SOG growers wanted !!!

[LoudBlunts]

mandela strains are nice for sog

hashberry, satori, etc etc

 

[LoudBlunts]

SOG Strains from the Big Book of Buds volume 1 & 2

Volume 1

atomic northern lights
BC big bud
belladonna
big bud
black domina
blueberry
blueberry x nice
blue velvet
bubbleberry
bubble gum
chronic
durga mata
dutch dragon
early queen
eclipse
hashmaster
hash plant
Hawaiian sativa
ice
island sweet skunk
kahuna
kali mist
master kush
max 49
medicine man
millennium
misty
nebula
niagara
niagara x shiva
northern lights
original misty
pot of gold
reclining Buddha
sensi star
sherherazade
shiva skunk
silver pearl
soma A+
spice
stonehedge
super skunk
ultra skunk
white Russian
white shark
white widow
willy jack brainer

Volume 2

afghanica
ambrosia
aurora indica
blue pearl
brains damage
bronze whaler
California grapefruit
candy cane brain
cannalope haze
cherry pez livity
diamond head
dreadlock
dutch treat x northern lights
endless sky
euforia
exile
heavy duty fruity
jack flash
lowryder
magic bud
Manitoba poison
maple leaf indica
marley's collie
mazar
mk-ultra
moroc x afghan
orange bud
papaya
passion queen
pineapple punch
power plant
purple skunk x Dutch treat
rocklock
rockstar
rox
sapphire star
sativa spirit
satori
shiesel
shiva skydot
slyder
snow white
sour diesel
stargazer
super shit
thai-tanic
waldo
warlock
white light

 

[LoudBlunts]

vol 3

AK-48
AMERICAN DREAM
AURORA BOREALIS
B-52
BC GOD BUD
BC SWEET TOOTH
BIG BANG
BIG BUDDHA CHEESE
BLUE BUDDHA
BLUE CHEESE
BURMESE KUSH
CHRYSTAL
CINDY 99 X PANAMA RED
D-LINE (CHOCALOPE)
ED ROSENTHAL SUBER BUD
FIRST LADY
FRUIT OF THE GODS FRUITY THAI
GONZO #1
HASHBERRY
HAZE MIST
ICE CREAM
JACK THE RIPPER
JILLY BEAN
KAYA
KC-36
KC-45
KISH
KIWISKUNK
KUSHAGE
LA CONFIDENTIAL
LOWRYDER #2
MARTIAN MEAN GREEN
MOTIVATION
MOTHERS FINEST
MOUNT COOK
NUKEN
OPIUM
POSH
PURPLE KUSH
SADHU
SOMINI
SOUR CREAM
SOUR DIESEL IBL
SPEED QUEEN
SPOETNIK #1
THE PURPS
T.N.R.
VENUS
WAPPA
WHITE BERRY
WHITE RHINO
WHITE SATIN
WHITE SMURF
WONDER WOMAN

 

[SpruceZeus]

So pretty much every strain...

 

[doogleef]

So pretty much every strain...

Any Indica-Dominant strain will do. If you are looking for commercial production (and you are not in a heavily saturated market) go with a bigbud or chronic cross. The BB X northern lights crosses yield big in 8 wks. If you are in it for the flavor and the high grab a berry cross or papaya. Not great yielder (kush liniage) but fuckin yummie. I'm growing Whiteberry now and it really tastes good now that it has cured a few weeks. I will be lucky to get it dialed up to more than about .75 grams/watt though.



Awesome posts as always, LB. Reasoned and experience-backed as always. Rep+ Good to have you hanging around.

A few points:

I love my air-bubbler in the res, and yes, no doubt, h2o2 is keeping the nasties at bay. All chem nutes all the time. Just as Al. B and Lucas (my other Cannhero) recommend.

Organic-hydro sounds like mess-soup to me.
I don't worry about bacterias or enzymes. I grow weed. lol

Could not agree more that soil was much more of a pain in the ass guessing game than the dro setup. I know exactly what my plants are eating at all times. Especially with the nice, already broken down and available, chemical soup they get. I am afirm beliver that stong plants are more about environment than the kinds of nutrition the plant takes up. As long as all the plants nutritional needs are met, I don't care where it comes from. Buds and plant mass are more about o2 in the roots aong with co2 and light in the room.

Cloning was easy from the begging for me once I got the cuts down. NO need for yet another tub setup cluttering my place. . Rockwool + moisture+ heatpad = profuse roots is 12-14 days. %100. I kill lots clones that are deamed "unworthy" but they are rooted, just not as robust as the stronger ones. I may go with rapidrooters when I run out of this batch or RW. RW is kinda a pain with the PH and water retention.

 

[doogleef]

The time has come to bid farewell to SOG fellas.

I had my MMJ eval a few days ago and should have my cert in about 2 weeks. That means I have a restriction on the number of plants I can have. That part sucks but at least I am working on legality.

I'm thinking SCROG or (hiss) soil. My height restrictions won't allow me to grow trees so I need to maximixe my canopy with 3 plants. My res takes up about 18" of vert space. I have my 2 moms that could be woven on a screen in a couple weeks veg time. I also have about a dozen rooted clones that have been vegging under the 400 for about a week now. I just got themharderend off to the HPS and was gonna flip the 12/12. Now I may wait and tranplant the strongest ones (rough choice) to dirt.

I may give coco a run and setup a drip. Decisions, decisions.

 

[trouble9039]

doogleef- Can you stay with in legal limit's doing your SOG? Down size the system? Just saying that sent chill's down my spine. I have been looking into my lic. and currious on it but from what I have heard I will wait!

 

[BirdTooth]

-Rubbermaid Roughneck 42 gal tub with lid x2 (second lid unnecessary but comes with purchase anyway)

-8' length of 3/4" PVC x1

-Clone Sprayers
-360 sprayers x12
-180 sprayers x16

-pump x1

-1 3/8" hole saw x1

-tap screw for spreader threads

-bur tool to smooth hole edges on lid


Good enough?

Definitely. Now if I can only locate one of those tubs.

Thank you.

 

[Old Frog]

A Birdtooth, no problem man, good luck.

The time has come to bid farewell to SOG fellas.

Can't you just grow for more card holders?

 

[WiiToke]

Nice, thanks for the ideas Doogleef. I Have seen that Book of Buds list but I never knew how well tested it was. For example, I tried to SOG Nirvana's BC big bud, that was literally impossible. I have never seen such stretching at flower. I think that there might be a lot of variation in B.B strains and maybe another is much more suited to SOG

I agree with you about Northern lights/B.B. hybrid. Actually I am growing some of that right now It stays relatively short, and grows some big ass buds! (Though not the densest buds). Peeps really seem to like the taste/high too. The only thing I don't like, is that it is the slowest, and touchiest to clone, of the strains that I have right now.

my two cents about cloning is similar to what u said Doog (kind of the Al.b method.) I use Jiffy pellets instead of rockwool though, l use them because there cheap, easy to store, fit nicely into germ. trays. and Ph stable. Make sure they are not too wet though (same as R.W.) I have not noticed a difference between using Rapid Rooters, and jiffy pellets. To me they both have equal effectiveness.
I also highly recommend using a heat pad, but only w/ a thermostat. Before I hooked up my thermo. I had the hardest time keeping temps down.
With this method I root (almost) 100% in 6-8 days.

cheers

 

[LoudBlunts]

So pretty much every strain...

as doogle says.... any indica will do


shit... really any plant can be trained into a sog plant...some just do better in sog OPs than others i.e. faster plant and/or heavily yield, not much side branching, etc etc

 

[LoudBlunts]

Any Indica-Dominant strain will do. If you are looking for commercial production (and you are not in a heavily saturated market) go with a bigbud or chronic cross. The BB X northern lights crosses yield big in 8 wks. If you are in it for the flavor and the high grab a berry cross or papaya. Not great yielder (kush liniage) but fuckin yummie. I'm growing Whiteberry now and it really tastes good now that it has cured a few weeks. I will be lucky to get it dialed up to more than about .75 grams/watt though.



Awesome posts as always, LB. Reasoned and experience-backed as always. Rep+ Good to have you hanging around.

A few points:

I love my air-bubbler in the res, and yes, no doubt, h2o2 is keeping the nasties at bay. All chem nutes all the time. Just as Al. B and Lucas (my other Cannhero) recommend.

Organic-hydro sounds like mess-soup to me.
I don't worry about bacterias or enzymes. I grow weed. lol

Could not agree more that soil was much more of a pain in the ass guessing game than the dro setup. I know exactly what my plants are eating at all times. Especially with the nice, already broken down and available, chemical soup they get. I am afirm beliver that stong plants are more about environment than the kinds of nutrition the plant takes up. As long as all the plants nutritional needs are met, I don't care where it comes from. Buds and plant mass are more about o2 in the roots aong with co2 and light in the room.

Cloning was easy from the begging for me once I got the cuts down. NO need for yet another tub setup cluttering my place. . Rockwool + moisture+ heatpad = profuse roots is 12-14 days. %100. I kill lots clones that are deamed "unworthy" but they are rooted, just not as robust as the stronger ones. I may go with rapidrooters when I run out of this batch or RW. RW is kinda a pain with the PH and water retention.

oh yes, i run all chem op too.... but you have to remember you additives imo... anything like canna's rhizotonic, cannazym, pk 13/14, cannaboost, house & garden budXL whatever, whichever, etc etc

it all kinda falls in the same category and makes your chem OP less chem and some 'organic'

and yes, i know exactly what you mean as organic hydro...back when i first wanted to grow.. i always read about go organic, make sure you go organic... man organic is just an overly used word and truly only some people know how to do it, and do it well.

While there may be imposters-wanna be organic hydro nutes and shit like that... i do not think organic has its place in hydro (main feed regime). Too much more shit to worry about, no independance within system, etc etc

and oh, btw...i still love my enzymes you'd be surprised at just how much you'd like

and RW? blah! im no good with that.... even though my first clone was just cut at an angle and put in coco and it rooted.. me no likey RW, but not knocking those of you who do...

OVERGROW!!!

 

[ThomJefferson]

I started SOG in '88 after reading on it in Ask Ed.... 20 years ago. It's superior to all methods, particularly after mom hits about 4 months old. A good strain grown for SOG cloning will thru-put in 55 days, from cut-ing to cut-down and can top out at 45 inches plus yield 4 ounces per clone, or 4 ounces per sq. ft.... S1 under 250MH and S2 under a 400HPS in a 4x4 area. That's smokin'...

 

[livesoul]

Yo fellas, coming at you guys with some different questions.

1. Is it true that switching my mothers from 24 hour light (400watt MH) to 20/4 or 18/6 will reduce the stretching that takes place when i move them into my flowering chamber (1000watt HPS)? I'm growing sativas and these bitches are tall as hell! Like five feet at 5 weeks.

2. Any truth to the thumb tac method for increasing trichome production at the end of the flowering stage? I read about a week before you harvest you should put thumb tacs into the nodes to stress the plant out. It reacts and produces more tricomes.

3. What the hell is up with my plants? The 2nd set of plants I moved into my grow chamber (perpetual cycle) look all messed up. Towards the tops of the plants they are shooting branches out with just one leaf instead of 5. Check out the pictures.

The good looking plants are Power Skunks and Power Plants. Notice at the top the leaves are a limp on one of them. Does that mean something? The other pic with my hand in it is of my Durbon Poison.

 

[orzz]

Yo fellas, coming at you guys with some different questions.

2. Any truth to the thumb tac method for increasing trichome production at the end of the flowering stage? I read about a week before you harvest you should put thumb tacs into the nodes to stress the plant out. It reacts and produces more tricomes.

I see that causing more problems .... shock ... delay in product .... not worth it IMHO.

GL
peace and blessings

 

[sparkafire]

I am wondering what you mean by the term ebb and flow hydroponic sog?(what is sog???) I am starting my first grow with a standard ebb and flow system and am wondering if my method could be considered soggy??? And what is a weed baron? NOt used to all this lingo. thanks for any replies

Please refer to the VERY FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD PLEASE and come back and ask your question again.

 

[doogleef]

Yo fellas, coming at you guys with some different questions.

1. Is it true that switching my mothers from 24 hour light (400watt MH) to 20/4 or 18/6 will reduce the stretching that takes place when i move them into my flowering chamber (1000watt HPS)? I'm growing sativas and these bitches are tall as hell! Like five feet at 5 weeks.

No. Light cycle has nothing to do with stretch. It's about temp.

Where is my "Environment is everything" soap box .... There it is ..

To reduce the stretch the best way is to keep the night/day temps as close as possible in the first 3 weeks of flower. Keep the day temps cool and night temps warm so it stays within 5-7 degrees of each other. The larger temp difference you have from day to night the more stretch you will see.

This is, of course, not a magic solution. Sativas are stretchy bitches. That's the way it is.

2. Any truth to the thumb tac method for increasing trichome production at the end of the flowering stage? I read about a week before you harvest you should put thumb tacs into the nodes to stress the plant out. It reacts and produces more tricomes.

BOO. Try lowering the humidity for more tric output. This sounds painful to me and my plants.


3. What the hell is up with my plants? The 2nd set of plants I moved into my grow chamber (perpetual cycle) look all messed up. Towards the tops of the plants they are shooting branches out with just one leaf instead of 5. Check out the pictures.

Single leaf branches are a sign of major stress like reveg. I don't know enough about your op to comment further. Good luck!

The good looking plants are Power Skunks and Power Plants. Notice at the top the leaves are a limp on one of them. Does that mean something? The other pic with my hand in it is of my Durbon Poison.

I gave away my Durban Poison mother plant. The smoke was OK but not my cup of tea. Too earthy and heady. I like a more fruity palate and good locking body stone.

 

[LoudBlunts]

o0o0o0 thanks doogle.

learn something everyday.

i just thought stretch was attributed to flowering period. i know some strains dont stretch much as others...

same or 5-7 degree difference and mh to keep those bitches squatty huh?

 

[grandpabear3]

god i love it when bitches squat.........oh, oops.......wrong thread

 

[livesoul]

Single leaf branches are a sign of major stress like reveg. I don't know enough about your op to comment further. Good luck!

Hmm...the light cycle did f up about 3 weeks ago when that batch was just 2 weeks or so old. Light went off for a few hours during light period. I suppose that could have done it?

Also, i got a 1000watt HPS atop a 4x4 tray. 1400ppm organic floranova series and a blooming booster. Ebb and flow SOG style. CO2 and temperature regulator.