bubbleponics superior to aeroponics

[purpdaddy]

ebb/flow is the easiest and more productive then anything ive seen. Depends on your style though if you want big plants ebb/flow isnt better DRIP or hempy methods all of these methods can be ran on a flood table with a res and drain to recirculate. DWC seems way productive but it looks pretty labor intense imma build somthing though to try it out. Havng to mess with the roots freaks me out for some reason.

I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that DWC/Bubbleponics is by far the easiest maintained system out there..i check mine once a week..thats it.

 

[purpdaddy]

ebb/flow is the easiest and more productive then anything ive seen. Depends on your style though if you want big plants ebb/flow isnt better DRIP or hempy methods all of these methods can be ran on a flood table with a res and drain to recirculate. DWC seems way productive but it looks pretty labor intense imma build somthing though to try it out. Havng to mess with the roots freaks me out for some reason.

Please explain to me why ebb n flow is better for smaller plants?Since you know

 

[snail240]

Please explain to me why ebb n flow is better for smaller plants?Since you know

4 plants per square foot.

1 res for how ever many plants you can afford to pump to.

Witch means 1 res to cool as well and clean.

Dont have to worry about tangled roots in my res or other ill effects from setting roots in water for 24/7 ie air pump fail or dieing roots left in res.

Can move sick plants out of guarden if infected with spidermites or other pests or fungi. Plants are movable by them self in a pot. Reuses your medium because doing lots of small plants thats a plus ever seen 80 gallons of soil every 2 weeks yeah you get looked at funny.

I could go on but it would take hours. For now ebb/flow is best DWC can be perfected to a better system but until then ebb/flow.

 

[nikk]

Please explain to me why ebb n flow is better for smaller plants?Since you know

i dont know,i really wanted to get into ebb and flow for the main reason that the roots are suspended in air,yeah i know that there is no real "wrong" way here,but i figure it like this,bubbleponics work by utilizing a pump and manifold to pump the water up to the roots right? and once the roots touch the water you technically dont need the manifold and pump anymore,but with the ebb and flow it takes the idea a lil further buy making sure that the pump amd manifold are in constant use because the roots never "hit" the water per se,and because of the fact alone the roots are enveloped in fresh air.....either way the grower wins,and i know that you dont need to check either of em for days at a time....i have a bubbleponic system by the way,but i was always intrigued by ebb and flow,fuck it,i figure since you already have the pump and manifold that it shouldnt be too hard to rig an extra rubbermaid with an overflow valve to sit atop the rez anyway...but whatever i guess
oh and i wasnt assuming you were talking to me,i just jumped in to add my 2 cents...lol,dont take it the wrong way

 

[Roseman]

You can say that moving or stiring water doesn't cool it, but I bet you stir your hot coffee or hot soup to cool it.

 

[purpdaddy]

i dont know,i really wanted to get into ebb and flow for the main reason that the roots are suspended in air,yeah i know that there is no real "wrong" way here,but i figure it like this,bubbleponics work by utilizing a pump and manifold to pump the water up to the roots right? and once the roots touch the water you technically dont need the manifold and pump anymore,but with the ebb and flow it takes the idea a lil further buy making sure that the pump amd manifold are in constant use because the roots never "hit" the water per se,and because of the fact alone the roots are enveloped in fresh air.....either way the grower wins,and i know that you dont need to check either of em for days at a time....i have a bubbleponic system by the way,but i was always intrigued by ebb and flow,fuck it,i figure since you already have the pump and manifold that it shouldnt be too hard to rig an extra rubbermaid with an overflow valve to sit atop the rez anyway...but whatever i guess
oh and i wasnt assuming you were talking to me,i just jumped in to add my 2 cents...lol,dont take it the wrong way

No dissrespect taken..but we oxygenate the roots with airstones.In that area i would say DWC is better because the roots are in the bubbles..they not in an ebb n flow.Ebb n flow is good..just requires a lil more attention.
Its just a way of growing peepz.Trust me..its all on the grower and strain.

 

[purpdaddy]

4 plants per square foot.

1 res for how ever many plants you can afford to pump to.

Witch means 1 res to cool as well and clean.

Dont have to worry about tangled roots in my res or other ill effects from setting roots in water for 24/7 ie air pump fail or dieing roots left in res.

Can move sick plants out of guarden if infected with spidermites or other pests or fungi. Plants are movable by them self in a pot. Reuses your medium because doing lots of small plants thats a plus ever seen 80 gallons of soil every 2 weeks yeah you get looked at funny.

I could go on but it would take hours. For now ebb/flow is best DWC can be perfected to a better system but until then ebb/flow.

Please go on cause all that other shit is meanless and preventable..next

 

[nikk]

No dissrespect taken..but we oxygenate the roots with airstones.In that area i would say DWC is better because the roots are in the bubbles..they not in an ebb n flow.Ebb n flow is good..just requires a lil more attention.
Its just a way of growing peepz.Trust me..its all on the grower and strain.

true indeed,i love my system because you and the big homey taught me everything i know,you taught me indirectly and you unk basically showed me the ropes,its all appreciated tho...hey i atleast know the differences between ebb and flo,DWC,bubbleponics and NFT,you can bet that 5 months ago i didnt know shit,and that was before i came on riu....so thanks for the info

 

[purpdaddy]

true indeed,i love my system because you and the big homey taught me everything i know,you taught me indirectly and you unk basically showed me the ropes,its all appreciated tho...hey i atleast know the differences between ebb and flo,DWC,bubbleponics and NFT,you can bet that 5 months ago i didnt know shit,and that was before i came on riu....so thanks for the info

Anytime bro ive just been asked to shed some light on this..
Ebb n Flow=GREAT.i know a guy that grows SUPREME bud in it,,i mean nuthin but the best in it,,and yeilds heavy too.
DWC=GREAT.i know a guy that grows SUPREME,,i mean nuthin but the best in it,,and yeilds awesome too.
not for you nikk but the ones that dont know.

 

[snail240]

Please go on cause all that other shit is meanless and preventable..next

I dont understand your logic really. You cant just ignore proven systems and their results. Show me a DWC system running hundreds of small plants.

I really wanna know if you can show me DWC system that is easy and more effective then ebb/flow running hundreds of plants. Its really not practicle and surprised your arguing that. Seen Aero, ebb/flow, DRIP,hempy and soil grows with hundreds of small plants but never a DWC wounder why?

 

[nikk]

I dont understand your logic really. You cant just ignore proven systems and their results. Show me a DWC system running hundreds of small plants.

I really wanna know if you can show me DWC system that is easy and more effective then ebb/flow running hundreds of plants. Its really not practicle and surprised your arguing that. Seen Aero, ebb/flow, DRIP,hempy and soil grows with hundreds of small plants but never a DWC wounder why?

maybe because tubs are bigger than buckets,space wise, i dont know,but thats my guess

 

[purpdaddy]

I dont understand your logic really. You cant just ignore proven systems and their results. Show me a DWC system running hundreds of small plants.

I really wanna know if you can show me DWC system that is easy and more effective then ebb/flow running hundreds of plants. Its really not practicle and surprised your arguing that. Seen Aero, ebb/flow, DRIP,hempy and soil grows with hundreds of small plants but never a DWC wounder why?

Thats cause you havnt seen shit..you just said it..i need to explain no more!LOL

 

[nikk]

Thats cause you havnt seen shit..you just said it..i need to explain no more!LOL

oh shit,you stylin on him son...lmao

 

[purpdaddy]

show me a dwc system that isnt effective?

 

[Illegal Smile]

You can say that moving or stiring water doesn't cool it, but I bet you stir your hot coffee or hot soup to cool it.

That's because the temp of the air around the coffee is much lower and there is an energy (heat) transfer taking place. Even then, it isn't so much the stirring that helps to cool it, it is the metal spoon that transfers heat up and creates more surface area from which the heat transfer can be accelerated. A res is sealed and nothing that happens inside there will change the temp, it has to be acted upon by outside forces.

 

[purpdaddy]

it has to be acted upon by outside forces.

we on sum STAR WAR shit now?WTF?The stirring of the water makes it cooler .The momentum of the water makes it cooler..not much but it does.

 

[nikk]

That's because the temp of the air around the coffee is much lower and there is an energy (heat) transfer taking place. Even then, it isn't so much the stirring that helps to cool it, it is the metal spoon that transfers heat up and creates more surface area from which the heat transfer can be accelerated. A res is sealed and nothing that happens inside there will change the temp, it has to be acted upon by outside forces.

but what about those that stir they're coffee with a straw hmmm?

just kidding,i see your point

 

[Illegal Smile]

I have read only a little on the RDWC (recirculating) but from what I gather it could be used to grow a hundred plants. I hear the plumbing is a big headache at that level though, and you could find yourself with a very large puddle. If we could all just grow six good plants we wouldn't need any systems that can grow a hundred.

 

[nikk]

I have read only a little on the RDWC (recirculating) but from what I gather it could be used to grow a hundred plants. I hear the plumbing is a big headache at that level though, and you could find yourself with a very large puddle. If we could all just grow six good plants we wouldn't need any systems that can grow a hundred.

preach on my brother,preach on

 

[Illegal Smile]

but what about those that stir they're coffee with a straw hmmm?

just kidding,i see your point

I think they are just stirring and not cooling. This is not even a worthy subject for debate, it was settled by physicists - about 200 years ago.