SOG growers wanted !!!

[trouble9039]

How is everyone doing??? I am building A new Sog system hopefully tonight! When I get it up and running I will post some pic's for u guy's!! I am excited right now and I feel like A little kid. The new system will alow me 21 pot's in each tray using all my nut's at the fullest. How is it going sparkafire?

 

[sparkafire]

How is everyone doing??? I am building A new Sog system hopefully tonight! When I get it up and running I will post some pic's for u guy's!! I am excited right now and I feel like A little kid. The new system will alow me 21 pot's in each tray using all my nut's at the fullest. How is it going sparkafire?

Perfect Brother !

Looking forward to seeing your show.

 

[10mm fan boy]

I am tired of playing around with half ass trays and little plants.
At this point I have come too far and spent WAY too much money to stop trying to make things work the way I want them to.
I am going to get my first official 2x4 tray tomorrow.

Oh yeah....
today I even got to smoke my AK. I got to say it was a good day.

 

[pinner420]

If you want goood yeilds go 50 coco and 50 perilite... then your golden

 

[grandpabear3]

So I'm three weeks into this SoG and wondering if I should be pruning a lot more of the big fan leaves off of my girls to allow more light to the lower buds?

no, if the bud that the fan leaf feeds is good enough to keep then so is the leaf. if the bud is down to low or too long(branching off the main stem) then you cut it all off anyway, or should. if the bud is looking lighter ....very much lighter than the rest or the ones up top, then it might be too low to get enough good light....so chop it.

They're pretty well poodled up from the bottom, but the tops seem to be a bit unruly still...

btw , they look wonderfull. as long as you have great air circulation and no humidity issues. then rock out with your cock out.!!!

the two pics below should give a pretty good idea of what's going on. I think they're fine, and will kick down a decent amount no matter what happens with the fan leaves,

wow on the pics and i hate you. yes they are fine and your harvest will dwarf mine and mine keep me happy.

but my buddy thinks chopping everything not directly attached to a kola is the way to go.

tell him to put his helmet back on and get his wheelchair back on the bus!

Al says this, Jorge Cervantes says that, wives tales, wives tales...

we will forgive this indiscretion......just this once.

Just about ready. What do you think?

pale and defecient....looks perfect ......i'd be checkin' those trics.

That is where my problems started.
I take all my clones from the top of the plant. Someone tell me if this is wrong.

nope you can take them from anywhere at all.

After 3 runs of cuttings my mothers were growing back 1/8" instead of the 1/4" they started off being. First two times I only took 5 per plant and only the last time I took 10 per plant.

i realized spork gave you solid info on this one but already quoted you and didnt feel like erasing it so......

My girls growing in hydroton are only HALF the size of the ones in 4" RW cubes.
I think the problem is that my tray only floods my pots 1.5", so I only have 2" of root mass below my cutting. That is why I will be getting new trays soon.
Please let me know if that deffenatly sounds like the reason or if something else might be at play.
thanks,
10

ol' sporky beat me to it.

I've got a query for you all.

What are your thoughts on the degeneration of clones? Is this something that really happens? If so is it only prevelant after many many generations?
I'm currently on my 6th or 7th generation of clones of clones. So far i havn't noticed any change in the growing patterns at all.
Yet some people insist that genetics breaking down is a real thing.
Common sense says that i shouldn't have a problem, its the same dna, from the same plant, it hasn't been an issue yet.

I'm just wondering what you cats think?

where the hell did sporkster come from???????? he's gonna make it where i can retire.

The definition of a clone is a %100 genetic match. No degradation happens of the genes. Tell anyone who disagrees to fuck off and buy a dictionary.

sometimes i love you

Oh yeah....
today I even got to smoke my AK. I got to say it was a good day.

ice cube lyrics (sorta)..........priceless

 

[grandpabear3]

HEY BUGS!!!!! DUMB ASS FINALLY GETS IT!!!

your a hard man to like

So who is the next retard I can fuck with?

ask and ye shall recieve brother...........

If you want goood yeilds go 50 coco and 50 perilite... then your golden

 

[rayjunyor]

hey guys i just bouth my material to building my ebb/flow setup and going throu my first grow....i hope we can share some some experience and help each other....i have 3x2 trying which support about 15 small plants ...im think about littke sog style...i will post some pics later...thank

 

[grandpabear3]

hey guys i just bouth my material to building my ebb/flow setup and going throu my first grow....i hope we can share some some experience and help each other....i have 3x2 trying which support about 15 small plants ...im think about littke sog style...i will post some pics later...thank

welcome to the club bor....err umm...ray sounds like you have a plan. looking forward to seeing your grow.

 

[Old in the Way]

Como estas, beeches.......Just thought I would let you guys know that I am still alive, as is the op (i know you guys were worried)...........glad to see you weed barons are still at it.

May 2nd....World Wide Marijuana March......get active u friggin stoners......check their site for a march near you.

 

[Old Frog]

Bugsrnme, thanks for your pointers! Last night I saw some overlapping of larger fan leaves produce condensation between them, which I know is a sure fire way to get powdery mildew started in the garden. Thinned the problem leaves out and set my dehumidifier to run intermittently (30 minute run time every four hours) throughout the day and night to address any further issues.

On a related note: I've gone through a slew of those shitty portable AC/Dehumid units over the past two years, and found the consumer models ($350-600) to be highly inadequate and janky products. Has anyone had proven consistency with any particular brand or unit? Something that can handle a quasi-industrial load without dying after a few months? I'm seriously considering the Ebac CD30 as an end-all solution to this ongoing debate at my house.


Also, I guess I'm not doing a straight SoG proper, being that I topped and cropped 90% of the plants in the second week of veg. It's more of a SCroG hybrid, which has it's benefits and drawbacks. Major drawback to me is the lack of uniformity in kola level. I've got height disparities of over eight inches in some places, which is super annoying for my OCD to have to deal with! Fortunately I mitigate this perceived stress with medicine.

 

[paperfetti]

HEY BUGS!!!!! DUMB ASS FINALLY GETS IT!!! Welcome to the SOG FORUM PAPER! Geez Fuckin took you long enough!

So who is the next retard I can fuck with?

lol..i just noticed ya avatar...a little fire with a baseball cap and glove...so your the catcher and bugs is pitching...i got ya now...ill leave you 2 alone to touch..uhhh,i mean play.

 

[rayjunyor]

Hi guys im putting my things rogether . i will post some pics later... but this is my first question... what the best water temperature for the bublle clone machine. i thought about 5.8 - 6...since i will be running my ebb/flow with 5.8ph....Another question is how i transfer the little clones after rooting to the rockwoll to put at the ebb/flow...or i dont need Rockwool...just stick the lottle clone with inside the pot with hydroton?? or i have to put into rockwool cube in order to transfer to the hydroton bed in the ebb/flow. thanks

 

[rayjunyor]

my bad ...RATIFICATION.... its not water tempetature ...it sthe water PH..im asking

 

[Wohjew]

well make sure you dont make the mistake i did.... plant cube with clone .5- 1 inch above flood line , im luck and only lost 1 plant out of 100 due to over water . i think 5.5 to 6 would be fine to root

 

[rayjunyor]

when you talk about flood line ...you mean...my clone machine...or my ebb/flow reservoir...??

 

[SpruceZeus]

my bad ...RATIFICATION.... its not water tempetature ...it sthe water PH..im asking

I'm only a few weeks into hydro myself so dont take this as expert advice, but too i went right from my aerocloner to hydroton so hopefully i can give you some advice that was passed along to me.

-Make sure your plants have a good root system established before you take them out of you cloner. I pushed my luck with a couple of clones that only had a few taproots, they are the ones that have failed to grow, they will soon be culled. Appropriately, the clones with the best roots have been the best performers thusfar.
-when transferring i found the best technique was to fill my netpots about halfway, nestle the clone in, and then gently fill the pot the rest of the way.
-water your plants gently by hand for the first several days until the roots have grabbed on to your media.
-I'm currently growing 3 different phenotypes of the same strain on my table, trying to feel out which one(s) to keep, I wouldnt reccomend this. Ideally you want every plant on your table to be from the same mother. There are just too many issues with different nute requirements, different finishing times etc.

Heres a shot of my table. The plants that look like shit (yeah yeah they all do, i'm still new to the cloner and a bit of a hack.) are the ones that had the least amount of roots.

anyhow hope this helps some

Good luck and happy growing.

 

[paperfetti]

Heres a shot of my table. The plants that look like shit (yeah yeah they all do, i'm still new to the cloner and a bit of a hack.) are the ones that had the least amount of roots.

anyhow hope this helps some

Good luck and happy growing.

i think those the wrong pots homey

 

[SpruceZeus]

i think those the wrong pots homey

something wrong with the netpots?

 

[grandpabear3]

Bugsrnme, thanks for your pointers!

dont thank me yet.

Thinned the problem leaves out and set my dehumidifier to run intermittently (30 minute run time every four hours) throughout the day and night to address any further issues.

why dont you run it all the time? are your humidity levels that good?

On a related note: I've gone through a slew of those shitty portable AC/Dehumid units over the past two years, and found the consumer models ($350-600) to be highly inadequate and janky products.

well that sucks, i was thinkin' 'bout gettin' onna dose.

Has anyone had proven consistency with any particular brand or unit? Something that can handle a quasi-industrial load without dying after a few months? I'm seriously considering the Ebac CD30 as an end-all solution to this ongoing debate at my house.

my unit is a 30 liter made by ???? i forget. i'll be home monday and will check.

lol..i just noticed ya avatar...a little fire with a baseball cap and glove...so your the catcher and bugs is pitching...i got ya now...ill leave you 2 alone to touch..uhhh,i mean play.

i guess i should be happy i'm pitchin then?....hey, wait a minute...

Hi guys

what it do pimpin'?

what the best water temperature for the bublle clone machine. i thought about 5.8 - 6...since i will be running my ebb/flow with 5.8ph.

5.8 is the magis #...i dont correct down till 6.2-6.3

when you talk about flood line ...you mean...my clone machine...or my ebb/flow reservoir...??

he means the level the water reaches in the tray during the flood

something wrong with the netpots?

yes, but they can/do work but it's not the right tool for the job. but use em up if you dont have issues.

 

[brontobrandon1]

i use them, they work great so far...what kinds of pots do yall use???