My first grow

Jerry Garcia

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While working in the above space, one of my cfl clusters fell onto the TWO GIRLS! 1/4 of the one girl is lost, the top of the other and some side branches got burned, otherwise no major damage, but did it have to fall on my best ones? Ugh.

They should survive. Probably a couple less sites to clone now.

Latin your grow looks good, I'll be checking in it.

Back to work...a little dejected :sad:
 

Jerry Garcia

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Oh Gosh Jerry, sorry to hear that.

Just for the record, how are hey hanged?

Tchau....
They are hung from thin chains suspended by hooks screwed into the bottom of the shelf above it. Some of the chains are secured to the fixtures by safety pins. I think it was a safety pin that failed. I'm going to the hardware store later to find an alternative I guess.

I was just thinking earlier today how devastating it would be if a light fell on the plants...foreshadowing I suppose...
 

growforgood904

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Thats nuts Jerry!! u live and learn huh! bet or 2nd grow will be less problems! i am currently reading on ph and about to start the nute regimine. i am starting with liqud karma first. u ever heard of it ?
 

Tatan

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While working in the above space, one of my cfl clusters fell onto the TWO GIRLS! 1/4 of the one girl is lost, the top of the other and some side branches got burned, otherwise no major damage, but did it have to fall on my best ones? Ugh.

They should survive. Probably a couple less sites to clone now.

Latin your grow looks good, I'll be checking in it.

Back to work...a little dejected :sad:

Im really sorry to hear that Jerry, I know its horible, and I know the feeling, my bagseed plant had 2 main stems when I put he to flower, same thing happened, now it has 1 main cola. Hang in there. I´m happy uou got more girls though, and thats right cloning is the way to go man !

Also keep in mind that your plants just showed sex... now the big stretch will begin... they will stretch a lot more before slowing down and putting all their energy into bud production.

And yeah CFL do work, thats what Im using, but hps has more power... Jery will be able to just put his Hps and use his CFl for extra lighting.
One thing I like about CFL is that since they dont get too hot you get them really close to the plants and give them light from more angles
 

Jerry Garcia

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Thats nuts Jerry!! u live and learn huh! bet or 2nd grow will be less problems! i am currently reading on ph and about to start the nute regimine. i am starting with liqud karma first. u ever heard of it ?
I certainly learned...got myself some new chain yesterday! And no more safety pins!

Im really sorry to hear that Jerry, I know its horible, and I know the feeling, my bagseed plant had 2 main stems when I put he to flower, same thing happened, now it has 1 main cola. Hang in there. I´m happy uou got more girls though, and thats right cloning is the way to go man !

Also keep in mind that your plants just showed sex... now the big stretch will begin... they will stretch a lot more before slowing down and putting all their energy into bud production.

And yeah CFL do work, thats what Im using, but hps has more power... Jery will be able to just put his Hps and use his CFl for extra lighting.
One thing I like about CFL is that since they dont get too hot you get them really close to the plants and give them light from more angles
Thanks Tatan. They'll be ok, just wish it hadn't happened. I'm ready for the big stretch though...I want them to get some meat on their bones before they really start to bud!

If you want to really see how effective cfl's can be when used exclusively, check out this guys thread--

https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/170617-heres-what-cfls-can-do.html

Pretty killer!
 

Jerry Garcia

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So yesterday was a bit stressful. I had elaborate plans to restructure my whole set up, but a few snags were hit along the way. Suffice it to say I'm glad yesterday is over.

I began by removing the males from their pots and transferring them to their new home, a trash bag. Removal was actually quick, easy, and painless for the plant. I snapped a couple shots once removed to show the root structure.

They were so damn healthy, I wish they weren't fucking males...


As I mentioned before, a fixture of 4 cfls fell on my two girls yesterday. One took the brunt of the damage, the other only lost one branch. When the lights fell, the weight broke some branches, causing the broken part to appear like a flattened worm that could no longer support the leaves. One branch on the thinner girl appeared to be producing new growth, and was likely going to be another bud site. Seeing as it was already damaged and going to die, I decided to try and clone it. Unfortunately, there was little stem for me to use, as I didn't have much choice where to cut it. I dipped it in some powdered rooting hormone and stuck it in the soil, maybe 1" deep.

Here she is...


Should I cut off those fan leaves near the base of the plant? It would create some extra stem I could bury to help get the roots going...

Once that situation was taken care of, I moved on to expanding the space. I didn't want to remove the shelf they were on completely, so I got some 2x4's and created an in-between shelf! Now I have much better distance from the hps (so they don't get burned!) and all 12 cfls are back up and running! The only draw back is the placement of the t5's...they're a little too high now, so I may move them later today.

Notice where the mylar ends and the white begins on the left wall...this is where the shelf used to be. I added at least 1.5 feet.


In this one you can see the distance from the top to the cfls and the hps (also note how empty it is looking in there...pulled another male today--4 total so far)


I had also planned on setting up my veg space yesterday...looks like this is going to have to wait. I bought parts to create two more 4-cfl fixtures (~$20 total), but am not quite ready to set it up yet. Soon though.

Note the empty space on top...


That's it. I didn't take any pics of the damaged plants this morning as I had already put them back in the space. I'll get some later though show the damage. Again, its not the end of the world, just a preventable tragedy.
 

Jerry Garcia

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damn thats a drag!! i will smoke some PPP for you! my favorite morning wake up!! and yes Jerry life goes on!!
What's PPP?

It's all good. I'm focusing on the good now, like being happy I expanded my space. Next step is to transplant, which should be a breeze now that I've done it a few times with the males. Still waiting on a couple to show sex though...

I have another issue however. I verified another male (5 total out of 11). Unfortunately, he shares a round pot with another plant, that I suspect is female (though she hasn't exposed herself yet). I can't remove him as the roots are undoubtedly entangled, so I was thinking of just slicing him off at the base of the stem and letting him die. That way, the roots of the other plant stay alive and I get the male out of the way!

Do you think this will work? What are some possible negative outcomes of this situation?

Thanks for the input!
 

Tatan

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What's PPP?

It's all good. I'm focusing on the good now, like being happy I expanded my space. Next step is to transplant, which should be a breeze now that I've done it a few times with the males. Still waiting on a couple to show sex though...

I have another issue however. I verified another male (5 total out of 11). Unfortunately, he shares a round pot with another plant, that I suspect is female (though she hasn't exposed herself yet). I can't remove him as the roots are undoubtedly entangled, so I was thinking of just slicing him off at the base of the stem and letting him die. That way, the roots of the other plant stay alive and I get the male out of the way!

Do you think this will work? What are some possible negative outcomes of this situation?

Thanks for the input!

Yes... I think it will work. I transplanted a plant so badly i lost half its roots and the roots stayed there... plant recovered nicely. I think somebody said on this thread that the oots would rot and poison the other plant, but i dont think this is likely.

As far as the other plant, yeah I would cut the base fan leaves.

Wow Jerry you have a really nice setup after all that work, congrats man :clap:
 

Jerry Garcia

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Yes... I think it will work. I transplanted a plant so badly i lost half its roots and the roots stayed there... plant recovered nicely. I think somebody said on this thread that the oots would rot and poison the other plant, but i dont think this is likely.

As far as the other plant, yeah I would cut the base fan leaves.

Wow Jerry you have a really nice setup after all that work, congrats man :clap:
Thanks man, I put a lot in it so I hope it works as planned. I'm just concerned about keeping the top light proof during the flower dark period...I'm sure I'll work it out though!

On a totally unrelated note, I recently found the perfect microscope at my parents house when I was out for a visit. I vaguely remember owning/seeing it as a child, and was shocked to find it still there and still working! I've been looking at the different herbs I've had recently and it is freaking amazing! You see pictures of it online, but when you look at what you're about to smoke, it just makes you feel good inside! Can't wait till I'm doing that with my own buds!
 

Jerry Garcia

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Also, the clone is not looking so hot. Probably not going to make it. No great loss really, but would have been cool if she stuck around.

Regarding slicing off the male, I'm going to post another thread and see if I can get some input from the community. I thought root rot might be a problem, but I'll find some more info before I do anything.
 

Tatan

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Thanks man, I put a lot in it so I hope it works as planned. I'm just concerned about keeping the top light proof during the flower dark period...I'm sure I'll work it out though!

On a totally unrelated note, I recently found the perfect microscope at my parents house when I was out for a visit. I vaguely remember owning/seeing it as a child, and was shocked to find it still there and still working! I've been looking at the different herbs I've had recently and it is freaking amazing! You see pictures of it online, but when you look at what you're about to smoke, it just makes you feel good inside! Can't wait till I'm doing that with my own buds!

Yeah man...actually im trying to get a little microscope for the same reason :lol:
 

Jerry Garcia

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Yeah man...actually im trying to get a little microscope for the same reason :lol:
Mine is from RadioShack, but keep in mind it's old. It says "30x illuminated microscope and 8x magnifier" and it is plenty strong to see the trichs up close and personal!
 

Jerry Garcia

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Mine is from RadioShack, but keep in mind it's old. It says "30x illuminated microscope and 8x magnifier" and it is plenty strong to see the trichs up close and personal!
Another kind of off topic thought I had moments ago...why not just sprout some more bag seeds? I've got others I collected from some less-than-awesome-but-still-had potential weed, and my veg room is going unused until I'm ready to take some clones, so why not throw a handful in and see what takes? I'd like to get some good seeds online, but I need somewhere to send them to that isn't my house...
 

Tatan

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Another kind of off topic thought I had moments ago...why not just sprout some more bag seeds? I've got others I collected from some less-than-awesome-but-still-had potential weed, and my veg room is going unused until I'm ready to take some clones, so why not throw a handful in and see what takes? I'd like to get some good seeds online, but I need somewhere to send them to that isn't my house...
Yeah why not... If the space is going to waste...
Btw... seed companies ship in a very discreet manner...when i got mine there is no way i would have been able to find them if i didnt know where to look.
 

Jerry Garcia

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Yeah why not... If the space is going to waste...
Btw... seed companies ship in a very discreet manner...when i got mine there is no way i would have been able to find them if i didnt know where to look.
Yeah, I just don't want to give them my address and credit card info, ya know? Not so much because the seed company will blow my cover, but because the federales may be observing who is buying these things and where they are going...
 

growforgood904

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that is a big worry.. i sent money order .. and sent them to another house far away.. it took 2 weeks, but if u dont have a good spot i would wait and ask a close riend.. maybe ur sitter? dont know the specifics tho..
 

Jerry Garcia

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that is a big worry.. i sent money order .. and sent them to another house far away.. it took 2 weeks, but if u dont have a good spot i would wait and ask a close riend.. maybe ur sitter? dont know the specifics tho..
Right, I always forget you can do money order. My buddy told me that the other day. I still need somewhere to ship them though...I'll work on it and let you guys know!
 
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