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McConnell expects Senate to take up Ukraine-border security package next week
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) told reporters Wednesday that he expects the Senate to consider a bipartisan deal on Ukraine funding and border security next week.

McConnell noted that Democrats control the Senate agenda, but he stated his confidence that negotiators will unveil a deal on border security in the next few days.

“My assumption is we’re likely to be on that in the Senate next week,” he announced.

GOP leaders say the remaining sticking point is a disagreement over President Biden’s authority to parole migrants encountered at the southern border into the country.

McConnell, however, argued that Republican lawmakers shouldn’t miss the opportunity to pass a package to address national security threats and reform the nation’s asylum laws and the administration’s expulsion authority.

“This is a unique opportunity to accomplish something in divided government that wouldn’t be there under unified government,” he said.

He argued that even if Republicans took control of the White House, Senate and House after the 2024 election, they would likely not be able to pass border security reforms because Democrats would block them in the Senate, where most legislation needs 60 votes to pass.

The GOP leader acknowledged that the Biden administration and Senate Democrats will need to cede more ground on the parole issue but sounded confident the two sides would eventually hammer out a compromise.

“We’re hoping to get a credible border package,” he said, adding: “I anticipate that will be before us next week.”

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) echoed McConnell’s confidence in reaching a deal soon, announcing Wednesday: “We are closer than we have ever been.”

“For the first time, I’m optimistic. For the first time, I think the chances of getting it done in the Senate are greater than not getting it done,” he said. “This is good news.”

Schumer said Senate Democrats gave their lead negotiator, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), “a large round of applause” for bringing the package to the cusp of getting done.

“Passing the supplemental is one of the hardest things the Senate has done in a long time but we got to finish the job,” he said. “Ukraine is already suffering from a lack of armaments and if Ukraine folds we’re going to be suffering the consequences, not for months, but for years to come.”

The package will include more than $60 billion in aid for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel and $14 billion to help secure the border and process migrants coming into the country.

McConnell acknowledged, however, that Senate Republicans aren’t sure whether any bipartisan deal could also pass the House, where Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is under constant pressure from conservative colleagues.

“I don’t know what the House will do. We’re working on trying to get a package out of the Senate that deals with national security and border security in a credible way,” he said Wednesday.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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All they need to do is supply them with "enough" for a defensive war, the Russians continue to attack and die. Their equipment is being pissed away, easy pickings for the Ukrainians who are waiting for Uncle Sam and the EU to come through for another spring push. Meanwhile long-range cruise missiles can do a lot to attack Russian C&C and disrupt their logistics. Winter is probably helping with the defensive war, cameras and drones viewed from warm bunkers for the defenders unless under direct attack. Less ammo and logistics are used when hunkering down in defense, something the Russians aren't doing.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
All they need to do is supply them with "enough" for a defensive war, the Russians continue to attack and die. Their equipment is being pissed away, easy pickings for the Ukrainians who are waiting for Uncle Sam and the EU to come through for another spring push. Meanwhile long-range cruise missiles can do a lot to attack Russian C&C and disrupt their logistics. Winter is probably helping with the defensive war, cameras and drones viewed from warm bunkers for the defenders unless under direct attack. Less ammo and logistics are used when hunkering down in defense, something the Russians aren't doing.
Is this the “just” thing Fogdog identified rearing its head again?

Supplying a war of attrition is very costly in both logistical and human terms. The West certainly has not closed ranks to do so.

There are only so many Ukrainians. Western aid needs not to fall into the trap of “just” keeping them going. Our various nations need to supply not only shells and missiles, but tech and expertise enough to freeze the Russian offensive in place, then roll back the front until all post-dissolution Russian annexation is undone.

With Russia, Iran and China getting a little sporty, this is looking somewhat like the ramp-up to a world war.
(Let’s hope it stays conventional.)

If so, the Nato members need to get on top of ordnance manufacture yesterday to service both the ongoing operations and be in a high state of readiness for a possible larger conflict.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Is this the “just” thing Fogdog identified rearing its head again?

Supplying a war of attrition is very costly in both logistical and human terms. The West certainly has not closed ranks to do so.

There are only so many Ukrainians. Western aid needs not to fall into the trap of “just” keeping them going. Our various nations need to supply not only shells and missiles, but tech and expertise enough to freeze the Russian offensive in place, then roll back the front until all post-dissolution Russian annexation is undone.

With Russia, Iran and China getting a little sporty, this is looking somewhat like the ramp-up to a world war.
(Let’s hope it stays conventional.)

If so, the Nato members need to get on top of ordnance manufacture yesterday to service both the ongoing operations and be in a high state of readiness for a possible larger conflict.
All they can do for now a defensive war of this type is much less costly than attacking and that appears to be what they are doing now. A war of attrition is more expensive if you are attacking which the Russians are. The Ukrainians still attack, but to take advantage of Russian screwups and are willing to trade ground for advantage.

As I said the Europeans and close allies just have to keep them going as in supplied until the cavalry arrives, on time this time we hope. Long range cruise missiles are part of that effort and a fight in Germany about the really long-range ones, these can fuck over the Russian efforts quite a bit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
All they can do for now a defensive war of this type is much less costly than attacking and that appears to be what they are doing now. A war of attrition is more expensive if you are attacking which the Russians are. The Ukrainians still attack, but to take advantage of Russian screwups and are willing to trade ground for advantage.

As I said the Europeans and close allies just have to keep them going as in supplied until the cavalry arrives, on time this time we hope. Long range cruise missiles are part of that effort and a fight in Germany about the really long-range ones, these can fuck over the Russian efforts quite a bit.
Define “the cavalry arrives”.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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speculative at best.
The EU funding seems firmer. If the republicans keep this shit up every couple of months, then leading into the election the democrats might call their bluff and it shuts down on the eve of election season. Since they only have an effective one seat majority the prospects are looking better

It seems easier to predict the demise of livestock farming than to divine the whims of the magats and generally insane.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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China’s Military Scandal: Why a Taiwan Invasion Might Have Just Become Impossible

Unveil the shocking truth about China's military corruption! Dive deep into leaked reports exposing missile malfunctions, widespread graft, and the potential fallout on global geopolitics. Don't miss this eye-opening Warographics special!
 

CCGNZ

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China’s Military Scandal: Why a Taiwan Invasion Might Have Just Become Impossible

Unveil the shocking truth about China's military corruption! Dive deep into leaked reports exposing missile malfunctions, widespread graft, and the potential fallout on global geopolitics. Don't miss this eye-opening Warographics special!
I've sen some derogatory things also,but in today's disinfo tunnel don't know WHAT to believe,could be a Chinese ruse or disinfo campaign?? What I do know is China (Mr. Xi) has cornered himself w/rhetoric/threats,amphib. operations are one of the MOST challenging military ops.,China's military lacks any recent experience,and Taiwan has just pressed his buttons w/the re-election of the DPP he loathes and spent time/$$ trying to unseat.Sure hope not,all info points to a intense/high attrition(personnel/ships/aircraft etc.) campaign,with many unpredictable scenarios up to and including possible nuke use,so we/them really don't need to go there IMO
 
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