1st Grow - Client / Server model, perpetual, Top44 & Citral

[ElephantRider]

u should use aqua globes i find them great for when going away

I looked into it, but all the aqua globes in stores are some 3 times bigger than my cups (planning to 100% use cups). Fortunately for me, I found mini aqua globes, which I'll be using for my 2 week vacation this summer.

Since I have no AG's, I took v12's advice (who in their right mind doesn't, right?) and covered my cups after soaking the living hell out of them. Then, I obfuscated my boxes by putting all sorts of other crap in front of them and on top of them.

Also, Really?.. v12 is our local RIU equiv. to Drgreenbudgenes. You MUST look at his grow journal. He's getting 20g yields from computer case perpetual and the plants are BEAUTIFUL.

 

[ElephantRider]

cool man what area you gonna be in FL?

aww that sucks the bud didnt work out but hey you did get roots so maybe its possible.. ill try if i ever get a kinda fresh bud.

haha yea i saw them last year at warped it was sickk i had dropped 1.5 hits of the C20H25N3O. i want to go again this year if i have the money.

your crazy having cops over for dinner.. hope all goes well for you.. good luck.

Hah! Unforunately, all my cousins are with cops. No idea how that happened, but one sheriff, one state, one city. Fuckin' craaazy. I can't just NOT have family over, you know? Also, my house is pretty big, so.. highly unlikely that fuzz would even want to go to the basement.

We'll be heading to Orlando and maybe up by Lake County area for a visit.

 

[ElephantRider]

Beatrice : 42 days, 12/12 21 days, flowering 4 days
Citral #1 : 18/6 42 days
Top44 #2 : 12/12 from seed, 19 days
Citral #2 : 12/12 from seed, 19 days
Bagseed #1 : 12/12 from seed, 19 days
Citral #3: Cloned, 3 days

All plants look healthy, all packed for vaca. The clone I took from Citral #1's topping is looking healthy, as well. I can see roots starting to spread in the glass. I'm just praying it makes it through the week while I'm gone, as there's not a lot of water. I gotta give it a douse before I take off.

All 3 of the 12/12 from seed guys look really astounding. It's amazing to see them catching up in size to Top44 #1, to me. Oddly, I drowned the hell out of them last night and the Citral and the suspected Diesel looked happier! The diesel was totally reaching for the lights! Man, I hope that plant is NYC Diesel, versus Sour. I know I've said it before, but SD gets huge. I've had more SD than NYCD, too.

My seed order is taking forever. 2 days ago, it registered as shipped from the uk. It took nearly a week to ship. Maybe I had some tricky shit to fill. I can't wait for those guys, though. I've got a nice and scoped place for my autos in the backyard already. IN a Hinoki Cypress! I also have single piece stone and concrete planters that look totally natural. I think there's a lot of planting that needs to happen when I'm back.

I'll be reading up while on the road, but no updates. PEACE!

 

[floridasucks]

Hah! Unforunately, all my cousins are with cops. No idea how that happened, but one sheriff, one state, one city. Fuckin' craaazy. I can't just NOT have family over, you know? Also, my house is pretty big, so.. highly unlikely that fuzz would even want to go to the basement.

We'll be heading to Orlando and maybe up by Lake County area for a visit.

haha if they only knew...

weather should be nice around orlando, not to hot not to cold. good luck ..i hope your babies survive while your gone.

 

[ElephantRider]

Thanks, bro. And I'm sure all my related fuzz are somewhat aware of my pastimes. They all know I've been smoking for 20 years. Damn. 20 years. They have told my cousins to simply relay that they don't want to talk to me about that sort of shit at all. Although, I did get a conversation out of one of them - the one that came over - that his force could "give a rat's ass" about pot. They're FAR more interested in meth and crack, since those 2 drain the hell out of our public assistance programs and are the direct cause of MANY crimes.. murders to robberys. I hate that shit. Pain pills, too. No thanks.. I'll only put something in my body that I can actually say 'no' to, if I want. Pot, shrooms, LOTS of lsd, mescaline and mdma / mda has been in me. A couple of instances w/ opium (addictive, I know), but haven't even seen that in a decade. Nowadays, I'll stick to the THC. Maybe some day I'll trip again, but highly unlikely before I retire.

 

[floridasucks]

cool man. thats good to hear from a cop that they dont care about pot.

haha lots of acid here to... but everythings better in moderation.

 

[ElephantRider]

Beatrice : 51 days, 12/12 30 days, flowering 13 days
Citral #1 : 18/6 51 days
Top44 #2 : Hermaphrodite, killed
Citral #2 : 12/12 from seed, 28 days
Bagseed #1 : 12/12 from seed, 28 days
Citral #3: Cloned, 12 days

Quick update just to get the info. in with no pics yet. Beatrice is mammoth. I had to tie her down again and water the hell out of her. The roots had even come up out of the soil looking for water (all of the covered plants did that). After the tie-down, I pruned another front fan to expose more, as that seemed to REALLY work well. Top44 #2 had to meet its demise, as it was so hermie that I don't even need to ask for help. No pods had opened. It was gargantuan, by the way, at only 28 days of 12/12 from seed. It will be cooked with. The Citral #2 and suspected Diesel in 12/12 are both showing N deficiency and did not drink a ton, leaving a little blue-green film on the top of their soil, which I scraped off, and excess water was dumped. Neither is showing sex yet, but I think they'll be coming along soon after I can get them some more veg. nutes for that N - still too damp. Citral #1 is looking amazing after the topping. It's giant and will be tied and double-topped, likely, tomorrow. The Citral clone, alas, was pretty crispy. Leaves were dark. There are some roots showing, though, and stalk had flex, so I watered it last night and this morning and noticed that there was some light green in the cola area today, so I'm not calling it a code just yet. Note to self: need more dirt in the clone planters.

My seeds also came. A++++++ for Attitude. They are the only place I would ever order from again, although, I'm fairly certain my seed purchasing days are done for quite some time. A Passion #1 and a Twilight will be germed tomorrow and I'll be switching back to 24/0 for their seedling phase, as I've read about (and had slight personal experience with) forced sexing with the 24/0 cycle. There are some on here and a couple old grower friends of mine who swear by it.

Last note: the Diesel aroma in Bag1 is pungent. Please be female!!!

 

[v12xjs]

Hey ER
Hope you had a good vacation. Glad to hear everything survived. Sounds like we need a pic update.
Some plants don't drink much. If I need to dry out a pot I sit it on my adjustable power supply. Doesn't seem to harm them.

 

[ElephantRider]

Yeah.. I gotta get some pics up soon. Beatrice is really neat looking, with only half of her leaves. She's got some hairs going amber already and visible trichomes, even! My fingers get sticky when I handle her and she smells CRAAAZY! Serious, v12.. props to you on the filter idea. When I open my cases, it's pungent. When they're closed, it's nothing at all.

Also, for anyone looking to do speedy grows, I cannot recommend the Top44 enough. The hermie I slayed was literally twice as tall as the other 12/12'ers I put in and had assloads of balls and tons of hairs. It was full-on flower and under a month from seed. I've said on here before that I read the smoke sucks. I'll let you know my thoughts on that at a later date.

On a completely unrelated note, I saw a pic of an auto-ak in this month's High Times with a 2 oz. top cola! DAMN, that's big!

 

[Jizmatica]

i heard somewhere that you can just rip the balls of a hermie (bad karma i know) and then they just produce bud

not that i would know (still waiting for my first grow to sprout)

thanks for the tip on the top44 i might try that for my second grow if the smoke is good

keep it up and im lookin forward to the pics

 

[ElephantRider]

Thanks, Jizmatica. There were just too many balls to rip off. They were like ball cluster bombs. There were more boy parts than girl parts, to be sure. Definitely both sexes, though. I'd have taken pics of it, but my camera was packed up with our shit from vaca and I wanted that shit away from my best baby ASAFP. I almost ran down to the local town hall to plant it on the front lawn, but thought better of it. Serious.. it was about 6" high, compared to the other 12/12ers that are about 3" tall, at this point.

I'll tune in on your grow, too. Not for nothing.. it's an older strain and the first true "STRAIN" that I paid attention to way back in '95 or so.. but NL fucking rocks and I'm anxious to see how it fares in a computer case.

 

[ElephantRider]

Beatrice : 55 days, 12/12 34 days, flowering 17 days
Citral #1 : 18/6 55 days
Citral #2 : 12/12 from seed, 32 days
Bagseed #1 : 12/12 from seed, 32 days
Twilight #1: planted
Passion #1 #1: germing

Not a ton new.. still haven't had time to take pics yet. Beatrice is kicking ass. Flowering for 17 days, she's smelling sweet as hell. I put another tie on top just under the top cola and remove the last 2 ties, hoping for a little more even bowing and bud exposure. The bud sites are starting to grow upwards a little bit, so I'm pruning my ass off (carefully) and exposing more and more every day. The sites all have great new growth.. bright green in the center and gorgeous dark green leaves with little sign of stress or spotting. I'm loving this strain, from a cultivation standpoint!

Citral #1 is awesome, too. EFFING GIGANTIC!! The topping did really great things for it. Now, I'm needing to tie it down hard to encourage more horizontal growth around the lip for clones. This plant will be flowered when I go on my big vaca this summer.

Citral clone is dead. Citral #2 and Bagseed #1 were re-potted (sideways stalk, kinda like v12 does it) since they could not drink all that water and are bouncing back. There's some mold on Bag1's stalk.. hoping it dies fast. The N deficiency will take both plants' bottom leaf sets, for sure, but they both show new growth HARD up top since the re-pot. If these 2 make it and are femal, I may have to either clip WAY early and re-veg. or just throw them back in veg. once they show sex. They're taking too long to finish clean before I leave, unfortunately. I have about 8 weeks left, so they gotta flower this week for me to get anything decent at all. Even then, if the one IS Diesel, as I suspect, it'll take longer than 8 weeks, for sure.

Twilight #1 germ'd and was planted in one of my clone glasses to encourage a tighter rootball. Passion #1 #1 was paper toweled yesterday. I want to have some decent babies vegging by the time I hit big vaca at the end of June.

 

[ElephantRider]

So I got paged for work. After that, I grabbed some porn and made a couple clones.

Nite.

 

[ElephantRider]

Beatrice: 56 days, 12/12 35 days, flowering 18 days
Citral #1: 18/6 56 days
Citral #2: 12/12 from seed, 33 days
Citral #3: cloned, 18/6 1 day
Citral #4: cloned, 18/6 1 day
Bagseed #1: 12/12 from seed, 33 days, flowering 1 day
Twilight #1: germed, planted
Passion #1 #1: germed, planted

 

[v12xjs]

Hey ER
Great pics. Beatrice looks awesome for 18 days in. It should be safe to ramp up to full nutes once all the tops are in flower and the height is under control. I go up to 800ppm.
I'm loving your idea of a sativa case too. That's what I would do if I ran a 2nd case.

 

[ElephantRider]

I've been full nutes on Beatrice for a week or so, now. Looking in this am, her leaves are all dark and nice. I moved all of them up towards the lights more for last night's light cycle and they LOVED it. All of Beatrice's buds are frosty, now and got visibly bigger. I'm sensing a big spurt coming. Bag1's CLEARLY female and Citral #2 is SO close to showing sex, but she's got spades in her crotches, so I'm thinking male. No biggy, to me. My 2 Citral clones are looking very healthy. I topped their water levels and upped the humidity. No roots yet, but, as I said, they look very happy and there's still nice bright green growth there. More good news..

TWILIGHT #1 POPPED ABOVE GROUND THIS AM!! I switched the case to 24/0 for the duration of the seedling phase for twilight and passion #1. Maybe for a month or so. I need quieter fans in my veg case.

Blah. 3000-some looks on my thread and nothing for posts. I guess my jabbering scared people off..

 

[v12xjs]

It's great when the frost fairy visits

Don't worry about those post numbers. I cleared my cookies and didn't realise until I viewed my thread and got the number of views instead of the thumbnails themselves. It took me a while to suss it but it seems that most people just download the pics instead of viewing them. That's the only way to explain 100 people viewing my thread in 8 hours but only 4 looked at the pics.

 

[dopewear]

looks freaken great ele keep it up!

 

[ElephantRider]

Thanks, dopewear!

As of this AM, Twilight #1 and Passion #1 #1 are both sprouted and looking great in 24/0. I'm banking on force-sexing them, since I have the box capacity.

 

[dopewear]

force sexing? i just got another female by the way im 2 for 2