fish601
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that is basicaly how you live your life
If you can prove me wrong go ahead i dont mind changing what i believe.. If i am wrong i am wrong and i will change
Religion Has Done More Bad Than Good
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that is basicaly how you live your life
If you can prove me wrong go ahead i dont mind changing what i believe.. If i am wrong i am wrong and i will change
fish601
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Why say the Bible says earth is only 6000 years old and 100% geologiests would laught and that proves the bible is incorrect then say just going of church doctrine.. kinda misleading huh?
CrackerJax
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CrackerJax
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I believe in a creation point and nothing more since nothing more is in evidence.
Do you think there is a god? Know there is a god? Or want there to be a god?
Fish have you ever seen drunk people? How they lose all upper brain function and become animals. They think about food, fighting and sex. This is because they revert back to the part of the brain which is purely animal instinct. People are animals just like any other. If you deny this fact then you are obviously very very blind to reality.
Christians claim that the world was made for man. That all the wonders were made for us. Does that no strike you as arrogance?
Christians say look at the human hand, at how complex it is. They say that its impossible that could of just 'happened'. That a creator must be involved for something so amazing to happen.
But surely in an infinite universe surely there are infinite possibilities?
By that i mean we are the minute chance, Earth is that 0.0000000000000000000000001% chance of life being formed.
I am not saying you should not be a Christian but to believe in a 'young' Earth is fucking stupid. You must of found some really extreme Christian group to believe that tbh. Look into it a bit more and you will realise that it cant be as young as you have claimed it to be.
Just to add Noah's Flood was in all likely hood just a country wide flood. He would of though the entire world was flooded but that is impossible.
CrackerJax
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There is only evidence of creation, nothing more. No man behind the curtain is evident or has ever revealed itself.
It is only man's ego which demands it be brought forth.
It is only man's ego which demands it be brought forth.
pinkus
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House has been proven by science not to exist
just joshing. i'd say it is about even. but there have been more people killed in the name of religion than anything i can think of. Of course that zealotry doesn't even need to be the true reason, but it's a good guise for a power grab. 
on the other hand, an omniscient god is by definition so far beyond us it would be improbable we could comprehend it in it's entirety. For me god=processes that cause...well everything.
fish601
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I think about food and sex all the time anyways and being drunk doesnt make me want to fight. so i really dont see what drinking has to do with it.
Why was the world made?
I think the human eye is pretty cool, and did you know that the chances of your one eye developing is the same chance if you stick a stick of dynomite under a pile of junk metal and it exploding and before the metal hits the ground it formes a jet that takes off before it hits the ground. and that is just for one eye.. we have two and having two allows us to judge distance so could u imagine the chance of both eyes?? i think thats pretty amazing
there are some very smart people that believe in young earth who study it and are non christians, there has to be something there for them to believe that.
flooded earth is not impossible for my God
fish601
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that does not mean there is no god
have you seen all the evidence?
is it possible that evidence exists that at least supports that a god exist?
pinkus
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the problem that i have with this reasoning is that you are only looking for evidence to support your stance and not accepting any evidence to the contrary...of course that is what faith is about right?
you are very mild in your prosthlatizing and i appreciate that. i don't have a problem with a catastrophic flood, i have a problem with the concept of an arc that held TWO of every species on earth (since evolution is ruled out)
"The National Science Foundations Tree of Life project estimates that there could be anywhere from 5 million to 100 million species on the planet, but science has only identified about 2 million."
so these estimates say between 4 and 200 million species on a boat...how many cubits wide and long...? been a long time since i read it.HA HA
A literal interpretation of the bible is...not possible. these are allegorical stories to explain the unexplainable.
i'm glad you have faith, i just think if you look to the book without perspective you may end up a fallow, bitter atheist, instead of a caring human being.
Which is probably why so many people believe it.
Well the whole alcohol thing is actually a fact, whether you believe it or not lol. How you interpret that data is up to you. The point was human beings are mammals the same as all other.
About the eye thing. Who has actually tested this? Where did you get this info from?
Again the point with that example I gave was that we are that tiny chance. In an infinite universe we are the tiny percentage, Earth. Or I reckons anyway.
Back to this young Earth thing, could you outline the basics of it for me please? And in your words if you don't mind, not a copy and pasted link.
If there had been a world wide flood there would be evidence for it. I am not aware of any such existing. I never said that a god would not be capable of doing it.
fish601
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are you willing to look? look it would be much much easier if there was no god we just live and die game over.
there were not millions of animals not every species of animal got on the boat
total space available was equivalent to 522 railroad stock cars
John Woodmorappe, author of the definitive Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study, estimated that only about 15% of the animals on the ark would have been larger than a sheep.
something to remember there are 400-something dog breeds but they all belong to one species
Allowing for two of each species on the ark, plus seven of the few so-called clean kinds of animals, plus a reasonable increment for known extinct species, it is obvious that not more than say, 50,000 animals were on the ark. (Morris, 1987)
whether there were 16,000 or 25,000 kinds of animals, even with two of each and seven of some, scholars agree that there was plenty of room for all of the animals on the ark, plus food and water with room to spare.
Wait so God killed millions of species of animals cos they didnt fit on the ark?
I know there are a LOT of animals, more than 15% of that size which are bigger than dogs.
And did God put two of each type of animal on your example being 400 odd species of dog?
If animals inbreed they get genetic defects i believe so surely there must of been more than two of every animal?
pinkus
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dogs are one species fish...you must not go outside or to zoos or watch the nature channel. for instance a cassowary. they can gut a man with one kick and they are almost as big as an ostrich, secretive, and live in the rain forest. What did they feed our feathered friend?
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robert 14617
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a bird, really...........get to the point
pinkus
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you don't get that robert? come on...point being that the volume (size) and needs of the critters could never be met for forty days and forty nights. that the stories are allegories and that faith is it's own reward AND faith by it's religious def anyway REQUIRES a belief beyond the rational.
