Thundercat's Groooooooow
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Thundercat
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Thanks gypsy, its pretty nice smoke! I like the WW more still, but I was really pleased with the sativas in the end. Shit I got over a lb off the 4 plants, I was pleased for sure. I can't wait, just about 3 more weeks, and I'll be putting all these WW clones I've got into flower, and getting my next setup running!
Thundercat
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Well guys, Its been awhile since I posted. I've been brain storming like crazy on what my next set up is gonna look like. I'm about 90% certain about my plans so far. I believe I'm gonna get a killer deal on some 2x4 flood trays, like $30 each. I'll throw some 35 gallon rubber maids under them for the rezs. I'm going to arrange these trays into a 6x6 square. That will leave a 2x2 square open in the middle. I'm gonna get a sunsoaker reflector for my 1000w, and use a fan blowing up from that 2x2 area to cool it. I think that with a 48 inch reflector, I'll get pretty decent light coverage over the 6x6 garden. I'll prolly put about 12-16 plants per tray, we'll see how big they get with 2-3 weeks veg time before they go under the 1000w. I'm gonna top them in veg, to try to get 2-3 main colas on each plant. I'm gonna hope for a half lb per tray hell if I get a quarter lb per tray I might be a bit bummed, but it will be enough o keep it running, and I'll get it tuned in! I'm figuring that with the sunsoaker I'll want to get an AC to keep it cool in there, so what do you guys think of this one I found? http://www.air-n-water.com/product/ac-10000e.htm It seemed pretty nice, and I figured it would be big enough to handle an 8x8 or 10x10 room without a problem. I figured this would also handle my humidity problem I had this grow too! Well thats about where I'm at I think. Any ideas for me, feel free to post them, cus I'm still brain storming, but I think this is the plan! Peace guys TC!
420weedman
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Here are the pictures that I promised. I can't tell you which ones are purple power and which are skunk because my gf mixed them up when she poured them onto the table.
http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp301/thundercat_420
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awesome man ! im down for a RIU blunt
Thundercat
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Well Weedman I guarantee if it ever happens, you my friend have a standing invite!
GypsyBush
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Hey TC...
The last time I opened my mouth.. I almost lost some friends... so I am VERY hesitant to say anything...
But... I am not sure I like your idea...
You will be deeming un-use-able the area that would be getting the most light...
I, personally, would want to take advantage of the bright center...
And leave any open slots out in the less brightly lit corners...
But that is just my opinion... nothing else...
The last time I opened my mouth.. I almost lost some friends... so I am VERY hesitant to say anything...
But... I am not sure I like your idea...
You will be deeming un-use-able the area that would be getting the most light...
I, personally, would want to take advantage of the bright center...
And leave any open slots out in the less brightly lit corners...
But that is just my opinion... nothing else...
Thundercat
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I had considered that gypsy, and I don't take offense to your input man. I'm seriously considering using 3 tables for flowering, and one of the tables for vegging. I could run 3 weeks per table, and put the 3 tables right next to each other under the 1000w. It would be like a 6x4 foot print then. The biggest thing is that I'm trying to get the MOST out of my 1000w. BUt like you pointed out, that doesn't include wasting the light directly in the center. What do you think of the 4x6 footprint, 3 trays next to each other. Do you think a regular reflector would be able to handle that kinda of coverage area, or should I stick with the sunsoaker idea? As I've said, I've been brainstorming constantly for the last week, trying to figure out what will provide the best outcome. Did you look at that AC unit I left the link too? I'm hoping that should handle any heat issues, and humidity problems. So this seem like a more efficient plan gypsy?
GypsyBush
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Hey TC...
Well.. Al B Fuct's trays are 900x900mm or about 35.4" square... and he arranges them as such...
70.8" is a little less than 6'... but I am not sure your trays are exact either...
If you were to arrange your taller plants on the ends... and trying to get a little bit of that "vert" edge... it might work...
Keep in mind though that Al, kept small plants, and the light penetrates much better when all you have is colas sticking out of pots... not sure if this would be enough for bushes...
Well.. Al B Fuct's trays are 900x900mm or about 35.4" square... and he arranges them as such...
70.8" is a little less than 6'... but I am not sure your trays are exact either...
If you were to arrange your taller plants on the ends... and trying to get a little bit of that "vert" edge... it might work...
Keep in mind though that Al, kept small plants, and the light penetrates much better when all you have is colas sticking out of pots... not sure if this would be enough for bushes...
GypsyBush
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as for the AC...
I know nothing of those things... I have access to freezing air 9 months of the year...
But have you considered one of those iceboxes..?
If you could actually make it work like it's supposed to ... you would eliminate your need for AC and also give you the tool for a sealed room, prime for co2..
Take a peek...
http://www.hydroinnovations.com/
I know nothing of those things... I have access to freezing air 9 months of the year...
But have you considered one of those iceboxes..?
If you could actually make it work like it's supposed to ... you would eliminate your need for AC and also give you the tool for a sealed room, prime for co2..
Take a peek...
http://www.hydroinnovations.com/
Thundercat
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I thought that was about how Al was set up. It looks like his garden is right around 6x6, but he's got 2 1000s, I suppose 3x6 per 1000w. So I think the 4x6 should work out ok. I've thought about getting another light, but its really not in the budget.
I'm gonna try a couple things I think. I'm gonna give the single cola girls a go, and pack as many into the tray as I can prolly about 30. I'm also gonna try about 15 in a tray that have vegged for maybe 2 weeks, and have 2 main colas. I'm also gonna try like 8 plants in a tray(1 per square ft) that have vegged for 3 weeks, and have 2-3 main colas. Then I can see exactly what kind of yield I get from each tray since all the other factors should be about identical. I think the plan is finally coming together. I appreciate the help man. Honestly I gotta make sure the place still has all this gear, or the plan might change again, lol. I'm gonna give them a call. PEace TC
I'm gonna try a couple things I think. I'm gonna give the single cola girls a go, and pack as many into the tray as I can prolly about 30. I'm also gonna try about 15 in a tray that have vegged for maybe 2 weeks, and have 2 main colas. I'm also gonna try like 8 plants in a tray(1 per square ft) that have vegged for 3 weeks, and have 2-3 main colas. Then I can see exactly what kind of yield I get from each tray since all the other factors should be about identical. I think the plan is finally coming together. I appreciate the help man. Honestly I gotta make sure the place still has all this gear, or the plan might change again, lol. I'm gonna give them a call. PEace TC
Thundercat
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I was actually checking them out yesterday at the same time as AC. Unfortunately they aren't cheap, and you have to buy a chiller, and I also wouldn't have a way to hook it up to a sunsoaker reflector. If I don't get an AC I still have to get a dehumidifier. I was planning on pulling the air for the AC from my veg room, so when I decided to add CO2 it would stay in the flower room.
Thundercat
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I just want to get a system going that has a faster turn over. If higher numbers is how I have to do it for now then so be it. I am trying to stew together a recipe for success that I can afford on my budget.
GypsyBush
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If you don;t mind high plant numbers, it's hard to beat a zero veg SOG TC...
I am being honest with you...
EVERY BUD is a cola... and more of each plant is in full light...
Just think of it... zero veg...
Keep your moms... to keep whatever strains you want... or clone from your clones, no moms...
Whichever way... SOG is just efficient...
any runts can be removed and replaced with healthy clones...
It's your decision bro...
But in my op, with 1200w, I can get a pound a month...
In fact, I may keep 1200w as SOG until I have this tree thing down...
Anyways... this is how I get in trouble...
Thundercat
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Don't get me wrong gypsy I'm deffinitly gonna try a tray of zero veg clones.
I was considering if I could find one cheap maybe getting a 3 ft rail , to ensure that I had full light coverage on the garden. I'm aiming for a half to a full lb per tray, harvesting one tray every three weeks. I don't think that is to high of a goal.
I was considering if I could find one cheap maybe getting a 3 ft rail , to ensure that I had full light coverage on the garden. I'm aiming for a half to a full lb per tray, harvesting one tray every three weeks. I don't think that is to high of a goal.
GypsyBush
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I can see 2lbs per 1k...
3 trays at .5lbs = 1.5... so yeah totally...
And you can do that first run of you have all f your environmental and nutes sorted...
Oh .. and by no means am I saying that zero veg lollipops is the only way to do it...
it's the zero veg part that makes it more efficient...
I feed 2400w with hundreds of clones from a 400w t5.....
...
So.. have you decide what nutes you are going to use?
3 trays at .5lbs = 1.5... so yeah totally...
And you can do that first run of you have all f your environmental and nutes sorted...
Oh .. and by no means am I saying that zero veg lollipops is the only way to do it...
it's the zero veg part that makes it more efficient...
I feed 2400w with hundreds of clones from a 400w t5.....
...
So.. have you decide what nutes you are going to use?
Thundercat
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lol, nutes thats another variable.
Well I still have a bunch of fox farms nutes, including the solubles. So I was considering using the fox farms. I may change my mind still, I have considered going with a simple 2 part or something, but I figured I'd give the fox farms a try since I already had it. Any good suggestions? You think I'll have any problems with the fox farms? I've considered going to botanicaire, or maybe dutchmasters. I have been pretty happy with the fox farms though.
Well I still have a bunch of fox farms nutes, including the solubles. So I was considering using the fox farms. I may change my mind still, I have considered going with a simple 2 part or something, but I figured I'd give the fox farms a try since I already had it. Any good suggestions? You think I'll have any problems with the fox farms? I've considered going to botanicaire, or maybe dutchmasters. I have been pretty happy with the fox farms though.
bigtomatofarmer
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If it aint broke, dont fix it!!
I actually love Fox Farm. I am a big suporter for anyone who can afford their stuff.
I'd stick with what you have, thats just my opinion.
Oh and also, you gotta do a journal with your new set up when you finally get everything together.
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Thundercat
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I figured I would use the fox farms until I ran out, or had a problem. Then if I want to change I will.
As far as a journal goes, we'll see. So far I don't even know when or if I"m gonna have internet at the new place.
As far as a journal goes, we'll see. So far I don't even know when or if I"m gonna have internet at the new place.