Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[EckoSky]

Not a single Lowes or Home depot has the 4" posts anywhere in Colorado. I actually got them pretty cheap including the shipping from NY.

I got 8 5 footers to build my "Stinkbud Max" units. Eight - 4" x 4" x 5foot and 16 end caps shipped to Colorado for 140 total. That works out to 17.50 each and 16 free caps

How do they get shipped, in a cardboard box of some sort, or just wrapped in plastic?

I ask because if you live in an apartment or condo it would look pretty wierd having fence posts delivered.

 

[Delusional]

If its ANYTHING for the construction of a grow room or equipment I would suggest having it shipped elsewhere..... I don't like having anything shipped to my grow location that cannot be explained. Fence posts cannot be explained when living in a apartment complex.

 

[Delusional]

Dude that sux you can't find that post, it took me days and alot of driving looking for it. I just finished my system a few days ago. Breaking the cherry on my new system as I type. Fix most of the leaks and works beautifuly. The only thing that pissed me off is a good cycle timer is 80- 200 bucks

Yeah, honestly out of all the reading and planning thats the one piece that caught me off guard. There wasnt much mentioned about any timers here so by the time I got to the point I needed to obtain one that would cycle so short I nearly shit when I saw the prices.... I ended up going all out and paying $700 for the XGC-1 Extreme Greenhouse Controller which pretty much does everything including repeat cycle timing for the pumps, ventilation control, and even CO2 monitoring so I can keep my room at 1500ppm when lights are on.

 

[mindphuk]

Yeah, honestly out of all the reading and planning thats the one piece that caught me off guard. There wasnt much mentioned about any timers here so by the time I got to the point I needed to obtain one that would cycle so short I nearly shit when I saw the prices.... I ended up going all out and paying $700 for the XGC-1 Extreme Greenhouse Controller which pretty much does everything including repeat cycle timing for the pumps, ventilation control, and even CO2 monitoring so I can keep my room at 1500ppm when lights are on.

I hope you realize it does not monitor CO2 but only controls it by timer. If you want total control, you need a PPM monitor. CAP makes two models, the PPM-1c and PPM-3.

 

[Delusional]

I hope you realize that you are wrong. You're talking about the cheaper model, the CGC-1, Not the XGC-1. The description is shared for both models since they are similar, but the difference IS explained if you keep reading said description. Thanks though!

"The CGC-1 can be upgraded to Part Per Million accuracy by plugging in the PPM-1c CO2 monitor. The CGC-1 is rated for 15 amps @ 120 volts. The XGC-1 has the addition of Fuzzy Logic(tm) CO2 control built in! Fuzzy Logic(tm) can be compared to a good driver. As a good driver approaches a red light, he or she applies the brakes to gradually slow down BEFORE getting to the intersection. Fuzzy Logic(tm) uses the same idea to keep the CO2 level at your desired setting, without going over the set point."


"The XGC combines an extremely accurate infrared CO2 sensor with a state-of –the-art Fuzzy Logic module to give you the most precise
method of controlling supplemental CO2. SIMPLY SET IT… AND FORGET IT!"

link:
http://www.gchydro.com/XGC-1+Xtreme+Greenhouse+Controller+from+C.A.P..html

pdf manual:
http://www.randmsupply.com/images/link/XGC-1eInstructions.pdf


It's okay...... I still love you.

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

YEA bro thats the one im gettin!!!!!!!

 

[Delusional]

YEA bro thats the one im gettin!!!!!!!

Yeah, spent quite some time doing some research. This seemed like the best overall value considering the other modular systems would end up costing well over $1500 or more once all the addons were purchased to complete the very same tasks this will control. Seemed like an easy choice.

 

[repvip]

Sparat1k--thanks for taking an interest in my LED shit! I plan on starting my own thread soon for easier viewing. I post here often enough, but I'm guessing it's too hard to remember the specifics of what all is going on in my neck of the woods. I just need time... In the meantime here is an update.

Pics are mainly of the LED. Some with the other light off, some not. White balance is impossible to adjust with both lights on. I rarely take pictures with the 1000w HPS off, but here are some with just the 350w LED panel gowing. It can give you an idea on the amount of penetration this light puts out. Obviously not as penetrating as traditional HID.

However, incoporating a light mover is most essential with LED and I plan on doing so this week... this should easily triple the growth. This allows me to lower the LED (less coverage, better intensity) and still cover more area.... duh I am very excited for this.

Basic info: utilizing 4 stinkbud flower systems on 2 week rotations. Flower units start on the right, under the LED, and transition left, finishing under the HPS. The 3rd unit, currently, is the first unit to have gotten full LED treatment (meaning 4 weeks under the LED in flower room) and it looks amazing.. Scrog with LED.... super sweet. Lots of bud sites... hope they finish up nicely under the HPS

Don't pay attention to unit 4.. it had an accident and I'm just seeing what develops. Unit 1 was just placed and unit 2 is starting week 3 under the LED.

Finally... I know I showed off this UFO pic before, but seriously. If this doesn't prove what LEDs are capable of (at least in vegetative)... now wait till I show you what they can do for flower. Too bad there isn't a marijuana scientific journal to submit this research too hehe oh and a little more trivia the plants in unit 1 are the same plants from the UFO pic (the last pic with the vegetative unit under the 90w UFO led) but were under the UFO for 2 weeks.

ps - the new stinkbud flush using sweet is most excellent!

 

[Marijuana101]

Can you please email me a list of everything you bought and where I can get it. I am so doing this!!!!!!!!

 

[LionsRoor]

Sparat1k--thanks for taking an interest in my LED shit! I plan on starting my own thread soon for easier viewing. I post here often enough, but I'm guessing it's too hard to remember the specifics of what all is going on in my neck of the woods. I just need time... In the meantime here is an update.

Pics are mainly of the LED. Some with the other light off, some not. White balance is impossible to adjust with both lights on. I rarely take pictures with the 1000w HPS off, but here are some with just the 350w LED panel gowing. It can give you an idea on the amount of penetration this light puts out. Obviously not as penetrating as traditional HID.

However, incoporating a light mover is most essential with LED and I plan on doing so this week... this should easily triple the growth. This allows me to lower the LED (less coverage, better intensity) and still cover more area.... duh I am very excited for this.

Basic info: utilizing 4 stinkbud flower systems on 2 week rotations. Flower units start on the right, under the LED, and transition left, finishing under the HPS. The 3rd unit, currently, is the first unit to have gotten full LED treatment (meaning 4 weeks under the LED in flower room) and it looks amazing.. Scrog with LED.... super sweet. Lots of bud sites... hope they finish up nicely under the HPS

Don't pay attention to unit 4.. it had an accident and I'm just seeing what develops. Unit 1 was just placed and unit 2 is starting week 3 under the LED.

Finally... I know I showed off this UFO pic before, but seriously. If this doesn't prove what LEDs are capable of (at least in vegetative)... now wait till I show you what they can do for flower. Too bad there isn't a marijuana scientific journal to submit this research too hehe oh and a little more trivia the plants in unit 1 are the same plants from the UFO pic (the last pic with the vegetative unit under the 90w UFO led) but were under the UFO for 2 weeks.

ps - the new stinkbud flush using sweet is most excellent!

Nice, Bra! You are growing in the future - LED's will likely be the way we all do it one day... looks like sooner than later, judging from your success. Looks great, keep us posted with pics!

 

[Delusional]

Can you please email me a list of everything you bought and where I can get it. I am so doing this!!!!!!!!

there are detailed instructions and part lists all over this thread. nobody is going to email you information you can find right here

good luck!

 

[LionsRoor]

Yeah, spent quite some time doing some research. This seemed like the best overall value considering the other modular systems would end up costing well over $1500 or more once all the addons were purchased to complete the very same tasks this will control. Seemed like an easy choice.

Love the controller! THE BRAIN!

So... how exactly are you guys going to hook this up with all of your equipment?

So... you wire 240 for the lights, and then you also hardwire 15A circuits for each big device that requires such a load (AC, dehumidifier, exhaust fan), or will you be using some sort of relay to kick the big items on and off?

I ask, as I have been noodling with a similar device from Sentinel - the CHHC-1 - which does not include light timer, etc, but has integrated CO2 sensor. (I do use the CAP ML4X 240 light relay).

I have been letting the AC regulate itself (on a dedicated circuit), but I think I do want the Sentinel to handle that job as the temps have been unpredictable - making a standard timer ineffective at certain times (global warming seems to have made temps more extreme as of late...?). Also - I think I may be exhausting some of my cool AC air before it has a chance to cool the room. So - rather than locking the cooling and humidity, and plugging into my exhaust Vortex, I'm thinking I will plug the AC into cooling, leave the exhaust on dehumid, but split cooling and humidity...

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

Nice find Lion.. the sentinel might be the way i need to go.
The extreme controller has a couple things i dont like.
One is the the cycle timer..its lowest off mode is 12 minutes, rendering it useless for the stink system. Also the 2 outlets for exhaust and or cooling are on the same relay so its either exhaust or AC (cant have both)...my ac unit does not have a thermostat. The sentinel has different outlets for cooling and exhausting,, therefore i would be able to exhaust when humidity gets high and cool when temps get high,, all the while maintaining a co2 setpoint..
Its a big ticket item so i wanna be sure i get what i need.

 

[StinkBud]

Nice find Lion.. the sentinel might be the way i need to go.
The extreme controller has a couple things i dont like.
One is the the cycle timer..its lowest off mode is 12 minutes, rendering it useless for the stink system. Also the 2 outlets for exhaust and or cooling are on the same relay so its either exhaust or AC (cant have both)...my ac unit does not have a thermostat. The sentinel has different outlets for cooling and exhausting,, therefore i would be able to exhaust when humidity gets high and cool when temps get high,, all the while maintaining a co2 setpoint..
Its a big ticket item so i wanna be sure i get what i need.

That's basically what I have but my CO2 sensor is external. All you really need is a CO2 controller.

My A/C has it's own thermostat. Same with my dehumidifier. They don't need to be controlled externally. I have my vent fan attached to my controller and set to go on in an emergency. The Temp is set to 90 and the humidity is set to 65%. The fan never comes on at those settings.

So you need to spend about $400 for a controller but if you have A/C that's all you really need.

 

[StinkBud]

Sparat1k--thanks for taking an interest in my LED shit! I plan on starting my own thread soon for easier viewing. I post here often enough, but I'm guessing it's too hard to remember the specifics of what all is going on in my neck of the woods. I just need time... In the meantime here is an update.

ps - the new stinkbud flush using sweet is most excellent!

Love the pics bro! The plants look really healthy!

So you already tried the Sweet flush method? I can't believe how great it makes the buds taste.

 

[grandpabear3]

so stinkster, my 9x14x8 room with a window unit a.c. and a stand alone dehumidifier would only need a controler for the co2(well, and all the other stuff other than ac and humidity)?

and for your system i'm building. i have to use a 1000 on a light mover. you told me 4 feet ....thanks. i'm wondering how many runs wide i can make it. i want to fill a 3x6 space with as much as possible. so i wanna do em 6' long and however many across you tell me.

on a side not: i'd like to thank you for inspiring me a lil bit. florida doesnt have mmj and we face up to 30 madatory for some. but there is a bit of an underground movement here and i finally met someone and am now providing them with free medicine. i couldnt be more proud. (is that bad karma?)

 

[DIRTHAWKER]

OK so from what i understand, if i have a window ac unit and a standalone dehumidifier...then all i really need is a co2 controller?

My guess is that like you said the ac will probably be running constantly during the warm summer months light cycle? so a timer will suffice? my ac unit does not have a thermostat, just high med and low settings.
and the stand alone dehumidifier will run seperately also.
So adding just a co2 controller will keep my rooms co2 level right?

Does a window ac unit recirculate the air inside the room or will it suck out the co2?

 

[repvip]

Love the pics bro! The plants look really healthy!

So you already tried the Sweet flush method? I can't believe how great it makes the buds taste.

Sure did!

Straight Clonex is good.

50/50 Clonex/Sweet is better.

Straight Sweet is best!

I still flush with fresh water+clearex for a couple hours, then fresh water+sweet for a week. My reservoirs are a bit smaller so I end up using 15mL/gal. When topping off my reservoirs I tend to use Botanicare's recommend 1/3 nutrient rule rather than plain water.. in this fassion I continue to top off with 5ml/gal for the entire week.

It's the tits!

EDIT: Clonex is supposed to read CLEAREX!!

Thanks Lion!!!!!!!!

 

[LionsRoor]

That's basically what I have but my CO2 sensor is external. All you really need is a CO2 controller.

My A/C has it's own thermostat. Same with my dehumidifier. They don't need to be controlled externally. I have my vent fan attached to my controller and set to go on in an emergency. The Temp is set to 90 and the humidity is set to 65%. The fan never comes on at those settings.

So you need to spend about $400 for a controller but if you have A/C that's all you really need.

Yeah, Stink - I have been letting my AC and dehumid regulate themselves, but felt the AC may be working against my exhaust fan under certain conditions... Perhaps, I just need some fine tuning.

Please help me out and give your exact target temp and RH for day and night, in clone, veg, and flower rooms? And, if possible, what your real world min/max temps/RH are? I realize you have stated your room temps in the past - I have read every word you've written - sorry for the repeat question.

My new room is proving to be warm... the house is old and does not have great insulation. Do you guys have to run AC when lights are out? If so, at what temp do you think it necessary?

NOTE: The Sentinel CHHC-1 can be had for about $500 these days!... as the CO2 controller alone was $400, it was an easy jump for me - though I have yet to contol more than my exhaust fan and CO2 gen with it!

 

[LionsRoor]

Sure did!

Straight Clonex is good.

50/50 Clonex/Sweet is better.

Straight Sweet is best!

I still flush with fresh water+clearex for a couple hours, then fresh water+sweet for a week. My reservoirs are a bit smaller so I end up using 15mL/gal. When topping off my reservoirs I tend to use Botanicare's recommend 1/3 nutrient rule rather than plain water.. in this fassion I continue to top off with 5ml/gal for the entire week.

It's the tits!

Clonex? Did ya mean Clearex? I know ya did