Mephisto Genetics

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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Grew out 2 frozen sunny Ds, soil only feed took 88 days, salt fed one i had to cut down at 65 due to mold probably had about 10 left to finish. Smoke on the first was good give it a solid B. First was a low light summer experiment so only produced a little over 2 oz. Second one filled 4 half gal mason jars and that was after i cut all nodes off the main stem so no big buds blocking up space(have not trimmed or wieghed yet) that would normaly represent 8-10 oz she took up about 1/4 of a 3x3 at about 240w if those numbers hold up thats about 3g a watt (210÷60) whitch would be insane for a guy that normaly dose about 1.2g/w. I kinda freaked out at first at the way they self canabalize but once your know they like to do that you chill out and are greatful for the light work on trim day. The whole top half of the flower branches gets compleatly covered so by chop day you have a small bush thats all flower, so much production out of such a small space demand. Give it a soild 4 out of 5 would reccomend
Whose genetics ? If that's Meph gear I must have missed seeing that. Sounds good tho. Ahhh, I just checked. Those were some of the limiteds. The Gelauto crosses. I've had a couple of the others. Mango Macaw, which had fat ass nugs but a little to Sativa for me and Iced N Baked x MBAP which was pretty fantastic.
 
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CarolinaPotheadsNew

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This just shows again how fast they've gotten these things to finish well and still be some strong stuff. I did have 2 of 4 ILGM GGautos finish in like 7 and 8 weeks but the other 2 were started 2 weeks before and still got a week and 2 to go. Man, if I'd had these kind of seeds when I was in college, it woulda been outta hand lol. Those Gelato crosses were fast as hell to finish.
 

VaSmile

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Whose genetics ? If that's Meph gear I must have missed seeing that. Sounds good tho. Ahhh, I just checked. Those were some of the limiteds. The Gelauto crosses. I've had a couple of the others. Mango Macaw, which had fat ass nugs but a little to Sativa for me and Iced N Baked x MBAP which was pretty fantastic.
Yeah they were tester packs. Grow store said tester pack and non tester packs are the same cost $50 either way standard packs got 3 seeds and tester get 6 seemed like a no-brainer to me
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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Yeah they were tester packs. Grow store said tester pack and non tester packs are the same cost $50 either way standard packs got 3 seeds and tester get 6 seemed like a no-brainer to me
Check the Mephisto web page. Often, they run deals where you can get a free 5pk with any seed order. I did an order back in the early spring where I ordered a 3pk of CDLC for $48 that had 5 seeds. They also sent a 5 pk of Mango Macaw plus 2 F1 of the month freebies. So I got 12 seeds for 50 couple dollars including shipping and tax. They tend to run specials like that a couple times a year. But from the grow store, that's not a bad deal.
 

Potted Meat

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Check the Mephisto web page. Often, they run deals where you can get a free 5pk with any seed order. I did an order back in the early spring where I ordered a 3pk of CDLC for $48 that had 5 seeds. They also sent a 5 pk of Mango Macaw plus 2 F1 of the month freebies. So I got 12 seeds for 50 couple dollars including shipping and tax. They tend to run specials like that a couple times a year. But from the grow store, that's not a bad deal.
New Appletizer strain just came out yesterday. Buy a 5 pack of the limited crosses, and get 5 more of their freebies (Bramley beast or Pink Rizzo), plus the regular freebies. $44.00 US for 12-13 seeds. Hard to beat Meph math.
I ordered the Apple of Eden (24 Carat x Appletizer). The 5 free crosses are valid until Sunday, Oct 27th, or until stock runs out.
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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New Appletizer strain just came out yesterday. Buy a 5 pack of the limited crosses, and get 5 more of their freebies (Bramley beast or Pink Rizzo), plus the regular freebies. $44.00 US for 12-13 seeds. Hard to beat Meph math.
I ordered the Apple of Eden (24 Carat x Appletizer). The 5 free crosses are valid until Sunday, Oct 27th, or until stock runs out.
Yep. This is exactly what I was referring to. They do offer some good deals when dropping a new line. For around $50 shipping and all you get 12 seeds with good pedigree. The 10+10 for $150+ shipping that ILGM offers seems awfully high after you see these deals. Especially with the quality Mephisto offers.
 

marzig

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I'll be running two CDLC soon. First time trying anything from Mephisto. I'm wondering what to expect on plant shape, height, and yield. I have a 2x4 tent with RDWC. I would appreciate advice on what type of training does everyone recommend or just let them do their own thing?
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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This one got stunted by the gnats and I started it in a 3g container which made things worse. Transplanted into 5g and got the gnats killed but it woulda been so much fatter. It's shape and smell is very much like the last couple I grew. It's a very forgiving strain. They grow some fat tight nugs. You won't be disappointed. Good luck!
 

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CarolinaPotheadsNew

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I found out that Mephisto is doing another Strain drop. I just ordered a 5pk of Apple of Eden. Since I have a new email than before they gave me a $5 coupon too lol. The deal is, order the Appletizer strain or some of the F1 crosses of it and you get a free 5pk of other Appletizer F1 crosses. Plus a Freebie or 2. This AoE strain is 24 karat x Appletizer so it's 85% indica. Just perfect for medicinal use. When they run these offers, there really aren't many out there selling beans that cheap. I haven't found anybody yet anyhow.
 

marzig

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I found out that Mephisto is doing another Strain drop. I just ordered a 5pk of Apple of Eden. Since I have a new email than before they gave me a $5 coupon too lol. The deal is, order the Appletizer strain or some of the F1 crosses of it and you get a free 5pk of other Appletizer F1 crosses. Plus a Freebie or 2. This AoE strain is 24 karat x Appletizer so it's 85% indica. Just perfect for medicinal use. When they run these offers, there really aren't many out there selling beans that cheap. I haven't found anybody yet anyhow.
I noticed that too this morning when looking for more info on CDLC. Are there a lot of pheno variations in F1 crosses?
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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I noticed that too this morning when looking for more info on CDLC. Are there a lot of pheno variations in F1 crosses?
I mean,,,yeah, they aren't as predictable as the F5-F7 plants from the Artisinals, but, they are crossing 2 well developed strains. I've had some minor pheno variation with their F1's , but, nothing like in the ILGM or Dutch Passion stuff I've ran. I will say that I haven't gotten any of their F1's that were just not worthy. They all were pretty damned good. The pheno variation is just enough to make things interesting plant to plant. Hell, if we want to totally protect against variation, we run cloned photos.
 

marzig

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I mean,,,yeah, they aren't as predictable as the F5-F7 plants from the Artisinals, but, they are crossing 2 well developed strains. I've had some minor pheno variation with their F1's , but, nothing like in the ILGM or Dutch Passion stuff I've ran. I will say that I haven't gotten any of their F1's that were just not worthy. They all were pretty damned good. The pheno variation is just enough to make things interesting plant to plant. Hell, if we want to totally protect against variation, we run cloned photos.
Thanks, that's what I was hoping to here. The most stable ILGM auto, that I've grown several times has been their GG4.
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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Thanks, that's what I was hoping to here. The most stable ILGM auto, that I've grown several times has been their GG4.
That ILGM GG4 auto is the 1 that I've had the most pheno drift with. Ive grown a 10+10 pk plus a 10 pk they sent me because i bitched about the pheno drift. Either you got lucky or I
was unlucky. ANY Mephisto strain you get will be more consistent and frankly, just better than the ILGM auto stuff. Im not saying the stuff was bad. Some was very good. They are just not in a position to do the pheno hunting autos require. Every Mephisto F1 comes from 2 well developed ( usually a couple f4+ ) and stable strains. I mean, honestly, these cheaper seeds have given me a lot of great stuff. Someone who's never grown their gear I'd steer towards the Artisinals because they're so predictable. But, if you're like me and just need as much good gear as a small amount of cash will buy then these are great.
 
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marzig

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That ILGM GG4 auto is the 1 that I've had the most pheno drift with. Either you got lucky or I
was unlucky.
I'm not usually particularly lucky. Maybe it was completely random that the 6 seeds I selected from a pack of twenty for 3 different grows were very similar. More likely I'm guessing mine probably came from a different breeder then what you got.
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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I'm not usually particularly lucky. Maybe it was completely random that the 6 seeds I selected from a pack of twenty for 3 different grows were very similar. More likely I'm guessing mine probably came from a different breeder then what you got.
Being that these big seed companies like ILGM,SEEDSMAN,RQS etc., use white lable Spanish breeders to produce their seeds then that is very likely. But, both the 20 seed bag plus the 10 seed replacement yielded similar results. Oh, well I'm not gonna bash ILGM today. I've been there before lol. I realize now that the big companies have a hard time producing the quality of product that the dedicated auto breeders do. They say it takes 5 years+ to stabilize a new strain. Most breeders don't care to pheno hunt through generations of hundreds of plants to find the ones that will make the product better. I'm wanting to try Night Owl. Daz has taken some of Mephistos work to another level. I want some I've just been too broke. I only managed this little order because of the free 5 pk plus 2 other freebies. You're going to be blown away at how good that CDLC turns out. In the RDWC setup, you could get some tennis ball sized nugs. The buzz is going to shock you too. I've only smoked better weed a few times.
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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Being that these big seed companies like ILGM,SEEDSMAN,RQS etc., use white lable Spanish breeders to produce their seeds then that is very likely. But, both the 20 seed bag plus the 10 seed replacement yielded similar results. Oh, well I'm not gonna bash ILGM today. I've been there before lol. I realize now that the big companies have a hard time producing the quality of product that the dedicated auto breeders do. They say it takes 5 years+ to stabilize a new strain. Most breeders don't care to pheno hunt through generations of hundreds of plants to find the ones that will make the product better. I'm wanting to try Night Owl. Daz has taken some of Mephistos work to another level. I want some I've just been too broke. I only managed this little order because of the free 5 pk plus 2 other freebies. You're going to be blown away at how good that CDLC turns out. In the RDWC setup, you could get some tennis ball sized nugs. The buzz is going to shock you too. I've only smoked better weed a few times.
Another drop? My goodness. Was Oreoz, do si delirium and now this appetiser!

Growing do si delirium atm, only young but sounds good!
It's perfect timing for me. These specials are what twists my arm to order lol. The wife told me Merry Christmas.
 

CarolinaPotheadsNew

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Was supposed to come Monday but got here early. I love Meph math! Both 5pks had 6 and I got 3 freebies. Bramley's Beast was my freebie Appletizer cross pk. That's Appletizer x MBAP. The Freebies are Hubbabubbasmelloscope x CDLC , so all these are big time Indica dominant. I started 4 seeds tonight.
 

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