ONEeyedWILLY444
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if you can do it go for it. if i could open a seed company i would sell nothing but my own breeds, not that i have any too date but plan on breeding in the future.
Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;
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bicycle racer
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thanks it will be awhile as my problem now is space. currently i have some og clones a tahoe og and hells angel og of good stock from reputable breeders im making some ionized silver and am going to make some s-1's and hells angel og/tahoe og fem crosses with hopefully a bit more vigor than either parent. i going to preserve some pollen also for use on some other fem crosses i made using the rodelization technique they include pre98 bubba kush/larry og and pre98 bubba kush/blue dream both of those crosses are sprouts currently. all seeds germed perfectly though so thats good i still have to test there resilience to stress etc... very tedious and time consuming all plants i use are tried and true clone only plants. i may send out some early batches of seeds to med card carrying friends to test grow to speed up the whole process.
ONEeyedWILLY444
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i had three big buddha blue cheese one i topped and was fine the over two riddled with bananas so i myself dont rate them. plus i had belladonna from paradise and half of what i grew was hermie. companys that did,nt hermie where white label seeds, world of seeds (landraces), and nirvana.
sounds good i wish i could get my own breed into a seedbank so the world can taste my shit.me and a friend are looking for some cheese clones so we can cross it with something we already have, too make our own strain hoping its gonna be a killer.
kremnon
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RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS
Heres an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.
by SOMA
Wed, Jul 30, 2003 12:00 am
more: grow articles, soma, breeding, seed company, strains
Story by Soma
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you cant treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.
To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.
For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop thats already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If youre one of those growers whos never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.
Heres an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.
by SOMA
Wed, Jul 30, 2003 12:00 am
more: grow articles, soma, breeding, seed company, strains
Story by Soma
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you cant treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.
To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.
For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop thats already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If youre one of those growers whos never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.
raiderman
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i'm sure because i jus did 16 big buddah b. cheese and all mine were very doin consistant,no hermies,,excellent weed.doin another 16 presently.
ONEeyedWILLY444
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mared juwan
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Hey Hobbes, I just planted all 5 seeds from a Green House fem mix pack. It was the Indica Mix H (GreatWhiteShark, Lemon Skunk, White Rhino, Trainwreck, Cheese). I'll report back in a couple months with the results.
If its a bad thing for reviving a topic that hasn't been posted in for 2 weeks, my bad...My first post here as well.
I've been looking at Nirvana's feminized strains, AK-48, Aurora Indica, and Papaya to be specific. This will be my first time ordering seeds, as I'm tired of growing bagseed to save a few bucks. Basically I just wanna know if anyone has experience with Nirvana's female seeds, mainly if they went hermie, or not. Many Thanks.
I've been looking at Nirvana's feminized strains, AK-48, Aurora Indica, and Papaya to be specific. This will be my first time ordering seeds, as I'm tired of growing bagseed to save a few bucks. Basically I just wanna know if anyone has experience with Nirvana's female seeds, mainly if they went hermie, or not. Many Thanks.
Hobbes
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"If its a bad thing for reviving a topic that hasn't been posted in for 2 weeks, my bad"
No worries Junker, I sometimes post a response in a thread and afterwards see that the last post was 2 years old. I know nothing about Nirvana fem seeds but someone should be along who's grown plants from them.
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"I just planted all 5 seeds from a Green House fem mix pack. It was the Indica Mix H (GreatWhiteShark, Lemon Skunk, White Rhino, Trainwreck, Cheese). I'll report back in a couple months with the results."
Excellent! I've got Trainwreck out of that mix, the White Rhino wasn't in stock when I ordered or I would have gotten that strain too.
Let's keep up posting about Greenhouse, they're claiming 0 (yes Zero) hermies. I'm going to germ a Greenhouse strain as soon as my Super Strawberry Diesel and Flo go into flower. I believe I'll go with Trainwreck - I'd like a strain that'll send me spinning - My Greenhouse fem seeds: Alaskan Ice; Arjan's Haze #3; Big Bang; Super Silver Haze and Trainwreck.
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The Barney's Red Diesel stopped producing bananas completely since I harvested the top 1/2. Not a single banana. I'm letting the bottom part of the plant fill out, RD isn't a great multiharvester like Bubblegum but it has filled out some.
The Barney's RD clone in the Aquamist is producing flowers, to young yet to see bananas but I've sprayed it with Reverse 3 times during transation (including the roots) and will hit it again tonight.
The two Bubblegum and the two Big Laughing haven't had a banana, very stable. All three full size Kali Mist are perfect.
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No worries Junker, I sometimes post a response in a thread and afterwards see that the last post was 2 years old. I know nothing about Nirvana fem seeds but someone should be along who's grown plants from them.
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"I just planted all 5 seeds from a Green House fem mix pack. It was the Indica Mix H (GreatWhiteShark, Lemon Skunk, White Rhino, Trainwreck, Cheese). I'll report back in a couple months with the results."
Excellent! I've got Trainwreck out of that mix, the White Rhino wasn't in stock when I ordered or I would have gotten that strain too.
Let's keep up posting about Greenhouse, they're claiming 0 (yes Zero) hermies. I'm going to germ a Greenhouse strain as soon as my Super Strawberry Diesel and Flo go into flower. I believe I'll go with Trainwreck - I'd like a strain that'll send me spinning - My Greenhouse fem seeds: Alaskan Ice; Arjan's Haze #3; Big Bang; Super Silver Haze and Trainwreck.
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The Barney's Red Diesel stopped producing bananas completely since I harvested the top 1/2. Not a single banana. I'm letting the bottom part of the plant fill out, RD isn't a great multiharvester like Bubblegum but it has filled out some.
The Barney's RD clone in the Aquamist is producing flowers, to young yet to see bananas but I've sprayed it with Reverse 3 times during transation (including the roots) and will hit it again tonight.
The two Bubblegum and the two Big Laughing haven't had a banana, very stable. All three full size Kali Mist are perfect.
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Reeny
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Have two Lemon Skunk from Greenhouse going atm. One is close to harvest (9Weeks) and the other has about two more weeks. No signs of bananas on either on. Easy grow and amazing smelling plants. Smoke report to follow in a few weeks 
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Also have a White Rhino in flowering with about 2 1/2 weeks till harvest. No problems with that one either. Was a slow starter for me but sure looks pretty now.
.Also have a White Rhino in flowering with about 2 1/2 weeks till harvest. No problems with that one either. Was a slow starter for me but sure looks pretty now.
raiderman
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thats wat i wanna hear.i want feminized seeds jus want good stable hybrids .got 15 femiized b.cheese big buddah , second grow,unbelievable for 50.00 for 10 beans,well underrated plant.doin a few pacs of querkle nex.grow on bro.update a pic if you would.Have two Lemon Skunk from Greenhouse going atm. One is close to harvest (9Weeks) and the other has about two more weeks. No signs of bananas on either on. Easy grow and amazing smelling plants. Smoke report to follow in a few weeks
Also have a White Rhino in flowering with about 2 1/2 weeks till harvest. No problems with that one either. Was a slow starter for me but sure looks pretty now.
bellairedude
Active Member
Ive got greenhouse white shark, rhino and trainwreck goin. Woke up this morning and noticed the wreck has balls. I dont even see pistols yet it might be a straight up male. 100% bullshit.
raiderman
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mine hermied couple yrs ago or so.so i immediately changed seed breeders, never looked bak,,sorry about that.i'm doin 15 bluecheese fem,las grow perfect all 16 ,, they are showing hairs like a eg fem. big buddah is the way to go.also threads on flying dutchman are excellent as well,, i have two pacs of blueberry skunk fem.but i'm goin bak to reg seeds to be safe though.
raiderman
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not the cheese,but the blue cheese,yea every plant on las grow beautiful,no real runts,, bes deal for 50.00 for 10 good stable beans and good yielder.weed is very strong.sweet to taste.
bicycle racer
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a rabbit with pancakes on its head lol the things us smokers do with animals hilarious.
mared juwan
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Yea I don't know what to believe when it comes to seeds and strains anymore. 1/2 people say Green House is great, very reputable breeder of the finest strains. The other 1/2 say they are shit, don't ever buy. I guess like with most of the rest of the stuff you need to know about growing you just have to figure it out for yourself. My GH seedlings did start off kind of slow but they are all doing great now. Still in veg but growing fast.
I also got the GH "Sativa Mix" which is basically all of their hazes. Since we're evaluating Green House I should mention that I originally germed six beans. All 5 from the Mix H and the Super Silver Haze from the Sativa Mix. The Mix H beans all cracked in 1 day and had 1/2 inch tap roots by day 2. The SSH took 3 days to crack even though it was the biggest seed by far. Then its tap root grew very slowly and it wasn't until 6 days after the beginning of germ that I finally planted it. It never made it out of the ground. So that sucked because I was probably most interested in the SSH out of all of them.
ONEeyedWILLY444
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it piss,s you off. you pay good money for good seeds and get complete and utter shit. i got 2 big buddha blue cheese that are hermie and had too cut one down early. i would,nt trust greenhouse anymore they are a set of cum drinking queers and over the past three years there genetics/seeds have become fucked. every other guy tells how there greenhouse seeds grow has gone tits up due too hermies/males. all greenhouse seeds do is say they are the best so people think they are (theyre not).
and i hate the way that arjan names all them strains after himself as if he is the highest athourity on weed. i would never buy fuck all with that pricks name on it.
sorry if i am sounding a bit too angry but there is a reason for this. you see i was a devoted greenhouse seeds grower then one year i get a couple of bananas popping out of my himalayan gold, i thought nothing of it ripped the few off and carried on. then the next grow of himalayan my three plants had three different pheno,s. one was so bad that after 12 weeks of flowering it was mostly leaf and hardly any bud(what the fuck). then next grow was big bang bought ten seeds only 6 cracked no hermies but a serious loss considering my seeds where fem. then finally my latest crop greenhouse white widow FULL OF BANANAS AND SEEDS WTF. so thats it for me i gave them many chances.
and i hate the way that arjan names all them strains after himself as if he is the highest athourity on weed. i would never buy fuck all with that pricks name on it.
sorry if i am sounding a bit too angry but there is a reason for this. you see i was a devoted greenhouse seeds grower then one year i get a couple of bananas popping out of my himalayan gold, i thought nothing of it ripped the few off and carried on. then the next grow of himalayan my three plants had three different pheno,s. one was so bad that after 12 weeks of flowering it was mostly leaf and hardly any bud(what the fuck). then next grow was big bang bought ten seeds only 6 cracked no hermies but a serious loss considering my seeds where fem. then finally my latest crop greenhouse white widow FULL OF BANANAS AND SEEDS WTF. so thats it for me i gave them many chances.