TreesOfLife
Well-Known Member
Why because I don't waste my time arguing with you, and put the info out there to let someone with an open mind figure it out for themselves. You claim to have an open mind but have not proved this yet...
PVS
Active Member
either someone is in 100% agreement with you on all counts or they are "sheeple". how can one wall themselves off from anyone who would disagree in the slightest and then have the nerve to label others as "close minded"?
TreesOfLife
Well-Known Member
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
But you don't realize the info you put out is garbage, and you don't even try to defend it when it gets called out. But yet you try to act very superior like your in the know, and everyone else is lapdogs.Why because I don't waste my time arguing with you, and put the info out there to let someone with an open mind figure it out for themselves. You claim to have an open mind but have not proved this yet...
I try to always help people see the facts instead of just spooking them. You follow the right media like they are your jesus. Eventually though you may do some actual research and realize that they are using you because of your blind faith.
medicineman
New Member
All Bullshit aside, the facts are: the right is for business in general, and the left in general is for people. So here is the question. Are you a businessman? If so you must be on the right, in general. If you are just a workerbee, most likely you are on the left, unless you are brainwashed or just plain stupid. People that watch FOX news are brainwashed against all things Obama, 24/7. They have basically killed the public option health care that would level the playing field for medical care, this is a tragedy for people and a big win for the insurance companies. People 0, insurance companies 10. When you vote next time remember who it was that killed the peoples medical plan and show them the road.
TreesOfLife
Well-Known Member
You live in LA LA LAND..................I said I don't watch tv. I get alot of news myself from Googling and using the NEWS tab(yes i get some from alex jones too he does say check it out for yourself don't just blindly follow). I don't act superior I am FAR from perfect. Remember they opress one group they opress us all.
Operation 420
Well-Known Member
The left is for people? So creating welfare programs that don't help people get ahead, is helping? Keeping people dependent on the government is helping them?
If Obama wanted to regulate health care by making sure an Aspirin didn't cost 50 dollars, I'd be on board. But he wants the government to get into the insurance business. Not acceptable.
Keep on thinking democrats are helping people by keeping them right where they are, the bottom.
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
It is called an insurance co-pay. So you can get the expensive drugs you need and not pay the insane prices without it, heck I think that walmart has $3 co-pays. So those drugs that cost well over $300 bucks a pop, only cost $3.
Insurance is a way to make sure that he didn't have to have the government try to take over hospitals and pharmacy.
And it is 1 plan. He is not taking over the industry.
But the information your getting is directly from the right wing media even if via the internet. You may not know it is, but that is where it starts. That is why you get grouped with it.
Now I disagree with the right is for business and left for the people in general. But for the last 30 years that was how it was sold to us (Clinton was a dem of course, but in a all republican house and senate). This is the first time the Dems have been in power since the 70's.
But that being said, now everyone is all of a sudden libertarian, which is just the rebranded republican party. They want to seperate from being "the man" too and this is how they are doing it. By using the dems tactics for the last 6 years.
I am sounding like a broken record, but we all need to wake up and elect the best people for the job. I know Ron Pauls stance, and he could be a good pres if he actually follows it, and I know Kusinichs stance, and he could be a good pres.
So instead of on mass voting for the people most likely to win we need to scrap that and start to vote for the BEST people. If kusinich and paul were the nominees we would have been able to vote for the best person without regard to political party.
But Obama is at least trying to help out the poor then working his way up the chain. Everyone likes to jump on him being NWO and all on this site, but remember when he was called a "radical" and going to give all the money too the poor? How can that be the case, how can someone be for the poor while at the same time trying to give all the money to the elite? It doesn't fit.
He is in the middle, done a lot of cruddy things to get into the senate, but at least he is stirring the pot and moving the money around from one area that is a waste and over to another area that is in need of help. At least he is not trying to keep the statis quo that we all know is too far removed to help us out.
Operation 420
Well-Known Member
I'm not talking about prescriptions. I'm talking about what you're charged for things while in the hospital.
TreesOfLife
Well-Known Member
PROOF QUIT STRAWMANNING... You a Conniving Ninny!
Until you prove anything that has been posted do not quote me without proof please. Links and facts not your OPINION.
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
Ok. Here is proof. That "bill" that was cut and pasted on page 86 was directly off of this website, infact this is the exact link http://www.therightmovement.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=426:update-hr-3200-every-american-needs-to-know&catid=207:AmericanPiePROOF QUIT STRAWMANNING... You a Conniving Ninny!
And you kept arguing about the health care insurance bill like you knew about it. The information you were arguing is from websites like that.
The things that you post, and the wording you use is completely theirs.
But w/e you don't care, just like I would not have when I used to argue that Michael Moore said was the truth. See you are as ignorant as I was then.
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chitownsmoking
Guest
see the thing with government is most people are stupid or weak, or both and need someone to defend them or w/e the fuck. way too many followers and almost no leaders, and anyone who trys to think outside the box gets punished somehow. IM an american citizen and im not at all proud to say that. now to all the patriot fucks who are gonna defend america ima leave on this note.... I LOVE THE COUNTRY IM FROM, BUT I HATE!!!! THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE!!!
TreesOfLife
Well-Known Member
PROOF QUIT STRAWMANNING... You a Conniving Ninny!
Can you read? I never said anything about the healthcare bill... ^^^ Back to that post Reread^^^ Finished!
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
You have said eventually I may go and post it, but thats fine. How about this one?
When you posted all those vids from Boehner and called it the truth? He is right wing, you swallowed it and said he was saying the truth, when he was just filabustering.The youtube watching this is VERY JRHLY.
If you watch the video it explains the TRUTH.
Why take my word when you can get the facts from the source.
Open your mind please Sir.
And picking random lines out of the bill and infering what they meant without any actual information. And when I posted about it you simply ignored it and moved on.
Face it you guzzle the right wing media like a champ. Even if you don't know enough to realize it.
At least be more like TheBrutalTruth, he will at least look up his own information and doesn't just guzzle what they are slinging. Even if I do think some of his logic is flawed he does use logic.
