2 x 600w HPS VS. 1 x 1000w HPS What will yield more?

[dgk4life]

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[VaporBros]

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[BCtrippin]

Yeah that is a trip. I wanna get a highspeed camera, those things would be fun.

 

[9inch bigbud]

Only if you were comparing smaller CFLs to larger CFLs. And yes, Multiple small CFLs will yield MORE then 1 large CFL because they cant penetrate, so more points of light means you have more sources of light closer to more parts of the plant.


Do you really believe you will yield more with a 150 CFL vs 3 x 50w CFLS?

Same argument, 3 smaller CFLs will win every time. Saying to compare a CFL to HPS is just stupid though.

fool
source of light! you are contradicting your self yes a single 150 will yeild more than 3x50 cfl's

 

[9inch bigbud]

Why do you keep telling me to grow with 600s myself. I have, I have grown with 250w, 600s, 1000s. All of them.

When your coming off like a total dick and claiming that everyone is wrong BUT you WTF do you expect? Your an arrogant prick that thinks your smarter then everyone else and you have no proof to back up any of your claims.

Then when the Mass Majority proves you wrong you continue to lash out hoping to get even a bit of credibility.

Why dont you just get over it?


Im curious, Do you still think your right?

im a prick? take a look in the mirror kiss-ass

when the Mass Majority proves you wrong

where have they proved me wrong? with a fucking bull shit poll? you are a tit arnt you most of the ppl in that pole have not even used both. I have dont think you have used 1000s or you would know how much bigger tighter the colas are and if you did you would change back from your 600s to 1000s.

When your coming off like a total dick and claiming that everyone is wrong

where do i clame anyone is wrong? i have said in different shape room then the 2x 600s would be better i also said there is not a lot of difference beetween the 2 the way you are banging on the 2x600 grows loads more and no they dont, again try it your self and then post a pic so we can have a look.

you have no proof to back up any of your claims.

no i only have pics showing i have 2x600 room and a 1000w room and only my word what do you have? why would i need to lie about what yeilds me more? in another thread you said 2x600 was over kill in a 4x4 room LOL now you are saying it will out yeild a 1000w in the same room? you contradict your self all the time.

 

[9inch bigbud]

right here is what others who say the same as me they have used both 1000w and 2x600w = same as i have found out
http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-growing-techniques/220215-3-400-watts-vs-2-600-watts-vs-1000-watts.html

In SCOG and SOG a 400w works well, that is all I used and had great results.

Now that I moved on to a bucket setup the 1000 blows the the 600 away. I get a bigger yeild with 1 1000 than I did with 2 600's.

It is dependant on the aplication. But growing 6 ft plants under 400w lights is kind of a waste imo, unless you like popcorn buds

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This is something I have come to learn within the past 6 months, by no fault of my own. Simply thinking that wattages or lumens "add" doesnt comply. One 1000w bulb covering a 4' x 4' area will always produce more usable energy than two 600w lamps, at different angels, over the same area. It has to do with light coverage, but the same could be said for a 6' x 6' area covered by one 1000w lamp vs. two 600w lamps. The two 600w lamps will cover the 36 sq ft better than the 1000w lamp, but will not equal to 1200w tota

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I used to use 600w, now I use 1000w lights. With air cooled hoods you can have the 1000 as close to the plants as a 600/400.

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you see i am not alone in my findings others who have used both say the 1000w beats the 2x600 go tell them they are wrong as well LOL.

 

[FLoJo]

right here is what others who say the same as me they have used both 1000w and 2x600w = same as i have found out
http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-growing-techniques/220215-3-400-watts-vs-2-600-watts-vs-1000-watts.html

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you see i am not alone in my findings others who have used both say the 1000w beats the 2x600 go tell them they are wrong as well LOL.

thanks for proving me right LOL what did i say since the beginning?

2 600s are not as good as a 1000 growing large plants

and using 2 600s using 200 more watts and 2 more sq feet (3x6) will yield more than the 1000.

and to the dude that said he can get a 1000w as close as a 400 or a 600? thats just ignorant.. like someone else i know

 

[9inch bigbud]

thanks for proving me right LOL what did i say since the beginning?

2 600s are not as good as a 1000 growing large plants

and using 2 600s using 200 more watts and 2 more sq feet (3x6) will yield more than the 1000.

and to the dude that said he can get a 1000w as close as a 400 or a 600? thats just ignorant.. like someone else i know

i agreed with you about 3x6 and 2x600s would be better than 1000w. I then said watt for watt in a given space the 1000w was about the same and not much in them and i get more out of my 1000w room than i get from my 2x600s using around the same watts per square foot why do ppl find that hard to believe? adding an extra 200w will not yeild you another 200grams or no where near it if you used the both spaces as efficiently as possible. I am not saying i am correct or anyone is wrong i dont know where BC got that from? he just likes to make shit in to a war by making childish threads about everything that someone does not agree with him on and hopes to get numbers from polls on his side to back up his points when polls are only opinion polls they dont mean shit! what does is someone who has used both and know the out come of somthing they have tried untill someone comes along and shows me different and then i would still qestion it because of my own findings.

 

[Drr]

K well one guy said he used a table the other has a cubed room with reflective walls.. ofcourse the reflective walls will make that cube a sun box with that 1000W.. his table with no reflection looses more of the 1000w then you do... 600's work best for him.. your room doesnt allow for the less intense areas like his does... Reflection is huge.. also cant compare.. the 1000w will be more intense in spots yielding a bigger cola/bigger plants in that area, 600w'ers can be put closer so penetration isn't a huge issue unless plants are too tall...600s spread out the 1200w so depending on how you place the lights how close to each other(side by side aimed slightly towards each other will give you as close to the 1200w intensity as your gonna get.. but that defeats the purpose of having 2 light sources) that will determine how intense that center hot spot is(where the lights cross, also depends on how far the point at which the light crosses, is from the bulb) .. 600's hot spot is NOT as intense as the 1000W.. but it will have many more areas in the middle range of intensity. meaning more medium size buds all around.. while the 1000w will have bigger cola buds in the intense spots but pop corn in the ourskirts.. ALSO as for THC the more intense light from the 1000W on the bigger colas will most likely produce more THC in the intense areas resulting in the same or more weight.. BUT less buds or i guess just more half ounce buds as opposed to a couple ounce buds and many 1/4 ounce... so it all depends on what you want and your EXACT conditions.. PERIOD...

 

[Drr]

P.S. plant growth isn't just about coverage and spectrum.. intensity is huge.. you already compared the sun so that should be obvious for people to see..

 

[Drr]

and if you want weight.. hasn't there been threads about UVB???? ADD it and you should see more resin production..

 

[laserbrn]

I've also never claimed that it WILL produce more either, I stated that according to those that speculate, it won't, but according to those that have done it, in my findings, THEY always claim that the 1000w's produce more.

I don't know exactly why as I've stated because on paper and in the math the 600's should outperform.

But if you take the poll based ONLY on people who have done both, you'll see that quite a large percentage of those people have a whole different story to tell.

I weight EXPERIENCE heavier than opinion or speculation.

This never needed to be a flame war and those that are "laughing" are those that haven't tried it. I don't know why this had to turn into a flame war when if you search this forum, other forums, or talk to growers who have one both, you'll find a large percentage of growers make the same claim as 9" Big Bud.

Of course each setup is different and the designs, layouts, etc. may a big difference. And no one is claiming that one STOMPS the other.

I don't know how it turned into this ridiculousness or why I'm even responding again.

Reflectivity is obviously an issue and it may just be that a 1000w light in a 4x4 space with much higher reflectivity is better than 2 600's that don't advantage of it as much.

There's no reason that we need to turn everything into a flame war.

 

[9inch bigbud]

I've also never claimed that it WILL produce more either, I stated that according to those that speculate, it won't, but according to those that have done it, in my findings, THEY always claim that the 1000w's produce more.

I don't know exactly why as I've stated because on paper and in the math the 600's should outperform.

But if you take the poll based ONLY on people who have done both, you'll see that quite a large percentage of those people have a whole different story to tell.

I weight EXPERIENCE heavier than opinion or speculation.

This never needed to be a flame war and those that are "laughing" are those that haven't tried it. I don't know why this had to turn into a flame war when if you search this forum, other forums, or talk to growers who have one both, you'll find a large percentage of growers make the same claim as 9" Big Bud.

Of course each setup is different and the designs, layouts, etc. may a big difference. And no one is claiming that one STOMPS the other.

I don't know how it turned into this ridiculousness or why I'm even responding again.

Reflectivity is obviously an issue and it may just be that a 1000w light in a 4x4 space with much higher reflectivity is better than 2 600's that don't advantage of it as much.

There's no reason that we need to turn everything into a flame war.

well said m8

There's no reason that we need to turn everything into a flame war

 

[JordanTheGreat]

what about a 1000 watter on a six foot light rail vs. 2 600's...? i think we might have a more even fight then

 

[JordanTheGreat]

and if you want weight.. hasn't there been threads about UVB???? ADD it and you should see more resin production..

only in the last two weeks, they make high intensity discharge UVB bulbs now up to 1000W and they are to be used during the flush to add legendary bag appeal

 

[BCtrippin]

fool
source of light! you are contradicting your self yes a single 150 will yeild more than 3x50 cfl's

Are you damn near retarded? 3 x 50w CFL will BEAT a single 150w CFL any day.


You have no credibility. You are wrong. Get over it.

Its pathetic, there are more people that Dont Care then there are that agree with you.

I honestly cant believe you keep coming back. Get over it. Your an idiot, your wrong, and you need to stop spreading bad info.

 

[BCtrippin]

no i only have pics showing i have 2x600 room and a 1000w room and only my word what do you have? why would i need to lie about what yeilds me more? in another thread you said 2x600 was over kill in a 4x4 room LOL now you are saying it will out yeild a 1000w in the same room? you contradict your self all the time.

OK. Pics Please. Lets fucking see them. I want to see pics PROVING that you really do have these grow rooms you claim to have.

And dont bother posting those same 6 pics you posted already like 20 times.

New pics that PROVE you actually have what you CLAIM. Your argument is that you have tried it, but I have YET to see ANYTHING that proves you really do grow anything.

I cant believe you actually came back to argue. Get over it. You were proved wrong about 100 times by several people. YOU ARE WRONG, GROW UP AND GET OVER IT. MOVE ON....As you would say "GO AWAY!!"

 

[BCtrippin]

I've also never claimed that it WILL produce more either, I stated that according to those that speculate, it won't, but according to those that have done it, in my findings, THEY always claim that the 1000w's produce more.

There's no reason that we need to turn everything into a flame war.

Well if you cant achieve the max potential with 2 x 600s then its the GROWER not the LIGHTING.

There's no reason that we need to turn everything into a flame war.

Why dont you and 9inch follow this advise?


Again, your basing personal experience against Reality. Not only is 2 x 600 better on paper, its better in practice. If 2 growers couldn't grow more with 600s vs 1000w that doesnt mean the 1000w is better in any way, that just means that you guys didnt achieve maximum efficiency.


You and 9inch keep saying to go try it. Like no one else has grown with 600s before..


I have some advice, Why dont YOU TWO go try it. Spend some time hitting max efficiency with 2 x 600s then you will realize that you've been wasting your time arguing your Personal Opinion that 1 x 1000w is somehow better.

 

[9inch bigbud]

Are you damn near retarded? 3 x 50w CFL will BEAT a single 150w CFL any day.


You have no credibility. You are wrong. Get over it.

Its pathetic, there are more people that Dont Care then there are that agree with you.

I honestly cant believe you keep coming back. Get over it. Your an idiot, your wrong, and you need to stop spreading bad info.

have you done it? can you prove it? no? then shut the fuck up untill you can is your best bet you are the cunt spreading bad info because you have not done it! i have you have not there is a big difference! what you growing under then if its not 600s or 1000S LOL looking at your colas is like looking at my bottom buds must be 400s or 250s? why would you down grade from a 600w or a 1000w do thet grow more bud than the 2 bigger bulbs? you talk shit you have nothing to bring to this other than you grow cannabis nothing else! speculate all you like put it in to practice dick head then find out what works! you have never even seen a 1000w grow in the flesh you use pussy lights that produce next to fuck all other than wispy top colas and the bottom shit i would throw out LOL i cant for the life of me see why you dont grow with 600s if you think they are the bomb!

take a look around at ppls grows under 600s and then take a look at the 1000w growers will give you some idea. enjoy your fluffy scraggly buds retarded!

 

[aknight3]

if course the 1k is more efficient, 1 ballast vs 2, 1000 watts vs 1200watts....2 6ers would yield more i think but its just my opinion, 2 spots of light = better light coverage in general and giving you higher lumen per sq ft if you just put ur 1k on a light mover your essentially doing the same thing minus a couple thousand lumens.