Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;
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Hobbes
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Flo - Dutch Passion (feminized): 12/12 start on June 26. Day 50.
I'm starting to see a few bananas. I picked 2 or 3 dozen off tonight, later I'll go over it with tweezers then soak with Reverse and Penatrator. I could ignore the existing bananas because the Reverse will kill them, but I like to get an idea of the growth rate the next time I spay. I'll pick the Bananas again and get an idea if I'm properly treating the hermaphrodism.
The banana production is bad enough to be a nuisance if I don't stop it. Dutch Passion feminized seeds suck fucking shit. 3 of 4 hermied - while growing beside other strains that did not hermie. And dollars to donuts I would have gone 4 for 4 if I hadn't picked a Runderalis cross.
BEWARE DUTCH PASSION FEMINIZED SEEDS. USE AT YOUR OWN PERIL.
Interesting buds though - small conical shaped, solid. And the leaves are turning shades of purple.
This is so dissapointing, I was hoping to get a pheno that was good enough to keep as a mother. Never again will I settle for knockoffs. Should have gone directly to DJ Short.
The beast is in front, flat circle grow. Behind is a SSD sativa pheno.
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I'm starting to see a few bananas. I picked 2 or 3 dozen off tonight, later I'll go over it with tweezers then soak with Reverse and Penatrator. I could ignore the existing bananas because the Reverse will kill them, but I like to get an idea of the growth rate the next time I spay. I'll pick the Bananas again and get an idea if I'm properly treating the hermaphrodism.
The banana production is bad enough to be a nuisance if I don't stop it. Dutch Passion feminized seeds suck fucking shit. 3 of 4 hermied - while growing beside other strains that did not hermie. And dollars to donuts I would have gone 4 for 4 if I hadn't picked a Runderalis cross.
BEWARE DUTCH PASSION FEMINIZED SEEDS. USE AT YOUR OWN PERIL.
Interesting buds though - small conical shaped, solid. And the leaves are turning shades of purple.
This is so dissapointing, I was hoping to get a pheno that was good enough to keep as a mother. Never again will I settle for knockoffs. Should have gone directly to DJ Short.
The beast is in front, flat circle grow. Behind is a SSD sativa pheno.
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THseaman
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YES! Add, Himalaya Gold to the confirmed hermie risk list. Noticed last night that a specimen of a HG plant had turned hermie on me. It was on day 52 when I chopped it. It had 10-12 slightly opened sacs. 20-30 premature seeds also noticed throughout plant when I trimmed.
This is my first Hermie and also my first batch of HG. I have been hyping up GH fem seeds for a while now after several successful grows with no hermies. This grounds me a bit. I had my guard down checking for hermies. When I first started growing fem seeds I was hypervigilant about checking for hermies but then I got comfortable after I never found any. I guess it's just certain strains eh?
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THseaman
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DUDE!....I'm having the same experience with HG and BB! Only 5/10 germ'd for the BB and 7/10 for the HG. And then 1 of the HG grew bananas and the other 4 grew totally different. And I also had one that was 90% sugar leaf with almost no bud too that I chopped week 6. What a joke that plant was. I have never seen anything like it.
Greenhouse claiming their fem seeds are 100% female is 100% bullshit! I think I am going to try out flying dutchman.
Im almost done with Greenhouse White Rhino and I have one hermie, but that is probably because I nearly killed it two months ago and after one month of the plant doing nothing Im luckily still gonna get at least a slice of decent bud. I think Greenhouse probably is alright if you stick with their older stuff and there are quite a few good grows on here of SLH. Im gonna try out some more expensive genetics the next 2 grows and see if it is worth it. Its not like the WR I have isnt good it smells nice and if this wasnt my first time they would be really nice Im sure. For something $200 I better get something that is AWESOME
good luck with the train wreck, do you think he actually got the arcata clone? and if you havent seen it the youtube video for trainwreck by Arjan its the worst one he has its pretty funny that sidekick of his should dress up like robin
good luck with the train wreck, do you think he actually got the arcata clone? and if you havent seen it the youtube video for trainwreck by Arjan its the worst one he has its pretty funny that sidekick of his should dress up like robin
Hobbes
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My Dutch Passion Bastardized Flo looks like it has fertilizer burn on the leaves, buds ... very severe, just horrible.
I used 1/2 recommended strength Fox Farm granular nutes and mix 4 gallons of water and nutes in a 5 gallon bucket for watering. I'm flowering BF (Bastardized Flo), Super Strawberry Diesel, Bubblegum, Kali Mist and Big Laughing - all get the same nutes and Flo is the only one with even a hint of "what looks like" burn. And the burn is massive, I've never had it so bad and it all came in 48 hours after spraying with Reverse and Penatrator - and after the second feeding after changing from Fox Farm Liquid to Fox Farm Granular
I soaked her in Reverse and Penetrator, but I've done more to other plants and had no problem. The Penetrator concentration may have been a bit high (read A LOT) because I mixed a small amount for only 1 plant. I did mist the Flo with distilled water 3 times after applying the Reverse so it should have help more absorb rather than sit on the leaf and bud and do nasty stuff. Nothing I've ever read suggests that Reverse will burn leaves or buds, it has to be the nutes.
The Reverse mixture spraying and subsequent distilled water misting was done outside the grow room - so the light through the liquid wouldn't burn the plant. I thought I left the plant long enough after the last misting but it's possible that the light prismed through the water drops and burnt the plant. I'll check in what would be shaded areas tonight, if they are/aren't burnt it'll give another clue as to what happened.
I watered with a gallon of clear water but I should have flushed with 5 - 15 gallons. If it's any worse tonight I'll do that.
Strange problem, I'm thinking that Flo - coming from the Blueberry family - is very nute sensitive, much more so than SSD or Bubblegum. I've been searching the web for problems with Reverse or Penetrator causing burn but have found nothing.
And BF is Dutch Passion. F^#@!$# C^&$#!
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I was reading Subcool's Chernobyl writeup and he said that he didn't like the Arcata Trainwreck cut because it tended to hermie - from clone. I'm switching my next fem germination to White Widow by Seedsman. I'd really like to run a trouble free feminized plant, and if someone can't get White Widow right (them breeding / me growing) there is no hope for growing fems.
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My Dutch Passion Bastardized Flo looks like it has fertilizer burn on the leaves, buds ... very severe, just horrible.
I used 1/2 recommended strength Fox Farm granular nutes and mix 4 gallons of water and nutes in a 5 gallon bucket for watering. I'm flowering BF (Bastardized Flo), Super Strawberry Diesel, Bubblegum, Kali Mist and Big Laughing - all get the same nutes and Flo is the only one with even a hint of "what looks like" burn. And the burn is massive, I've never had it so bad and it all came in 48 hours after spraying with Reverse and Penatrator - and after the second feeding after changing from Fox Farm Liquid to Fox Farm Granular
I soaked her in Reverse and Penetrator, but I've done more to other plants and had no problem. The Penetrator concentration may have been a bit high (read A LOT) because I mixed a small amount for only 1 plant. I did mist the Flo with distilled water 3 times after applying the Reverse so it should have help more absorb rather than sit on the leaf and bud and do nasty stuff. Nothing I've ever read suggests that Reverse will burn leaves or buds, it has to be the nutes.
The Reverse mixture spraying and subsequent distilled water misting was done outside the grow room - so the light through the liquid wouldn't burn the plant. I thought I left the plant long enough after the last misting but it's possible that the light prismed through the water drops and burnt the plant. I'll check in what would be shaded areas tonight, if they are/aren't burnt it'll give another clue as to what happened.
I watered with a gallon of clear water but I should have flushed with 5 - 15 gallons. If it's any worse tonight I'll do that.
Strange problem, I'm thinking that Flo - coming from the Blueberry family - is very nute sensitive, much more so than SSD or Bubblegum. I've been searching the web for problems with Reverse or Penetrator causing burn but have found nothing.
And BF is Dutch Passion. F^#@!$# C^&$#!
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I was reading Subcool's Chernobyl writeup and he said that he didn't like the Arcata Trainwreck cut because it tended to hermie - from clone. I'm switching my next fem germination to White Widow by Seedsman. I'd really like to run a trouble free feminized plant, and if someone can't get White Widow right (them breeding / me growing) there is no hope for growing fems.
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msgmehere1
Member
has anyone tried any of these breeders?
CH9 female seeds or Femaleseeds . nl (X-Line)
CH9 female seeds or Femaleseeds . nl (X-Line)
Hobbes
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This is a Flo that I burnt the leaves and buds. I think it's from a poorly mixed solution of Reverse and Penatrator I was using to stop the hermieing. I believe that I used about 5 times as much Penetrator as I should have: I poured a small amount of Reverse for one plant and I used a full batch portion of Penetrator.
It also could have been from fertilizer burn, so I flushed with 5 gallons of clear water. I have 6 other plants feed on the same mixture so unless Flo is really fert sensative, which it might be being from the blue family, it's probably not the problem.
The other possibility I ruled out is burning the leaves: I sprayed the Reverse out side the grow room so the liquid would have longer to absorb before it evaporated. I misted 3 times after the leaves dried to be sure there was no Reverse left on the leaf. There were dead and burned leaves in the shade, so I don't think the problem was burn from the HID light being prismed by water drops.
On the bright side its 3 days after spraying and there's no banana re-growth, which means there's a good chance that the hermieing can be stopped.
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It also could have been from fertilizer burn, so I flushed with 5 gallons of clear water. I have 6 other plants feed on the same mixture so unless Flo is really fert sensative, which it might be being from the blue family, it's probably not the problem.
The other possibility I ruled out is burning the leaves: I sprayed the Reverse out side the grow room so the liquid would have longer to absorb before it evaporated. I misted 3 times after the leaves dried to be sure there was no Reverse left on the leaf. There were dead and burned leaves in the shade, so I don't think the problem was burn from the HID light being prismed by water drops.
On the bright side its 3 days after spraying and there's no banana re-growth, which means there's a good chance that the hermieing can be stopped.
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bicycle racer
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ouch that sucks.
siltysand
Member
This is a Flo that I burnt the leaves and buds. I think it's from a poorly mixed solution of Reverse and Penatrator I was using to stop the hermieing. I believe that I used about 5 times as much Penetrator as I should have: I poured a small amount of Reverse for one plant and I used a full batch portion of Penetrator.
It also could have been from fertilizer burn, so I flushed with 5 gallons of clear water. I have 6 other plants feed on the same mixture so unless Flo is really fert sensative, which it might be being from the blue family, it's probably not the problem.
The other possibility I ruled out is burning the leaves: I sprayed the Reverse out side the grow room so the liquid would have longer to absorb before it evaporated. I misted 3 times after the leaves dried to be sure there was no Reverse left on the leaf. There were dead and burned leaves in the shade, so I don't think the problem was burn from the HID light being prismed by water drops.
On the bright side its 3 days after spraying and there's no banana re-growth, which means there's a good chance that the hermieing can be stopped.
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I accidently used twice the amount of penetrator and burned the leaves. The same strain plants that recieved the correct amount were fine.
Mr.Therapy Man
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Hey hobbes ,how long did your order off bidzbay take,Its been two weeks and its still showing unpaid on that fucked up site
Hobbes
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"I accidently used twice the amount of penetrator and burned the leaves. The same strain plants that recieved the correct amount were fine"
I think the mystery is solved. More Penetrator is not better than the manufacturer suggested amount.
I clipped all the dead leaves, most of the fan leaves. I'll clip some of the dead buds for my hash bucket once the plant stabilizes, leave the green and get rid of anything dead.
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I think the mystery is solved. More Penetrator is not better than the manufacturer suggested amount.
I clipped all the dead leaves, most of the fan leaves. I'll clip some of the dead buds for my hash bucket once the plant stabilizes, leave the green and get rid of anything dead.
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Hobbes
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I harvested the burnt Flo (Dutch Passion) today, 56 days of flower which is pretty good for me. Some of the buds' trichomes were 100% amber, some 20%. No bananas grew back after the Reverse application.
If I clipped the burnt bud and waited for new bud to grow the plant would be 100% amber long before I made up the weight. It was like Dutch Passion's Blueberry, poorly formed buds, not good weight.
The taste is like a musky berry, very heavy. A tingling on the back center and sides of the tongue, very satisfying taste. The first bag I had I was confused and blurry headed but the last couple have been clear headed. Just a cup of bud baked cured @ 110 C for an hour. I've got the rest hanging, it's cool the way it hangs in a circle.
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August 22 - White Widow - Seedsman (Feminized): germinated.
Time to start it all over. Again.
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.u...man-seeds-white-widow-feminized/prod_433.html
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If I clipped the burnt bud and waited for new bud to grow the plant would be 100% amber long before I made up the weight. It was like Dutch Passion's Blueberry, poorly formed buds, not good weight.
The taste is like a musky berry, very heavy. A tingling on the back center and sides of the tongue, very satisfying taste. The first bag I had I was confused and blurry headed but the last couple have been clear headed. Just a cup of bud baked cured @ 110 C for an hour. I've got the rest hanging, it's cool the way it hangs in a circle.
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August 22 - White Widow - Seedsman (Feminized): germinated.
Time to start it all over. Again.
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.u...man-seeds-white-widow-feminized/prod_433.html
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bicycle racer
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my own fem creations and a few other hybrids are in 6 weeks of flower outdoor all are perfect so far no reverse application as of yet needed i think they will go to harvest with no issues.
Scamstopper
Member
I just saw this thread and can’t believe anyone would want to use hermaphrodites or any other freak plant as seed stock. If you use freak parent plants you will get freak seeds and on and on.
In short, buying feminized seeds, making them from hermaphroditic parents and or hormonal alteration, picking off male parts and hoping to not pollinate your whole crop is all a waste of time and the wrong way to go.
Use natural genetic variations from un-altered male and females seeds, look for a super-breed (the best characteristics you want) out of as many as possible. Then clone! clone! clone!
There’s no need to buy feminized seeds over and over. It’s too much money, hassle dealing with orders, hermaphrodites, mutant plants, etc.
This article explains what I have posted in more detail.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/394
In short, buying feminized seeds, making them from hermaphroditic parents and or hormonal alteration, picking off male parts and hoping to not pollinate your whole crop is all a waste of time and the wrong way to go.
Use natural genetic variations from un-altered male and females seeds, look for a super-breed (the best characteristics you want) out of as many as possible. Then clone! clone! clone!
There’s no need to buy feminized seeds over and over. It’s too much money, hassle dealing with orders, hermaphrodites, mutant plants, etc.
This article explains what I have posted in more detail.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/394
Mr.Therapy Man
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Scamstopper,Not all female seeds hermie and I agree with everyone one else,Your just looking for a place to shed more tears
Scamstopper
Member
Mr. Therapy Man,
I didnt say all feminized seeds turn hermaphrodite, but to clarify a growing percentage of them are.
I have no need to shed tears anywhere; you should spend more time understanding what is posted rather than coming up with clever insults.
I didnt say all feminized seeds turn hermaphrodite, but to clarify a growing percentage of them are.
I have no need to shed tears anywhere; you should spend more time understanding what is posted rather than coming up with clever insults.