converting from dirt to hydro. good idea?
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tommy gibbs
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if its 2 to 5 inches over a month and a half, i think you probably have bigger things to worry about
retuks
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brilliant...
any1 want to help me?
how are plants sapposed to be put in such brutal looking mediums in the first place? marbles dont retain water... and even harder question is, in a cup full of marbles how the hell do the roots find their way PAST them and accurately leak through the holes down into the reservoir??
there are always people who use the simplest cheapest ways and have great results. im just trying to gain the common knowledge of... how...
any1 want to help me?
how are plants sapposed to be put in such brutal looking mediums in the first place? marbles dont retain water... and even harder question is, in a cup full of marbles how the hell do the roots find their way PAST them and accurately leak through the holes down into the reservoir??
there are always people who use the simplest cheapest ways and have great results. im just trying to gain the common knowledge of... how...
TOKEMASTERFLEX
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sorry i had to actually work today otherwise i would have gotten back to you sooner.....after you get the plants roots cleaned just put them in your cups....honestly i dont know how well styrofoam is gonna work you need to atleast use plastic cups and drill holes that are a little smaller than the marbles...from the very bottom to half ways up the cup....then put in a few marbles.....then your plant...then gently pour in your marbles....roots are fragile but not that fragile....sometimes when they are in my buckets i have to take some out....so dont worry so much about the marbles crushing the roots....the roots will grow through the cracks between the marbles....youll be alright if you do this
TOKEMASTERFLEX
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i also think hydro will work out better for you...check out my dwc thread.....might have some ideas for ya
420weedman
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you need more cfls too 6500k is best for veg, if you look through my journal youll see my clf veg room 
retuks
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all that equipment seems so expensive. but ur basicly my savior right about now. lol
well i guess u could look at my dwc system as a kiddy system. i havent been making enough money for anything lately since i was laid off =(. getting by on fast food salad and chili right now...
anyway did u check out my dwc components i gathered thus far yet?
so far this is what i have toward my system:
1 Air pump
1 longass airstone
a small bin merely 1.3feet or so by 1.5feet. its in those pictures would that be enough for a small-scale system?
i can get plastic cups. and yikes yet again i am without a drill
. easiest way to punch holes?? and what vital parts am i missing so far? or better yet, is what i have usable? i also can only afford CFLs.
thanks tokemasterflex u explained it nice and clear to me.
EDIT: longass airstone... long ass. longass isnt a brand. lol
retuks
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looks like u out-budgeted me tooyou need more cfls too 6500k is best for veg, if you look through my journal youll see my clf veg room
. well gearwise.but i live in hawaii so i have no need for thermostats or the like. how much do 6500k cfls cost for you? would u mind telling me what brand they are (for easy find)?
thank you too.
TOKEMASTERFLEX
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take a screwdriver and get it really hot.....then just stab through the cup....itll take a long ass time unless you have a torch and stink but you can do it.......ive started like that before...........drill broke couldn't afford another one at the time so thats what i did...
if you dont have a screwdriver and torch you could use a butter knife and your stove top...just make lots of holes....wait for the plastic to cool down before you try and take out the stringy pieces they get hot...lol..
or you can buy neopream plugs from the grow store for like 38 cents apiece...then cut out holes in your lid start your hole out just barely smaller than the disc..use a razor blade for best results.....
if you dont have a screwdriver and torch you could use a butter knife and your stove top...just make lots of holes....wait for the plastic to cool down before you try and take out the stringy pieces they get hot...lol..or you can buy neopream plugs from the grow store for like 38 cents apiece...then cut out holes in your lid start your hole out just barely smaller than the disc..use a razor blade for best results.....
420weedman
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flowering side cost a bit more.
cfl side was like 60$ total to make hoods and pay for bulbs
bulbs - 7$ for 2 at walmart
brand doesnt matter, they just need to say 6500k or daylight
cfl side was like 60$ total to make hoods and pay for bulbs
bulbs - 7$ for 2 at walmart
brand doesnt matter, they just need to say 6500k or daylight
retuks
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i was just at the store and none of them say daylight. forgot to check the 6500k >_< and its flooding outside so no way in hell im walking back there. lolflowering side cost a bit more.
cfl side was like 60$ total to make hoods and pay for bulbs
bulbs - 7$ for 2 at walmart
brand doesnt matter, they just need to say 6500k or daylight
they all had "natural light" "energy saver" "eco friendly" "soft white" "cool white" and even "party night" whatever tf that is.
retuks
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one thing is that i cant find a grow store on this island >_< were swarming with MG tho X(take a screwdriver and get it really hot.....then just stab through the cup....itll take a long ass time unless you have a torch and stink but you can do it.......ive started like that before...........drill broke couldn't afford another one at the time so thats what i did...
or you can buy neopream plugs from the grow store for like 38 cents apiece...then cut out holes in your lid start your hole out just barely smaller than the disc..use a razor blade for best results.....
wow thats pretty clever. damn im gonna do that right now.
also... i dont have a lid idk what to use as a lid. some1 said styrofoam slab but idk where they sell those. maybe at acme..
420weedman
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the natural light one ... highest wattage they got
Stoney McFried
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Much, much more light.Those are warm whites you're using in the pic there.More light=more photosynthesis=more and faster growth.
There's higher wattage.The "K" is kelvin, or color temperature of the light.^500 k is "cool" or closer to the blue end of the spectrum, 2700k is "warm" or closer to red.Remember, blue before red.Blu=veg, red=flower.http://www.1000bulbs.com/Light_Bulbs/Incandescent_Light_Bulbs/300_Watt_Incandescents/300_Watt_CFL_Equivalents/9183/?&utm_source=Froogle&utm_medium=shopping+site&utm_campaign=Froogle+datafeed This next one is 3000k, but it's large, and close enough unless you want to get a bunch of small 2700k's.http://www.1000bulbs.com/85-Watt-Compact-Fluorescents/9182/
retuks
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i mean no disrespect, but thats the exact opposite of what others have said about kelvins
most people here are saying 6500k for veg, 2700k for flower. actualy my pic isnt a good representation of the lighting, its a camera phone pic. every time i take a pic of it its orangish but in reality its very whitemain thing is, i need to find 6500k and 2700k lights >_>
420weedman
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Stoney McFried
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That's what I said.Blue=6500k=veg, red=2700k=flower.
i mean no disrespect, but thats the exact opposite of what others have said about kelvins
retuks
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why only for flowering? do i use just one?yea.. except 20$ 150W HPS for flowering
also, i cant find hps anywhere either
