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LED/T5 Veg, 400W HPS Flower SCOG Cabinet
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lilmafia513
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Good deal, i know winter has helped me keep my temps in line, except for the clone dome. Which by the way i lost an entire tray of clones. 10 PPP, and 10 White Widow. Followed your steps again, but did evrything under water this time, and got some heat mats. I think they'll make it this time.
Can't wait to see the harvest on your girls!!!!
Oh no!
You lost them all? Sorry to hear that.
The heater will help them root. Especially this time of year. I know my temps drop in the 60s now. They wont root when it is that cold. I read 75 is where you want to be and don't go over 85. That works great for me.
Be careful with those heat maps without thermostats they get pretty hot. I have to prop my tray above them about an inch to get the right temp. Putting a towel on top of the mat helps control the temp too.
I been at your grow journal but I didnt see any pics of your clones. If you would like to start a journal on the new cuttings and post pics I will be happy to give you my opinion on them. Maybe I can spot something.
You lost them all? Sorry to hear that.
The heater will help them root. Especially this time of year. I know my temps drop in the 60s now. They wont root when it is that cold. I read 75 is where you want to be and don't go over 85. That works great for me.
Be careful with those heat maps without thermostats they get pretty hot. I have to prop my tray above them about an inch to get the right temp. Putting a towel on top of the mat helps control the temp too.
I been at your grow journal but I didnt see any pics of your clones. If you would like to start a journal on the new cuttings and post pics I will be happy to give you my opinion on them. Maybe I can spot something.
lilmafia513
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https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/124405-my-cabinet-grow-journal-69.html
There ya go, that will take ya' right to it. This is how i have it set up now, with 4 WW and 4 PPP. Mat under a wire shelf to elevate tray above for air flow between. Temps stay between 75 and 80, and 90-100% humidity.
There ya go, that will take ya' right to it. This is how i have it set up now, with 4 WW and 4 PPP. Mat under a wire shelf to elevate tray above for air flow between. Temps stay between 75 and 80, and 90-100% humidity.
Where in the hell am I?
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Beautiful journal, bro!!! I plan on putin a lot of time into journal prep fer mine
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Better believe it!
Looks good man.
Keep those rooters warmer then ambient temps, spray the dome not the cuttings for humidity and when the rooters get a little light brown in color then water them with your solution. If you are using clonex it is safe to mix a gallon and drop a drop of super thrive in it. Lets get some roots this time man.
I'm Rootin for ya!
Well, while I am here I got a couple pics I took today with flash right before the light came on.
You can get a better idea of what we got this time around.
This is half way through week five of flower.
Left Side
Right Side
The light just started. Time to cut a few leaf.
We are not getting a lot of rain so the humidity hasnt become a problem.....yet.
The kids are working on there 7th node. I want to top them but I want to try to micro sex them as soon as possible and I am afraid topping them now will slow growth down a couple weeks.
I got a 30X jewelers glass and can see pretty good but I cant seem to get good enough pictures through it.
Is it a girl or a boy?
You can get a better idea of what we got this time around.
This is half way through week five of flower.
Left Side
Right Side
The light just started. Time to cut a few leaf.
We are not getting a lot of rain so the humidity hasnt become a problem.....yet.
The kids are working on there 7th node. I want to top them but I want to try to micro sex them as soon as possible and I am afraid topping them now will slow growth down a couple weeks.
I got a 30X jewelers glass and can see pretty good but I cant seem to get good enough pictures through it.
Is it a girl or a boy?
Where in the hell am I?
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Wouldnt you have known the sex by now? I am just past 1/2 way through week 4 (pics to come today), and hoping that in the next week more of mine fill out like yers have!!
lilmafia513
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LOL, he's talking about the babys!!
lilmafia513
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Ok, that was my problem. I was spraying the clones, and the dome. I see now, the excess moisture is what made the last batch rotten.
I don't use a solution for watering clones, always thought you were not suposed to use nutes with clones.
I use just the powder cloning stuff, and water with clean water. What should i use with it? I was thinking of getting some superthrive, but too scared to use it.
You know, I got confused too. It is seedlings that need water only. Seedlings have enough nutrients to grow for a couple weeks with just water.
Cuttings need juice to get roots in a week or so. Don't get me wrong, you can clone without them. I have dropped a cutting in a glass of water and it rooted. It took about a month but it rooted. No powder, no gel, nothing but tap water and set it on the windowsill. I propped the leaf up out of the water and just the stem in the water.
I have used the powder in the past with about 50% survival rate. I have used Olivias cloning gel and solution with about the same results. Once I got Clonex, forget about it. 100%
It was about $40 for both of them but I need something that will work every time or it will throw off the perpetual grow. I dont have an extra couple weeks and when I read it would root a popcical stick I went for it. I have used it on six different occasions and everything grew roots.
With this batch you already used the powder and do not have solution you want to keep them a little more wet than usual.
What I would recommend is to mix up about 700ppms of nutes.
I would mix one gallon. take my veg nutes and flower nutes and mix them 50/50 then add one drop of super thrive. no need to pH but use distilled or R/O
Pour some in a cup and dip the bottom of the clones that are in the net pots in it. watch the cube absorb the solution and try and get it wet up to where the bottom of the cutting is. you don't want the top of the cube wet, you want moist yes but not wet. By dipping them instead of feeding from the top you are forcing the roots to grow down, they follow the water.
You should have roots in 2 weeks.
Get the idea?
lilmafia513
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Got it, i did this once before dipping the net cups, and it worked pretty good. Makes sense.
Thanks Cruzer
OK,
Well, if you are using tap water then I would suggest you use 2 tea spoons of grow big (10ml) and three teaspoons of big bloom.(15ml) per gallon. If you have distilled you can double that. One drop of super thrive if you got it.
PPMs mean parts per million. it is a measurement of salts or nutrients in the water.
The mix above will get you to about 400ppm and tap water will probably have about 300 to start with. Thing is, you dont know what is in the water when you use tap. Distilled has zero. R/o starts at about 10 The lower the better cause you know what your plant is getting.
My Tap water is 330 ppms and ph of 7.0
You can pick up a cheap ppm meter on eBay for around $20
pH test meters are available too but the test kit you can get from a pool supply place (the liquid one, not strips) works fine and is cheap.
The more you know, the better they grow.
Well, if you are using tap water then I would suggest you use 2 tea spoons of grow big (10ml) and three teaspoons of big bloom.(15ml) per gallon. If you have distilled you can double that. One drop of super thrive if you got it.
PPMs mean parts per million. it is a measurement of salts or nutrients in the water.
The mix above will get you to about 400ppm and tap water will probably have about 300 to start with. Thing is, you dont know what is in the water when you use tap. Distilled has zero. R/o starts at about 10 The lower the better cause you know what your plant is getting.
My Tap water is 330 ppms and ph of 7.0
You can pick up a cheap ppm meter on eBay for around $20
pH test meters are available too but the test kit you can get from a pool supply place (the liquid one, not strips) works fine and is cheap.
The more you know, the better they grow.
lilmafia513
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cool wrote that down to remember,
I have a PH tester, the liquid drop bottle and vial.
My tap is at about 7.0 too, but never knew anything about the PPM's.
I'll check into the meter. Thanks!
Just ended week five of flower, I had to cut some out yesterday.
Yea, I know. I had to much in there. I had to see for myself.
I cut the tops of a couple of the widow stems that were to close to the light and started looking weird.
Now I know. Minimum of eight inches for 400w Air cooled or not.
I know that looks closer then eight inches but I am going from the actual bulb itself and the back fills in.
So maybe I am pushing the limit again. We will see.
I think I pretty much nuked the widows.
720ppm getting more bloom nutes in the FF mix now so I want the pH at 6.0 so my girls can use them better.
res temp still at 75f and root zone about the same.
Here is a close up of an average bud.
Most of the hairs are starting to turn but this still has some.
You know what I noticed?
These are growing more trichromes in the shade then in the light. I mean they have them on the
top buds but I have more production on the leaves this time. Check this out, used the flash.
And a shot with the kids.
lilmafia513
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looks good. Mixed up that clone drink the other day, gave it a try and the whole tray rooted overnight!!! I was amazed. I have a similar PH Chart to the one you posted, but it's crazy colors and can't hardly see it.
Great news man,
I'll bet they were already rooting but that is a nice thing to say.
Now you got it down you will have as many as you want.
PS I had that crazy colored one too.
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