FLoJo
Well-Known Member
although i dont agree with some of what you say Vi, you make a great point here. they are working on a prehistoric system which has been outdated for a long time..And here we have the type of thinking that kept me out of unions all my working life. And ... this is exactly the type of thinking that is driving the Big Three out of business.
Nothing based upon productivity. Nothing based upon creating a profit. Nope ... its all about seniority. Hell yeah ... the longer one is on the job, the more one should make ... as long as the survival of the company isn't taken into consideration.
While were at it, let's base promotions on seniority too. That way, the Peter Principle will be in effect and the incompetent, with seniority, will be promoted over someone who has more talent and a better work ethic.
This way, labor can drive profit out of the equation and management can drive labor and the company out of business. And the taxpayer, along with his children, grand children and great grand children are supposed to pay for this crap? Where's the morality in all of this?
Chapter 11 bankruptcy and a renegotiated union contract is the only moral way to go.
Vi
now my question is other than cheaper labor, and progressive design, what are the asian car manufactures doing differenly that makes them so profitable? i mean hell toyota has some of the largest facilities in the country right now and they are doing fine