Plasma is the Future of growing!

TechnoMage

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Ok plasmargon, here's the deal. I love lights, light that have a computer interface sounds sweeter than sin to me. But I admit I'm skeptical.

I've actually rolled out several new products before, both hardware and software. For a finished product to customer anytime this year there would have to be some type of working prototype. I'd also assume that this prototype had been tested in a grow. What I'd like to see is pictures. All we've seen so far is charts and graphs and a lot of us have seen that before with a lot of new types of lights that just never materialized or didn't live up to their hype.

I'm not saying that your trying to jerk us around but you have to remember where a lot of us are coming from. You want to sell like gangbusters? Have the admin's of the board do some type of random drawing and you send the winner one of these lights to review.
 

rampagen08

Active Member
Honestly, I don't see that much flaming, I've seen worse. We just want something concrete.
Well man, as sometimes patents are stolen, why would this guy post something on the web which would be free to steal and unprosecutable as the patent is pending?
patents pend for up to 5 years sometimes... hopefully we'll get to see it soon but dont bad mouth him because you cant see it now... if you were to invent something and start a patent process would you want to start getting your product out there? yes
would you give the designs and video of it working? NO
it would be stupid and you would instantly have 200 competitors with the same idea.
 

socalsinner

Member
Well man, as sometimes patents are stolen, why would this guy post something on the web which would be free to steal and unprosecutable as the patent is pending?
patents pend for up to 5 years sometimes... hopefully we'll get to see it soon but dont bad mouth him because you cant see it now... if you were to invent something and start a patent process would you want to start getting your product out there? yes
would you give the designs and video of it working? NO
it would be stupid and you would instantly have 200 competitors with the same idea.
I for one know hes not full of shit. Im in the process of picking up one of these units for testing. The manufacturer of the device has allready sold many of their demo devices to other companies that build devices that use the light form. Once I get my device I'll post pictures . I wont have my device for a month or two. If you dont believe him do some research ... it wont take too long to prove hes right lol
 

TechnoMage

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As someone who is actually listed as a co-inventor on three patents now held by Microsoft, yes I would post something on the web while a patent is pending. As it happens, we started the patent process in 1996, after the code was released and they weren't awarded until 2003.

In addition, I'm not sure where patents would come into it. As I read it, he's not the manufacturer of the bulbs themselves, just putting them in a housing to be used as a grow light. Unless there's something very unique about the housing itself, prior art would prevent any patents from being issued.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, and I'm not calling anyone a liar. What I'm saying is that a lot of us have heard a very similar story time and time again, and they never live up to the hype. Getting upset with us for being skeptical in my mind is unreasonable.

Well man, as sometimes patents are stolen, why would this guy post something on the web which would be free to steal and unprosecutable as the patent is pending?
patents pend for up to 5 years sometimes... hopefully we'll get to see it soon but dont bad mouth him because you cant see it now... if you were to invent something and start a patent process would you want to start getting your product out there? yes
would you give the designs and video of it working? NO
it would be stupid and you would instantly have 200 competitors with the same idea.
 

420caregiver

Active Member


A new technology that promises to deliver ultra-efficient plasma light-bulbs, better than LEDs was developed by Luxim of Sunnyvale, California. At the size of a Tic-Tac this tiny lightbulb can provide as much light as a street lamp.

The technology seems to be simple, at least for them. It’s partially packed in a dielectric material, has argon gas inside and a component called “puck”. The process goes like this: electric energy is being sent inside, the puck acts as a lens and heats up the argon gas up to 6,000 degrees Kelvin which in return gives off ultra-efficient bright light similar to the spectrum of sunlight.

Using 250 watts, it achieves 140 lumens per watt which is way above the standard lightbulbs and even high-end LEDs that will get 15 to 70 lumens per watt.


Read more: http://www.greenpacks.org/2008/03/24/luxims-plasma-lightbulb-tiny-and-ultra-efficient/#ixzz0PWoqryTN
 

strictly seedleSs

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Just because a light is super bright to our eyes, doesnt mean its the proper lighting for plant growth. Lumens dont roll into plant growth.
 

TechnoMage

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Hey, I would love this to be true. I've held off on getting a 400w because I didn't want to deal with extra heat. If this works as advertised, I'll buy. First I need to see it working. :)
 
I didn't know what I was getting into...hehehehe, but what the hay. I've been through worse.

Thanks for all of your emails supporting this new product. Yes someone is doing another grow with it in the Netherlands. He got pissed off at me trying to help, (I guess I can be a little accertive) but when you see someone making huge mistakes for the first online grow it makes you want to correct them. I messed up and got all pissy about it now I'm banned. Oh well, no harm no foul.

My way using this light is so far advanced than what they did so please don't judge what it can do based off their grow please.

I got 1.2 gm per watt per month (9 weeks bud) in my first grow. I have been forbidden by my investor to post anything and I will honor that. I'm in a hard situation that's why I haven't been posting here. It will soon be that it's proven what this will do but it wont be me proving it. Sorry.

I learned another hard lessons about informing people how to check the security of the website they post on. I couldn't believe I was banned for sharing that information on Gardens Cure. Why would they ban me for that?
 

TechnoMage

Well-Known Member
Plasmargon,

I can understand if you're under some type of NDA right now but can you tell us when we're actually going to be able to see photos of a grow in progress?

I didn't know what I was getting into...hehehehe, but what the hay. I've been through worse.

Thanks for all of your emails supporting this new product. Yes someone is doing another grow with it in the Netherlands. He got pissed off at me trying to help, (I guess I can be a little accertive) but when you see someone making huge mistakes for the first online grow it makes you want to correct them. I messed up and got all pissy about it now I'm banned. Oh well, no harm no foul.

My way using this light is so far advanced than what they did so please don't judge what it can do based off their grow please.

I got 1.2 gm per watt per month (9 weeks bud) in my first grow. I have been forbidden by my investor to post anything and I will honor that. I'm in a hard situation that's why I haven't been posting here. It will soon be that it's proven what this will do but it wont be me proving it. Sorry.

I learned another hard lessons about informing people how to check the security of the website they post on. I couldn't believe I was banned for sharing that information on Gardens Cure. Why would they ban me for that?
 

420caregiver

Active Member
Plasmargon,

I can understand if you're under some type of NDA right now but can you tell us when we're actually going to be able to see photos of a grow in progress?
I am so exited please let us know how this product works out and good job!!:bigjoint: Pictures are a great idea!!
 
I am so exited please let us know how this product works out and good job!!:bigjoint: Pictures are a great idea!!
Worth a thousand words and dollars. JK.

The initial correspondance with the pattent office went great. Soon I'll have the pattent pending status and I can open the website.

The photographer laughed outloud when I showed him what I was having him photograph, he's an old stoner.

I've designed it using the 40-02 driver which is the exact same dimensions as the upgraded model and it should be ready for sale on Halloween. :wall:
 
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