Thundercat's Groooooooow

[Thundercat]

Well no my first wasn't, but that was a couple years ago, the first of the recent ones was actually one of the best flushs I've gotten. lol. I'm hoping I can get a half lb at this point, if I get more then that I'll be extra happy!!! Then next time, I'll do a few things differantly, and maybe I'll get my whole lb!!

 

[DaGambler]

actually, long as we (were) on the subject ...

i prefer the 'multi-pronged' gnat attack plan.

ie; diatamaceous earth on all surfaces and floors, malathion for the medium and rez, pyrethrums and neem oil for the foilage, sticky traps around the pots, and fly paper dangling from the sky...

make war with those biatches !!!

just make the world a very unfriendly place for them.
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[Thundercat]

I'm getting some sticky traps later today, and prolly some safer soap for the leaves, and then tomorrow I'm gonna get the malathion at lowes.

So heres the pictures I've been promising all week! I finally did the transplant, on all the plants except the males, and the mangos. I'm gonna stick with my thought that the ones that were not growing were root bound, cus when I cut the bottom off the bag, it was a solid mass, about an inch think in some spots. So I loosened them up a bit, and they are sitting on about 8 inchs of fresh soil!! Some of the others had alot of roots down there, but none were as bad as the big purple power. On the plus side, even though I am about 90% posative those 3 plants are males, I am also about 90% posative the rest are all females now. Even the big purple power is showing sex, its just not growing much other wise. So I'm happy about that. I'm also pretty sure that my WW is showing some female preflowers. I put it into flower today after the transplant. I'm gonna put the mango and Kush in this weekend when I make the final call on the males. I decided I"m just gonna chop them, and not mess with trying to get pollen this time around. If I get a male mango I will grow that out, but I'm not gonna mess with the others. I'm going to the store later to get water, and they will all be getting a nice drink tomorrow. I'm gonna use a couple differant mixes for the differant plants. I think they will all get a dose of epsom salts, I'll also give all but the big purple power another dose of the open sesame, this time a half dose with a 1/4 strength dose of big bloom. I suppose on the plus side one of the plants that wasn't growing was a male, so its not such a waste right. I also put a purple power clone into flower today, its just a little guys, but I figured it wouldn't hurt. Well heres all the pictures.

The first are the roots on the big purple power. Then the 2 mangos in one bag, and the top view of the bushy mango. A couple of the Kush, and then a group shot. Got 2 of the WW, and then the little PP clone. THen last but not least the big power skunk, and the big purple power finally.

Hope you guys enjoy I'll be back on later, talk to you then. TC

 

[littlegrower2004]

wow TC looking good.. those plants got massive roots and im sure they are going to love the new soil. hope theres no shock.

 

[420weedman]

roots looks healthy man .
i have no males and i got still got seeds ... not many but

 

[CaliGurl]

Looking nice TC! missed a bit there had to catch up sucks about the gnats.. when I had aphids and spider mites and umm oh white flys lol I tried all kinds of stuff neemoil, some soap pepper spray, lady bugs, organic sprays and stuff well point being nothing worked and I finally just grabbed some ortho max and I preventive spray clones once before they move into veg and use it when ever bug issues arise and have had successs so u may want to try that if nothing else works. (I dont use it in flower tho only veg plants so I cna clean them off later.) N e ways great work how far are u into flowering?

 

[Thundercat]

THanks everyone, glad you enjoyed the pics.

Cali it will be 2 weeks on sunday, and they are all showing sex now. Thankfully I don't have the gnat problem in my flower room, only with some clones in an upstairs closet so far. I'm headed out to the store soon, for some supplies. Its sooooo nice to finally see some buds forming!!! They've got a long way to go, but it feels great!

 

[DaGambler]

wow, the girls are really getting big. ur deffinitely growing some bushes. i am too mostly right now... next time i think i'll lean more toward single colas. but these guys (or, hopefully, girls) seem to be filling in your area very well.
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[Thundercat]

Ya my space has been filling up fairly quickly. I'm very glad I have the 400w light to go along with the 1000. I'm gonna need the extra to get good even light coverage. I havn't been down there yet today, but unless one of the mangos goes male, I think I'm only looking at the 3 of them. Which I suppose I started with 13 plants in 10 grow bags all from seed, so I don't think 3 males is really to bad. Thats actually the same amount I had on my last grow, but it was only 9 plants to start, and 3 males.

I hear you on leaning towards single cola plants. I don't know if I want to do just single cola, but maybe aim for like 2-4 main colas, and not bush them out so much next time. I'll have to see, I mostlygrew them this way cus I was working with pure sativas. I knew I ddin't have the height to work with, so I wanted to make sure I got some bud out of them. IN the future I plan on growing mostly indicas, and strong hybrids. I'm thrilled with how my WW is growing, its gonna be a gorgeous bush. I think if I grow bushs im the future, they will more likely be trees, not bushs. Kingspade clued me into using a whole bale of promix and just putting 1 or 2 plants into the top f the bale, and just letting them veg for a couple months, to result in a pretty good size bud tree! I thought it wold be fun to try, maybe I'll put a scrog net over it, and grow out a plant big enough to pull an lb off. Veg it for like 3-4 months, in a 6x6 scrog under either a 600w, or my 1000. I don't know, so many plans and ideas, I want to try everthing! Well I'll talk to you guys latta I gotta hit the store and get my water and a few things to take care of today. Peace TC

 

[Thundercat]

So I found a good source for water. The store down the street from me has a machine infront of it where you can fill up jugs. Its like 1.25 for 5 gallons, so not a bad price, and I can back my car right up to the curb and just load and unload the water real easy. I tested it and it was at a ppm of 90, so not perfect, but a whole lot better then 350 or 425 like it was. So They will be getting a dose of epsom salts with some open sesame in there to. I think that the open sesame may have really helped jump start the flowering. They showed sex at about 10 days, but they seem to have slowed upward growth already, and are starting to build the buds. I'm not complaining, I like seeing progress everyday when I go look. Hopefully after this watering the big purple power will be back on track too. Its showing sex, so I know it growing, now its time to put on the wieght!!!!

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

WOW dude, every time i look at your journal, its like a completely different set of pics man. The plants look COMPLETELY different than when i last looked man, im lovin it. Mine are about the same size as the first couple pics you put up - i need to let them go for a little more before i throw them into flower, but i mean only another week or two, n then im hot on your heels!!

N As far as single cola dominant plants go, i gotta say i was impressed with the size of the one bud i got off of my WW i did, but the overall yield wasnt as impressive as a bush woulda been IMHO. Im doing both single cola and bushes this time around, so i guess ill be able to get a definitive answer as to what i prefer personally. I got somethin like a total of 10 big plants in the dirt right now, n then another 18 in beer cups in seedling stage right now, 10 of which arent feminized (but all of them are in cubes, and i dont know if i can switch them to hydro or not, but if not then oh well, lol) - Are you using both your 400 n your 1000 light in the same room? or are you using the 400 for cuttings n seedlings? Sorry if i havent gone over all the pages since my last post, shit (as usual lately) has been hectic. N fuckin sucks to hear about your gnat problem too man, thats the one thing thats makin me hesitate about constructing the permanent growroom down in my basement too.

Your stuff is lookin awesome man. Cant wait to see the fuckers in another two weeks. Theyll be all big n beefy lookin...

N btw, i know how you feel about wantin to try everything dude. The bale idea is in the thoughtbank for sure - i was gonna pick up the bale n get started a while back on that shit (i think i posted about leavin for the shop to pick up the bale), but circumstances prevented that shit from goin down at the time -- but ill get to that shit man. If you get to it before my ass, more power to ya, lol, but better believe that if you end up doin it, its gonna make me go out n get myself a bale n be hot on your tracks with that shit Im gonna look at your journal for a bit though man. I wanna take a look at your girls before you ended up flowering them, just to seee how the spacing in between nodes is on your girls.
Mad props man, lemme see if i can +rep u..its been a while since ive repped anyone, lol

 

[Thundercat]

Hey King, thanks for stoppin by bro! I'm always glad when you grace us with your presence! I owe you alot of thanks man, your motivation really helped me get this shit goin. I deffinitly liked the bale idea, it might be the first thing I plant when I move, just cus it will be simple, and low maintanance.

Honestly I gotta thank alot of you guys for the help, advice, and encouragement along the way!! I'm really only to the half way point of this grow, but it seems like things are finally settling in for the long haul, atleast I hope so. The first part was the hard boring part, now comes the fun!!

I will also have some mushy pics up the beginning of next week. I've got the first flush from a new KS tray, and the 4th from my last KS tray. They should be done in a couple days. I'll be making an Ereal tray this weekend for the new chamber, and I'm hoping to have enough myc to make a burma tray next week. I've been having a few problems getting some jars to colonize, but I'm tryin to get it fixed. I also just ordered 3 new strains, and 4 pre-steralized 3lb bags of rye. I'm hoping the rye will be enough to make 2 trays per bag. I ordered some john allens, some hawaiians and a hybrid strain called alacabenzi( we'll call them "beniz"). All of these strains are supposed to be fast colonizing, high yeilding, and resistant to contams. So we'll see what they do.

 

[Thundercat]

So I watered this morning. I decided to go with a 1/2 tsp epsom, 1/4 tsp open sesame, and 1/4 strength big bloom and tiger bloom. Basically I followed the fox farm chart, at 1/4 strength for the week I'm in, and added the 1/2 tsp of epsom. I had noticed a couple copper spots on some of the leaves, so thats part of why I added the epsom. I've also heard the mg, helps the plants absorbs nutes better? I'm hoping it will all work out well. I did start to see some new growth on the big purple power today, I gave it about a gallon of plain ph'd water yesterday. I watered the kush, and mango with there last dose of veg nutes, and their first dose of open sesame. I used 2/3 strength grow big, and 1/4 tsp of open sesame. I also gave most of them a little trim. I remove some of the lower growth on them. I'll prolly remove just a few more in about a week or 2 once I see how the buds are gonna devlope.

NOw I'm also glad to say, I sprayed down my clones with safer soap yesterday, and so far I've only seen like 2 gnats today. I'm gonna give them another dose of safer soap tomorrow, to make sure the job is done.

I pulled the males out of the tent this morning, and the kush and mango will be going into the tent tomorrow. I'm gonna hook up my 400w next to my 1000w, and I'm mounting a 6 inch fan on each end of my 400w hood. Both will be blowing the same direction, and I'll put the glass onto the 400 finally. On one end of the hood, I'll attach some 6 inch ducting running out of the tent, and eventually through a DIY carbon filter in the next week or two. I'm really hoping the fans move enough air, they are each supposed to be 250cfm. I'm gonna leave the other end of the hood with the second fan on it open, to pull hot air from inside the tent. If this isn't cooling things enough as it gets hotter out, I'll get my hood for the 1000w cut, and put a flange on it to connect it to the ventalation as well. So far temps are staying decent, I've got a fan blowing towards the 1000w to keep the heat dissapated. Well guys thats it till tomorrow. I'll post a couple pics of the tent once I'm done with everthing tomorrow. Latta guys TC

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

Hey just remember that htg has an awesome 500cfm fan for 40 bucks right now n it works really well for what your tryin to do. I could cool off my 1000s and my 600 with just that one fan dude. So that's just a thought if your looking to cool your lights, scrub through your filter and exhaust it all, that one fan works really well. Looks just like one of those 80cfm fans that I had in my tent, only it's 8" . Just as quiet too

 

[Thundercat]

I think 8" would be to big, I would have to have a bunch of adapters, cus my 1000w is gonna have a 4 inch flange. I'm hoping I don't actually have to attach the 1000 to the ventalation, I'm hoping the 500cfm will pull enough air from the tent to serve its purpose, we'll see on sunday. Untill it gets smellier I still have the end off my tent, so its helping it stay cool with just the fan in there right now.

 

[DaGambler]

you'll have to re-spray every 3 or 4 days for awhile with that stuff... cuz the larval stage isn't affected.
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[Thundercat]

I noticed already this evening gambler, I went ahead and gave them another shot tonight. But it seems to be working either way. The gnats weren't terrible yet, so I think this should take care of it.

So this latest flush of the KS hasn't impressed me yet. Its kinda weak, I hope the second one is better. Lol, I'm counting on it to be!! My gf made up the Ereal tray today, and its in the incubator. It'll be going into the new FC in the next couple days. After this first flush is done on the KS it will get recased, and put into the new FC aswell. I'll give the old one a good cleaning, and I hope to be able to put a burma tray into it by the end of next week. Any way, I'll let you guys know how things go tomorrow, and prolly get some pics of everything almost done finally!!!

 

[nick12345]

why so serious?

 

[DaGambler]

why so serious?

'Cuz Thundercat Ain't Fugg'in Around Dude !!!

You want some Thunder ?! You want some Lightning ?!

heh. JK. i have no idea what ur talk'n 'bout. but i would -serious-ly like to have even 1/10th as many mushrooms as he goes through and/or creates.
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[Thundercat]

lol thanks gambler! I've actually cut back on the "goes through" in the last month or 2 I'm stockpiling for a 4/20 music fest. But when I first started this project I guarentee I ate about 2 oz to my head in the first 6 weeks of this year. I was eating about 4-5g every 2-3 days. You know I wish I could hook up all my buddies with some boomers if I could man!!!

So Nick, I also don't have a clue what your talking about man. I think I'm a pretty laid back guy. Honestly can't remember any point in the last 88 pages of this journal that there was any fights in here, or really any stress at all. So feel free to elaborate, and welcome to my thread!

Well I'm off to get my shit done. Talk to you guys latta, I'll let ya know how it goes. TC