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Something I never really thought of.


Russia does not have to settle the war, it is their best interest to keep it going. Not only to drum up nationalism (which is what they are using in Ukraine to call them Nazi's) but as long as the conflict is ongoing Ukraine can not enter Nato.

Always fun.

 
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BudmanTX

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Something I never really thought of.


Russia does not have to settle the war, it is their best interest to keep it going. Not only to drum up nationalism (which is what they are using in Ukraine to call them Nazi's) but as long as the conflict is ongoing Ukraine can not enter Nato.

Always fun.

Plans within plans my friend.....and Putin is waiting on our elections as well here.....so if Biden wins, Putin is screwed.....
 

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Russians' support of Ukraine war collapses, finds poll
Support for the Ukraine war in Russia has hit rock bottom, according to a recent poll.

The independent pollster Chronicle found that the number of Russians who fully support the invasion has almost halved since February 2023.

Their survey revealed those who favour peace far outnumber pro-war voices, with more Russians supporting the departure of the country's troops from Ukraine than not.

Discussing the findings, the Insitute for the Study of War (ISW) said on Friday the Kremlin was "likely concerned" about how changing attitudes towards the war could affect the 2024 Russian presidential election.

The US-based think tank claimed Vladimir Putin will centre his re-election campaign on "Russia’s alleged domestic stability and increased criticism of the West instead of focusing on the war."

Conducting polls in authoritarian states, like Russia, is notoriously difficult. The Kremlin has criminalised criticism of the war and spends millions on pro-war propaganda, meaning they may not reflect the realities of the situation.

Chronicles, founded by Russian opposition politician Aleksei Miniailo, says its surveys offer an accurate snapshot of public opinion, however.

The Moscow-based research group asked 1,199 adults across Russia a series of questions in a phone poll between 17 and 22 October.

It found the number of core war supporters - those who express "consistent" approval of the war and want the invasion to continue until it has achieved its goals - fell from 22% in February 2023 to 12% in October.

Chronicles' survey revealed that 40% of Russians support the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine without war aims being achieved. This number has remained consistent throughout 2023.

Thirty-three per cent were against exiting Ukraine and wanted the war to continue, though this number has steadily fallen from 47% in February to 39% in July.

One reason why support for the war is falling could be that Russians are increasingly feeling the pinch and seeing a more gloomy future due to the fallout from the invasion, as a separate survey has shown.

Polling by Chronicle echoed this, finding that 44% of respondents have experienced a decrease in family income.

Putin announced a significant increase in military spending this week, with about 30% of the country's budget directed toward the armed forces in 2024.

The survey also showed how the situation was impacting peoples' lives.

More than half of the Russian population (52%) recently faced anxiety or depression, u from around a third (32%) in March 2022.

Those on lower incomes were more likely to report negative mental effects.

Putin signs decree boosting Russia's troop numbers by 15 percent
Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on Friday boosting troop numbers by 15 percent, in a move the army said was due to "threats" associated with the Ukraine offensive.

The move comes as both Ukraine and Russia seek to gain ground and replenish their ranks in the conflict, whose front lines have barely moved in recent months.

"The increase in the full-time strength of the army is due to growing threats to our country linked with the special military operation and the continuing expansion of NATO," the army said.

It said the number of serving army soldiers would increase by some 170,000 people, and that this was an "adequate" response to the "aggressive activity of the NATO bloc".

It added that it did not plan changes to conscription or another mobilisation drive – an unpopular measure that caused an exodus of men out of Russia last year.

Instead, the army has in recent months turned to recruitment drives, promising attractive financial rewards, especially in far-flung regions.

But Kremlin critics say this amounts to a "hidden" mobilisation, and that men have continued to be sporadically drafted into the army.

"Worried? Me?"
 

cannabineer

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It sounds like it’s not getting any easier for the Ukrainians. Of especial concern is flagging support from the West while Gaza upstages the grind in eastern Europe.

It seems to me that Iran (who goaded Hamas into that big initial attack) did Russia a solid by diluting the aid headed to Ukraine. The Iranians should not be underestimated, especially once they have nukes. They already have the missiles for them.

 

OldMedUser

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It sounds like it’s not getting any easier for the Ukrainians. Of especial concern is flagging support from the West while Gaza upstages the grind in eastern Europe.

It seems to me that Iran (who goaded Hamas into that big initial attack) did Russia a solid by diluting the aid headed to Ukraine. The Iranians should not be underestimated, especially once they have nukes. They already have the missiles for them.

It's like the war in Ukraine has dropped off the map. Very little on any of the news sources I watch but dominated by the war going on in Gaza and the West Bank. Soldiers and heavily armed Israeli citizens are now trying to evict everyone from the West Bank under the radar where Hamas doesn't have a foothold and plans are already drawn up to incorporate it all into Israel.

Looks like genocide to me.

:peace:
 

cannabineer

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On one hand, this maybe shows that the Russians are dipping into inventory closer to the back wall of the warehouses.

On the other, it shows how starved the press are for general intelligence for how the war is progressing. They only have anecdote like this to feed their customers.

In today’s lightning-fast and pervasive news climate, the information vacuum is remarkable imo. How much of it is unwillingness to give data to the enemy vs. peremptory censorship, I cannot guess.

 

BudmanTX

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On one hand, this maybe shows that the Russians are dipping into inventory closer to the back wall of the warehouses.

On the other, it shows how starved the press are for general intelligence for how the war is progressing. They only have anecdote like this to feed their customers.

In today’s lightning-fast and pervasive news climate, the information vacuum is remarkable imo. How much of it is unwillingness to give data to the enemy vs. peremptory censorship, I cannot guess.

from what i've been reading Russia have dipped into the ol timey reserves, few report ago showed them pull T55 and T54 tanks out, these are old, pre cold war old.....
 

BudmanTX

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It's like the war in Ukraine has dropped off the map.



:peace:
that's what putin wants, simply get your eyes off of Ukraine and what they did there. The alliance of Russia/Iran started this Gaza crisis, to split funding like Israel really needs funding...js

Most people need to realize that Hamas and Palestinian are actually 2 seperate things....some palestinian have cast down Hamas and want them out along with Islamic Jihad, i for one would like to see both of those organization gone, simly cause of what they've done to the palestinian people. Hamas is not a political entity...it's an Islamic Ideology
 

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White House warns it will run out of money for Ukraine unless Congress acts by end of year
The White House sounded the alarm Monday that it will run out of money to provide weapons to Ukraine in its fight against Russia without congressional action by the end of the year.

In a letter to congressional leaders, Office of Management and Budget Director Shalanda Young wrote the government is “out of money—and nearly out of time” to continue giving aid to Ukraine. The White House pleaded with Congress to act on a supplemental funding request first submitted in October, arguing it is of critical importance to U.S. national security.

“I want to be clear: without congressional action, by the end of the year we will run out of resources to procure more weapons and equipment for Ukraine and to provide equipment from U.S. military stocks. There is no magical pot of funding available to meet this moment. We are out of money—and nearly out of time,” Young wrote.

“We are out of money to support Ukraine in this fight. This isn’t a next year problem,” she added. “The time to help a democratic Ukraine fight against Russian aggression is right now. It is time for Congress to act.”
The letter was addressed to Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Young laid out in detail how the government has already run through the roughly $111 billion previously appropriated for Ukraine aid.
The Pentagon had used 97 percent of the $62.3 billion it received as of mid-November, Young wrote. The State Department has used all of the $4.7 billion in military assistance it received, which included funds for humanitarian assistance and economic and civilian security assistance.
Young warned a failure to provide additional funding and support would “kneecap Ukraine on the battlefield, not only putting at risk the gains Ukraine has made, but increasing the likelihood of Russian military victories.”

Young wrote that roughly 60 percent of the money approved to support Ukraine has bolstered the U.S. defense industrial base, which has benefited domestic companies as America manufactures additional weaponry for the Ukrainians and fills its own stockpiles.
By approving the White House’s supplemental request, Young wrote, Congress would direct another $50 billion into the nation’s defense industrial base.
The White House in late October sent an emergency funding request of roughly $100 billion to Congress seeking additional money for border security, allies in the Indo-Pacific and for Israel and Ukraine in their respective conflicts against Hamas and Russia.

Roughly $61 billion of that request covered money for Ukraine, which included $30 billion in equipment for Ukraine from Department of Defense stocks and to backfill those stocks.
The White House has for weeks pleaded with Congress to take action on its supplemental request, arguing that a failure to do so would jeopardize Ukraine’s progress in its fight against Russia, particularly heading into the difficult winter months.
President Biden has made the case to the American public that Ukraine’s fight has ramifications domestically. He has asserted that while the conflict may seem far away, a Russian victory would have grave consequences for democracies worldwide and could ultimately draw the United States into a larger conflict.

The White House has run into opposition in the Republican-controlled House, where some lawmakers are skeptical of continued aid to Ukraine.
Johnson, who won the Speaker’s gavel around the same time the White House submitted its funding request, said last week he is confident Ukraine and Israel funding will pass the House. But he has said the two should be handled separately, and that he supports a Ukraine measure that includes changes to U.S. border policy.

“Ukraine is another priority. Of course, we can’t allow [Russia President] Vladimir Putin to march through Europe. And we understand the necessity of assisting there,” Johnson said. “What we’ve said is that if there is to be additional assistance to Ukraine — which most members of Congress believe is important — we have to also work on changing our own border policy.”
 

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Zelensky will brief senators Tuesday ahead of key vote on military aid
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will address senators at a classified briefing Tuesday via a secure video conference feed, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) announced.

Zelensky will brief senators on the state of the war in Ukraine and the need for another round of military aid a day before the Senate is scheduled to vote on proceeding to the legislative vehicle for a $106 billion emergency foreign aid package that includes more than $61 billion for Ukraine.

“The administration has invited President Zelensky to address senators … as part of our classified briefing tomorrow so we can hear directly from him precisely what’s at stake in this vote,” Schumer announced on the Senate floor. “I ask that all senators — all senators — attend this important briefing.”
Zelensky warned senators at a closed-door meeting in the Old Senate Chamber in September that Ukraine would lose its war with Russia without more aid from the United States.

Schumer filed cloture Monday evening on a motion to proceed to the shell bill that will carry the supplemental foreign aid package.
The final details of the package are still being worked out. It’s being held up by a disagreement between the two parties about adding immigration and asylum policy reforms to reduce the flow of migrants across the U.S.-Mexico border.
 

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it will be interesting to see what they can do with that neptune missile. and Aiivaka is a hard battle being fought, UA might loose it, if they do at what cost to he Russian....20 to 30k of troops??
I caught an interview and the two Ukrainians that surrendered north of Aiivaka (who were then executed while being filmed) were said to have been mowing down wave after wave of Russians trying to take the tree line they were in at Stepove. The Russians could not take the position until the two ran out of ammunition. A couple of weeks ago one of the mappers was saying Aiivaka was going to fall whether it will take a month or two. There is just too little distance between the only paved road out of the town and the Russians. No idea how hard it will freeze there but the winter might help Ukraine if the farmer roads are frozen enough to get supplies in and out without the loss of equipment. Russia has seemed to have topped up the tank in terms of the number of recruits they are using. Both sides are throwing in green soldiers, in the Bakhmut area the Ukrainians have said the ratio is 5:1. Russia has been making minor gains all along the front, no regard for the costs.
 

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Feeling nervous about flying?

Putin arrives in Middle East flanked by Russian fighter jets
Flanked by fighter jets, Russian President Vladimir Putin touched down in the United Arab Emirates on Wednesday in the first part of his trip to the Middle East, where he will also travel to Saudi Arabia. Putin landed at Abu Dhabi International Airport in the U.A.E. under protection from four Su-35 Russian fighter jets, which flanked the president’s plane for the entire flight, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.

The fighter jets painted the skies over Dubai with the colors of the Russian flag, according to Russian state-run media outlet TASS.
Putin was seen smiling as he walked down the ramp of his plane and was greeted by U.A.E. official in footage released by the Kremlin.
Putin has already concluded a one-on-one meeting with U.A.E. President Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, according to the Kremlin.
The two were expected to discuss the Israeli-Hamas war, the war in Ukraine and their shared economic interests as major oil-producing nations.
Putin is now headed to Riyadh, where he will meet later on Wednesday with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in the capitol of Riyadh.
Putin last traveled to the U.A.E. and Saudi Arabia in 2019.

His visit to the Middle East is in defiance to an International Criminal Court (ICC) warrant, which seeks his arrest for the deportation of Ukrainian children from Ukraine. Putin skipped a major economic meeting in South Africa earlier this year over concerns he may have been arrested there.
Neither the U.A.E. or Saudi Arabia are party to the ICC.

Before Wednesday, Putin’s only international trips since the warrant was issued were to Kyrgyzstan, a former Soviet Republic, and China.
Putin’s trip shows one way in which U.S. and western allies have failed to completely isolate the Russian leader for his war in Ukraine almost two years after its start.
 
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