancing faster than the Russians could bury them. I don’t think that’s happening.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Were that the case, the Ukrainians would be advancing faster than the Russians could bury them. I don’t think that’s happening.
I didn't say they were, but those laying them would be out in the open and choice artillery or drone targets, if they could reach them. However other higher flying military drones are in the air monitoring the advance path 24/7 and they can locate things on the ground with great accuracy and plot the GPS coordinates too. I imagine today all this data is entered into a GIS system and database to give as complete a picture of the battlefield as possible. It is one thing to collect massive amounts of data, another to make sense of it all and use it in a timely manner to make a difference.
 

printer

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I didn't say they were, but those laying them would be out in the open and choice artillery or drone targets, if they could reach them. However other higher flying military drones are in the air monitoring the advance path 24/7 and they can locate things on the ground with great accuracy and plot the GPS coordinates too. I imagine today all this data is entered into a GIS system and database to give as complete a picture of the battlefield as possible. It is one thing to collect massive amounts of data, another to make sense of it all and use it in a timely manner to make a difference.
All told, you might be 20 years before your time.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I didn't say they were, but those laying them would be out in the open and choice artillery or drone targets, if they could reach them. However other higher flying military drones are in the air monitoring the advance path 24/7 and they can locate things on the ground with great accuracy and plot the GPS coordinates too. I imagine today all this data is entered into a GIS system and database to give as complete a picture of the battlefield as possible. It is one thing to collect massive amounts of data, another to make sense of it all and use it in a timely manner to make a difference.
I’d bet all the recently laid ones were geolocated down to the centimeter
Think about it. Drones could drop a marker on every geolocated mine. One truck with a .50 could put one round in each mine, and done.

Or, follow-on drones could lay a coupla kg of high explosive on each mine site for remote detonation. Even done-r!

But it isn’t happening like that.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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All told, you might be 20 years before your time.
We don't know what they are capable of, but I do know military intelligence did some amazing things decades ago and we have powerful computers and networks these days and lots of data to shove into the system. Military grade UAV drones can plot things on the ground with great accuracy and provide GPS coordinates for each one from recorded data. It would be logical to focus such efforts in the area of planned advance, weeks or months ahead of the attack.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Think about it. Drones could drop a marker on every geolocated mine. One truck with a .50 could put one round in each mine, and done.

But it isn’t happening like that.
The info is more likely used with conventional methods to dig them up and disarm them or blow them up in place or mine plow of flail them into detonation. Knowing the areas that aren't mined is more important IMO, but the point is it makes clearing them easier and they have gone through them faster than the Russian thought they could. My only point here is they have the technology to do this kind of stuff available. Most cities have every telephone pole, manhole cover fire hydrant and storm drain plotted on a GIS system, they are quite common and have been for decades.
 

cannabineer

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But that does not stop you thinking things up to the closest centimetre. :o
His military spirit animal must have been in the Air Force. They are the only branch of the service who have not had the force-degrading effect of adverse conditions pounded into them.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
… or mine plow of flail
the article I posted? The Russians have defeated that method by stacking pairs of mines. The resulting shock damages the vehicle bearing the blade or flail.

I would reallyreally not want to be tasked with exhuming active antiarmor mines.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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But that does not stop you thinking things up to the closest centimetre. :o
When I say centimeter range, I mean around 100 centimeters up to 300cm (about a foot), close enough for government work and to locate a mine! Depending on if they are using encrypted military grade GPS, but even regular commercial GPS has improved accuracy with a dozen or more satellites being received by most systems these days.
 
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