JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

jigfresh

jigfresh

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None of you get any big idea's now.

Ok so I have a question for you guys. Do you think it is worth $20 more to buy a smaller shaped bulb.

The choices are between an BT28 and an ED18

BT28 is 3.5" around

ED18 is 2.25" aound

It is only an inch and a quarter, but the one is over 50% bigger than the other.

Either way they will go in my cooltube thing, one will allow greater airflow.
 
Ray Fox

Ray Fox

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Agreed with Tom. You don't want a big clunkly bulb to clog up your cooltube's airflow.But if the lumens aren't the same (and it depends by how much) and the larger bulb has MUCH more then you should go for the bigger one. This is just some straight up logic talkin here, but its up to you to decide whatever makes you happy Jig.

P.S. What just like, a totally manned out thread. Technology, pot, baseball, cars, bears hahahaha. Next topic we're discussing lumber jack shirts, John Deere lawn Mowers, and breweries.
 
jigfresh

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You forgot guns, broads, scratching ourselves, burbing, watching football, and yelling.

It's funny becuase I like to sew, hang with the cats, and just painted my room light purple (becuase I wanted it). Maybe I'm overcompensating so you guys will think I'm tough, haha. I love it.
 
jigfresh

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Enough funny business, haha. (you guys have seen the big lebowski, right?). I have questions about my grow. I'm starting to freak out a little bit worrying about timing with my vacation and all. I'm starting to think I'm all wrong.

I go Oct 12-22 (or abouts). I want to start flowering as soon as possible after I come back. So basically I have been trying to count backwards to when I should start this whole thing. I was thinking that around 6-7 weeks of veg (sept 4 - oct 22) would be about right for getting the plants to fill the screen. Reminder, the screen height is 4.5 feet.

However... these are 80% sativa (around). I'm starting to think I'll have 10 foot tall trees by 7 weeks.

Now... what makes it all complicated (or simple) is that I'm using Bushmaster.... which should stop vertical growth on contact (pretty much). So I am not accounting for more stretch after the switch to 12/12... becuase I am hoping there is none.

What are your guys' thoughts? In regards to any parts. How many weeks veg should I give them to fill my screen?
 
robotninja

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I dunno if this is too wild a thought, but I know alot of aeroponic guys actually using Veg nutrients during the first 2-3 weeks of flowering. The plant's completely explode... I'm doing it myself with great results, so many new shoots it's crazy, and stretchy too, good for scrogging. My stems on these 10 day flowering plants are bigger than my 75+ day SSH ever was!
 
bigjesse1922

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jigfresh said:
Enough funny business, haha. (you guys have seen the big lebowski, right?). I have questions about my grow. I'm starting to freak out a little bit worrying about timing with my vacation and all. I'm starting to think I'm all wrong.

I go Oct 12-22 (or abouts). I want to start flowering as soon as possible after I come back. So basically I have been trying to count backwards to when I should start this whole thing. I was thinking that around 6-7 weeks of veg (sept 4 - oct 22) would be about right for getting the plants to fill the screen. Reminder, the screen height is 4.5 feet.

However... these are 80% sativa (around). I'm starting to think I'll have 10 foot tall trees by 7 weeks.

Now... what makes it all complicated (or simple) is that I'm using Bushmaster.... which should stop vertical growth on contact (pretty much). So I am not accounting for more stretch after the switch to 12/12... becuase I am hoping there is none.

What are your guys' thoughts? In regards to any parts. How many weeks veg should I give them to fill my screen?
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I think you will be fine. You can also utilize methods such as stem crushing and even pruning to control the vertical height if needed.

Give the yield you are after I would say 6 weeks of veg would be minimum. You follow Gypsy's tree grow, yes? I believe he vegged his current bushes out for 2 months in Ebb and Flow. MBlaze vegged his 3lb plants for 10-12 weeks (Coca Coir medium).

Sorry I don't know that this is a conclusive answer, but maybe it will get the cranial juices pumpin for ya. :joint:
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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bigjesse1922 said:
I think you will be fine. You can also utilize methods such as stem crushing and even pruning to control the vertical height if needed.

Give the yield you are after I would say 6 weeks of veg would be minimum. You follow Gypsy's tree grow, yes? I believe he vegged his current bushes out for 2 months in Ebb and Flow. MBlaze vegged his 3lb plants for 10-12 weeks (Coca Coir medium).

Sorry I don't know that this is a conclusive answer, but maybe it will get the cranial juices pumpin for ya. :joint:
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Actually I've never even seen either of those grows. I don't really look for things to follow I spend too much time on here as is. That being said, I will check these out.

I guess the big worry is that I have never done sativa's before. Do they do sativa's? Only a guess, but I would figure they both did indica's (just because most people on here seem to grow indica... guess it's the quicker turnaround???).

I also figure if they are already getting too big before my trip... I'll probably just let them go... get huge (too huge), and when I get back chop them in half or something. Cut them back down to size, switch to 12/12 and try to halt the growth.

Appreciate the input. I am more at ease with the idea in general now, not thinking I'm TOO off base.

You too Robotninja... thanks for stopping by and offering up some ideas.

EDIT: I read up a little on the Casey Jones strain and I'm excited about it. People say it yeilds big, smells amazing, and is fun to grow. I guess I wasn't exactly accurate before. Depending on who you beleive Casey Jones = (Trainwreck x Thai) x Sour Deisel... I guess you can have nested crosses. Some say it is a four way cross (maybe breaking down trainwreck). It all just gets a little silly sometimes eh.

Also... I have been check availability of clones at the shop I go to, and it seems they don't carry HeadBand anymore... so I think my thread title may be bogus. Question for you guys.... you think I should just do 2 plants of Casey Jones.... or you think I should do 1 Casey Jones, 1 (either HeadBand or Sour Grape). Sour Grape = Purple Elephant x Sour Deisel.
 
bigjesse1922

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Well Gypsy is doing "Sativicas" right now.

He's got himself a 19 gallon pot of hydroton, an indica plant in the middle, and sativa branches all around the outside. Its pretty nuts! :clap:

I can't say about MBlaze, my guess is he grows indica.
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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Checked the thread... damn gypsies are crazy, haha. Why grow one plant when you can grow two in one. I love it. I'm posting that here... Gypsy: I love your big monsters.

I finished the first part of my deck.

I ordered the 400w MH conversion bulb, should be here on the 25th. I really don't need to buy anything else... just the plants really. I do need to finish construction.

I am pumped about this grow.

I'll ask again... you guys thing I should grow 2 of the same plants.... or do 2 different strains?
 

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mazpot

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WOW! that's amazing bud man! that shit would cost me 120 bucks for a quarter of an once. your a supreme god grower! don't ever stop growing. :-P:clap:
 
Hulk Nugs

Hulk Nugs

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Hmm one or two ......... well i know you do your research so i would say if you could find two strains that are about the same in almost every way then go for two..........but if there are allot of difference between the two strains i would just go with one. Already doing a crazy grow make it easy on your self.
 
tahoe58

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I think the idea of a couple of different ones is nice. I can make things a little more complicated .. but the reward at thr end is probably worth it.:weed:
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Checked the thread... damn gypsies are crazy, haha. Why grow one plant when you can grow two in one. I love it. I'm posting that here... Gypsy: I love your big monsters.

I finished the first part of my deck.

I ordered the 400w MH conversion bulb, should be here on the 25th. I really don't need to buy anything else... just the plants really. I do need to finish construction.

I am pumped about this grow.

I'll ask again... you guys thing I should grow 2 of the same plants.... or do 2 different strains?
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jigfresh

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Good points on both sides... I'm just not sure. I guess two strains. I mean I'm planning on having a lot off each plant, so it's not like I won't have enough of one, so I guess two. Decisions decisions.

Check out what I noticed while watching the cricket match. Not all cricket fans are 80 years old.
 

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diggitydank420

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jigfresh said:
Good points on both sides... I'm just not sure. I guess two strains. I mean I'm planning on having a lot off each plant, so it's not like I won't have enough of one, so I guess two. Decisions decisions.

Check out what I noticed while watching the cricket match. Not all cricket fans are 80 years old.
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Friggin' sweet :weed:
 
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