Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;

"dont know if anyone else has had the pleasure of getting feminized bagseed, but now i'm at the point where i wish i had a male, i'd hate to lose these genes with a cloning fuckup or something."

Me, my first grow, seeds a friend had swiped from his father's drawer 15 years earlier, incredible clear euphoric sativa high, didn't know how to clone, lost the genes.

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i guess what im saying is if i were to make a pre98 bubba female clone produce pollen with c.s. or g.a. not stress and then selfed it the resulting seeds would have a higher herm ratio than say if that same bubba pollen was used to pollinate an entirely unrelated female clone like blue dream creating hybrid vigor and more stress resistance. those crossed fem seed would have less herm percentages than the selfed pre98 bubba would. does that make sense? the funny thing is many breeders feel one way or the other about this i think it should not matter if the fems are crosses or s-1's what matters is the level of stress resistant traits of the plants used to make and receive the fem pollen. i think the key with fem seeds is to pre stress a test clone of the strain you want to use to make fem seeds. if it herms from stress easily it is not a good candidate for chemically producing fem pollen as the offspring will herm easily also. if your making fem crosses the other strain would also need to be stress tested( llight poisoniong etc..) for stability before using in a cross. i think if one is careful with picking strong stress resistant candidates for fem seeds selfing or crosses should both be relatively herm free.

ive grown bagseed fems i grew some great abusive og kush and master og kush from herm grows but when i grew them they showed no bannanas lucky me. i sometimes buy seeded bud from dispensaries of good strains as i know there herm/fem seeds in doing this i have been lucky but ive heard horror stories as well.

The Red Diesel mother in pro mix and clone in RDWC are both still producing bananas. I've given them their 3rd dose of Reverse tonight, it slows the banana growth for a few days but I've never had a plant where Reverse reversed the hermaphrodism.

I put another RD clone in RDWC last week, at 5". I sprayed both the leaves and the roots with Reverse before putting it in 12/12 and again for a second time tonight. I'm not sure if it'll help with hermieing but I think it's stunting the growth of the clone, making it branch out and not grow tall. That was eloquent.

So far Barney's Red Diesel has been the worst hermier of the 3 fem strains (RD, Blueberry, Strawberry Cough)

The last two Strawberry Cough clones were harvested virtually banana free throughout flower, very heartening.

DP Blueberry fem kept producing banans until I chopped it, slower rate than Barney's Red Diesel fem.

All of the regular control strains are growing perfectly - not a banana to be seen (I'd be ashamed), yield is good, lots of trichs, ripening regularly. Bubblegum (Serious) is one beautiful plant, amazing production of top tier bud, bag appeal through the roof.

I'll be putting the Dutch Passion Taiga fem autoflower into 12/12 this week, the DP Flo fem will be another week or two. Big Bang (Greenhouse) is on deck to be germed next, then Blue Moonshine (Dutch Passion). I'll alternate the Greenhouse strains with the others - see if Greenhouse is herm free (as talked about online) while the other breeder's strains hermie.

Anyone have ideas I can try on the next RD clone? It'll be my hermie control strain, I'll assume the clones will hermie if I don't interviene.

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Hobbes said:

I sprayed my feminized seed plants with Reverse again last night - after the first dose of Reverse last week both the Red Diesel and Blueberry's bananas dried up for a few days, then came back at a slower rate - a half dozen to a dozen each day. I picked the bananas every day this week before re-spraying last night, there were no bananas grown back this morning.

The Red Diesel clone in RDWC had only a couple of bananas for the whole week, amazing difference from it's mother in Pro Mix. The two Strawberry Cough clones in RDWC have produced no bananas 8 weeks into flower, while all other SC clones and the SC mother have hermied in past grows.

My control plants from regular seeds - Big Laughing, Bubblegum and Kali Mist - are all flowering perfectly. The 2 BL are at 7 weeks (1 pro mix, 1 RDWC); the two BG are at 8 weeks (both pro mix); and the Kali Mist is at 4 weeks (pro mix). My growing seems OK, at least for not overly stressing the plants.

I'm doing a preemptive spray on the next Red Diesel clone going into flower this weekend. I want to see if a few small doeses of Reverse during transition into flower will keep the plant from hermieing, rather than using a lot of Reverse to stop a hermie 4 or 5 weeks into flower. This Red Diesel clone is a good test since the mother and first clone hermied so excessively.

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You keep saying "bananas" don't you mean pods? From everything I have experienced bananas are formed by a female when it is grown past it's peak ripeness and the pollen in them would be the stuff to use to make TRUE feminized seeds,..... But I didn't know hermies would put out bananas especially in their earlier growth..........?

I've had my share of F2 hermies over the years and I've never seen a pod - like those seen on male plants. The bananas grow individually or in bunches inside the buds, turn yellow and curve like a banana.

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i have seen pods and female pistils on a bagseed grow of unknown strain i think you could call that a true genetic herm the seeds were standard male females not femmed. otherwise i mostly just see a few bannanas late in flower on some clones never seen full pods on a true female.

bicycle racer said:

i have seen pods and female pistils on a bagseed grow of unknown strain i think you could call that a true genetic herm the seeds were standard male females not femmed. otherwise i mostly just see a few bannanas late in flower on some clones never seen full pods on a true female.

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Heres my experience with HERMIES i have had BANANAS from REGULAR seeds when leaving the buds to ripen thres been pollen inside these sacks?.My argument is this they all seem to do this its their own NATURES way of surviving which you all probable know this when theres only females somehow they can tell so they do this to carry on there life cycle.To me Bananas are a part of ripening its When you flip the clock to 12/12 and when the buds are developing at that stage you should be able to tell or see male/female flowers together if they are Hermie's.Honest if i dont see them at the begging of the first 3weeks of 12/12 then to me they are ok unless they are excessive(heavily seede with bananas) toward the end are they not wanted.I atm am on some Crimea Blue from BARNEY'S and they all seem all female so far so good and i no i will probaly pick if i have to but i dont mind this at all.Like someone said this is good for someone like myself who cannot clone or does not have a 18/6 grow.And its a great way if you want to try plenty of strains.But however if i had the facilities of having a good major grow i would be patient and deal with regular.Female seeds make it alot easyer for the ruky grower who likes to taste many strains.But ya pro's go with regular all the way well i would anyway.kiss-ass

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Heres my experience with HERMIES i have had BANANAS from REGULAR seeds when leaving the buds to ripen thres been pollen inside these sacks?.My argument is this they all seem to do this its their own NATURES way of surviving which you all probable know this when theres only females somehow they can tell so they do this to carry on there life cycle.To me Bananas are a part of ripening its When you flip the clock to 12/12 and when the buds are developing at that stage you should be able to tell or see male/female flowers together if they are Hermie's.Honest if i dont see them at the begging of the first 3weeks of 12/12 then to me they are ok unless they are excessive(heavily seede with bananas) toward the end are they not wanted.I atm am on some Crimea Blue from BARNEY'S and they all seem all female so far so good and i no i will probaly pick if i have to but i dont mind this at all.Like someone said this is good for someone like myself who cannot clone or does not have a 18/6 grow.And its a great way if you want to try plenty of strains.But however if i had the facilities of having a good major grow i would be patient and deal with regular.Female seeds make it alot easyer for the ruky grower who likes to taste many strains.But ya pro's go with regular all the way well i would anyway.kiss-ass

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finishd a crop ofblue moonshine feminized seeds and hermiedin the 4 to 6 week. picked off the male bananas through off. got 17 seeds total out of 7 plants. 14 dry oz.real purple in my avitar.go with big buddah ,flying dutchman, paradise seeds,Dna genetics feminized,to nbame a few. . dutch passion hermied on me twice in a row wen under optimum conditions,, the other was orange bud.

raiderman have you done any Greenhouse strains? Big Bang? I'm doing a fem BB next and hope it's not as bad as Barney's RD.

I gave my 6 late flowering plants a full dose of Kool Bloom and a half dose of Cha Ching, with no other nutes - (except supplements Hygrozyme, Liquid Karma and Dark Energy - which I feed every watering) - the Red Diesel mother in pro mix popped bananas everywhere, one of the Bubblegum late in it's 9th week popped up 3 bananas, the other Bubblegum was clean and the two Big Laughing (9 weeks) were rock solid as expected. The 2 BL look like someone vandelized them with a bag of iceing sugar.

The Red Diesel clone 2 weeks into 12/12 in RDWC is 10" from a start of 5", very healthy but no buds starting yet. The Bubblegum is 12" from 5". The two Kali Mist clones flowered the week before at 5" are 27" and 30" with bud sites at each node.

I put 2 Kali Mist and 1 Bubblegum in flower at 4", and 1 Kali Mist at 2" tonight to see if I can get a more manageble height.


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I've just pulled 2 hermies and 3 full blown males from my greenhouse grow.
Himilaya gold gave me the males and Great White Shark gave me hermies.

dannyking said:

I've just pulled 2 hermies and 3 full blown males from my greenhouse grow.
Himilaya gold gave me the males and Great White Shark gave me hermies.

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yea dutch passion and greenhouse seeds suk wen it comes to feminized.youd thgink theyd be up with the bes,, hell tryin to pass hermie seeds to us,assholes.kiss-ass

Sorry have i miss understood you MALES

thats odd that the breeders fems herm out ive grown many fem that were from hermed bagseeds with no problems at all go figure.

I did too b.r. My first grow was from bag seed a friend had swiped from his father's stash about 12 years before. Out of about a hundred seeds 12 germed and were all female, a sativa I now know, and not a banana nor seed produced by any of the 12.

I've done 3 feminized strains by established breeders and every plant hermied.

Go figure.

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The bananas on the Red Diesel have virtually dried up - a half dozen a day at most - and I feed with Kool Bloom which stresses the plant into producing more resin (supposedly) which produced massive banana population last feeding. Bubblegum and Big Laughing rock solid as expected.

So, either the Reverse is working or towards the end of a hermie's life it stops producing bananas. Or something else.

I've been out of OverDive and my order came in the mail yesterday - I've put the RDWC Big Laughing in a bath of it and I'm going to soak all of the dirt plants tomorrow when the pots dry up. See if OD has any effect on the Red Diesel hermie that it doesn't have on the good strains. (ZING!)

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i have two greenhouse white widow both hermie one is not too bad but the other was fuckin riddled with bananas. and my last grow i had three himalayan gold thats genetics are totally all over the place when they where flowering looked like three different strains one of which had bananas on the main bud. greenhouse fuck with there shit too much. and i really did,nt like big bang at all. that said i do think greenhouse have some amazing strains shame about the fuck ups

pre stress testing of females considered for breeding to check for herm tendencies is the key. if a strain resists herming from light stress fert stress temp stress etc.. it is a good candidate for making fem pollen through chemical means. i think some 'pro breeders' dont do things properly. i myself plan on starting a seed business when i do i will make proper fem seeds and regular seeds of clone only genetics.

"i will make proper fem seeds and regular seeds of clone only genetics."

I'd like to RSVP for your first commercial offering, hats off to you!

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Hobbes said:

"i will make proper fem seeds and regular seeds of clone only genetics."

I'd like to RSVP for your first commercial offering, hats off to you!

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would like to let you know there are some good female seed breeders. big buddah. did 16 in 2 gal. container, no hermie pure female .flying dutchman, paradise seeds. thier good, but dutch passion and greenhouse seeds females suk big ones,lol.kiss-ass