proheto8008
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cant wait to see the update on vert green
JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones
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jigfresh
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Well, the website I bought my airpump from says this
38 Liter/minute
2.9 PSI
BUT... it also says it's 10 watts... but the pump has a sticker on it that says 18 watt... so who knows really.
Cost me $40... here's a link:
AIRPUMP LINK
I could not beleive that game today. I feel sorry for any philly fan that was watching... that must have hurt. Bullpens sure are important.
I was wearing my Brooklyn Dodgers hat today.
you following me over there too?
My wife says she worried the plants might come alive and eat us.
Here's some pics... I don't really know what to tell you guys. The plants are pretty happy.
I took some pics of my roots.... as best I could.
Last pic is of the makings of some pizzas... I'm having company tomorrow.
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Dr. Greenhorn
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damn Jig! looking goooood!!
jigfresh
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Hey guys,
I'm hurting right now. A friend has lost someone close and I am having a hard time dealing with it. I would usually talk to someone, but my wife is in London, and my parents are in Mexico. I swear I fucking hate vacations.
Anyways, I just wanted to tell someone whats up. So you guys get me being emotional.
For real, value today. Call your parents, tell em you love em. And even if you don't, call em and lie.
EDIT: Please feel free to comment on my plants still. I promised earlier in the thread we were going to avoid tragedy, I guess life happens. So... those are some sick looking roots huh?
I'm hurting right now. A friend has lost someone close and I am having a hard time dealing with it. I would usually talk to someone, but my wife is in London, and my parents are in Mexico. I swear I fucking hate vacations.
Anyways, I just wanted to tell someone whats up. So you guys get me being emotional.
For real, value today. Call your parents, tell em you love em. And even if you don't, call em and lie.
EDIT: Please feel free to comment on my plants still. I promised earlier in the thread we were going to avoid tragedy, I guess life happens. So... those are some sick looking roots huh?
neversummer28
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jigs, i'm sorry you have no one to talk to. i know how tough losses are, i've had a lot of friends lose family members over the past couple years and i went through a tough time in my teen years. if you need someone to listen, send me a message bud. hang tough.
as for your girls, i'm in absolute awe. as for the 400W vs the 250W, i would simply think you would want the HPS bulb closer to the height where most of the buds will be with the MH bulb providing "complimenting" lighting.
as for the phillies versus dodgers. we gave that game to you guys. i couldn't even watch the ending. that's not how you lose a game in the playoffs... stupid error (by chase utley) and walking the winning run in. we didn't deserve to win that game nor do we deserve to win another world series if we keep playing like that.
and tom420, don't be mad just b/c your mets have been garbage for the last 3 seasons.
as for your girls, i'm in absolute awe. as for the 400W vs the 250W, i would simply think you would want the HPS bulb closer to the height where most of the buds will be with the MH bulb providing "complimenting" lighting.
as for the phillies versus dodgers. we gave that game to you guys. i couldn't even watch the ending. that's not how you lose a game in the playoffs... stupid error (by chase utley) and walking the winning run in. we didn't deserve to win that game nor do we deserve to win another world series if we keep playing like that.
and tom420, don't be mad just b/c your mets have been garbage for the last 3 seasons.
jigfresh
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DAMN.... the smack talking has begun. I think there may be some bitterness as the phillies seem to have borrowed the Mets' philosophy on closing games. To not do it. *slap*and tom420, don't be mad just b/c your mets have been garbage for the last 3 seasons.
But seriously, wouldn't the dodgers beating the yankees for the world series just be perfect? Joe Torre sticking it to little Hank steinbrenner. I'd like that.
You might think I'd be rooting for the freeway series as I'm in so cal, but that's just boring. I'd rather have the whole country watching.
What on earth was Utley doing. Pretty unforgivable.
And courtesy Dr. G's avatar I now know that Shane Victorino is Hawaiian. Right on.
Dr. Greenhorn
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Da flyin Hawaiian!! victorino baby!! lol
take care Jiggy, ya know we are all behind ya bro. Positive vibes reaching out to ya from HI and once again bro, awesome grow!
victorino baby!! loltake care Jiggy, ya know we are all behind ya bro. Positive vibes reaching out to ya from HI
and once again bro, awesome grow!
Fred Flintstoner
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Damn Jig those roots are the shit. I must say, roots are where I FAIL miserably.
About 4 weeks into my grow my girls' roots always go from white to that nasty brown and they only are able to establish about 4 main tap roots and there is not nearly the amount of small bundled roots like you are showing here.
Are you using anything in your hydroponics for your roots to be this white?
About 4 weeks into my grow my girls' roots always go from white to that nasty brown and they only are able to establish about 4 main tap roots and there is not nearly the amount of small bundled roots like you are showing here.
Are you using anything in your hydroponics for your roots to be this white?
tahoe58
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hey Jig ... my thoughts and prayers are with you. Your plants? they don't need my prayers ... they be looking fine and dandy all the way .... and that was gonna be some monstro-pizza! hahahaha! smoked salmon, mushrooms, garlic, spinach, olives, salami .. fuk I'd eat that for breakfast right now!!!! hahahaha! .... Munchin on!!~~~~
robotninja
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Looking awesome dude, your roots are insane. Do you add any kind of root growth stimulator? I would love to get some fatty roots like those. It seems like the Hygrozyme ends up eating away alot of my roots, but at least I don't got gnats.
And I wish I could have seen a pic of the pizza once it was done, drool...
Damn, now I'm hungry hehe
Sorry about your friends loss, I know all too well what it's like to loose people close to me. That god damned war... Sorry, don't mean to be a Debby downer.
Keep living your life to the fullest for those who no longer can.
And I wish I could have seen a pic of the pizza once it was done, drool...
Damn, now I'm hungry hehe
Sorry about your friends loss, I know all too well what it's like to loose people close to me. That god damned war... Sorry, don't mean to be a Debby downer.
Keep living your life to the fullest for those who no longer can.
jigfresh
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I'm in a rush guys, but I need help.
I need to trim some stuff off my plants and don't know where to go now.
I think this is where i 'should' flower, based on efficiency. Even though this isn't the most effiecient use of veg time, from here on out it's going to be way worse.
So things are filled the width of the screens, and now it's going up. I am using a branch per screen wire (i hope that makes sense). So every two inches will be a branch going strait up.
Now I'm not sure if I should clip the length of the longer branches to let newer higher ones in, or just let the longer ones get longer and totally cut new branches. Sorta like reversie lollipopping.
I drew a picture. I really hope you guys get what I'm saying.
I'll be sure to tell you my Secret about the roots when I have more time. I promise.
I need to trim some stuff off my plants and don't know where to go now.
I think this is where i 'should' flower, based on efficiency. Even though this isn't the most effiecient use of veg time, from here on out it's going to be way worse.
So things are filled the width of the screens, and now it's going up. I am using a branch per screen wire (i hope that makes sense). So every two inches will be a branch going strait up.
Now I'm not sure if I should clip the length of the longer branches to let newer higher ones in, or just let the longer ones get longer and totally cut new branches. Sorta like reversie lollipopping.
I drew a picture. I really hope you guys get what I'm saying.
I'll be sure to tell you my Secret about the roots when I have more time. I promise.
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Fred Flintstoner
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Had to re-read but I def think I know what you are saying and it sound scary
When you flower your plants are going to vert more no matter what right, so if you choose to keep the lower branches i bet you will be hacking away at the top for a few weeks....which will also stimulate more growth on the bottom making things even bushier on the bottom...the whole mentality of having a light on top of the canopy is killing my thought process here for you though since you are doing a vert grow.My best advice though would be to cut down the longer branches like you said to stimulate the internode growth for each of those branches possibly giving you more shoots facing the light directly. You can then monitor the top growth and trim as you see fit.
My two schillings I guess..
smoote1987
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huh???
umm all i can say is that where ever you trim it will redirect the growth energy to the nearest possible new shoot as well as to repairing the trimmed spot. I mean your drawings look fine. I warn about cutting anything away that is growing how you want. I like to only trim away the shoots where i don't want them. I try to not trim anything for the last week or two of veg so that the new shoots have time to mature for flowering.
Also as you said you should try to fill the entire screen before flower as you will be stopping any extra veg by using additives and mh.
hope this helps.
ok so i got a better idea of what youre saying. hmmm thats a damn good question.
well going with what i said above id say it is really up to you. The trick is to get the entire screen to fill up while leaving an inch or two of screen open while having a fresh crop of new shoots being established where you had to trim to keep from over growing. The idea is to have the entire screen have the exact same growth potential. Think of youre first grow and what you had to do to maintain a healthy scrog, except now your plants on the side of the screen instead of behind it.
trimming the lower branches while allowing the rest of the plant to hit the top of the screen and simultaneously spread to the edges sounds best to me, and is coincidentally the method I tend to follow.
umm all i can say is that where ever you trim it will redirect the growth energy to the nearest possible new shoot as well as to repairing the trimmed spot. I mean your drawings look fine. I warn about cutting anything away that is growing how you want. I like to only trim away the shoots where i don't want them. I try to not trim anything for the last week or two of veg so that the new shoots have time to mature for flowering.
Also as you said you should try to fill the entire screen before flower as you will be stopping any extra veg by using additives and mh.
hope this helps.
ok so i got a better idea of what youre saying. hmmm thats a damn good question.
well going with what i said above id say it is really up to you. The trick is to get the entire screen to fill up while leaving an inch or two of screen open while having a fresh crop of new shoots being established where you had to trim to keep from over growing. The idea is to have the entire screen have the exact same growth potential. Think of youre first grow and what you had to do to maintain a healthy scrog, except now your plants on the side of the screen instead of behind it.
trimming the lower branches while allowing the rest of the plant to hit the top of the screen and simultaneously spread to the edges sounds best to me, and is coincidentally the method I tend to follow.
Iamtreehigh
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just got done giving this a quick read through, can't wait to see how this turns out in the end.
Hope everything is going well.
Hope everything is going well.
jigfresh
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Thank you guys. I will go with that.
As for the roots, the only thing I have in my tank targeted at the roots is Dutch Master : Zone (LINK)
However... I had this in my tank the first two grows and the roots were nowhere near as nice as this time.
The big difference I've done this time is how I water. My first grows I tried to keep the roots in water all the time. This time they have had a lot more time in the air. At least the top parts of the roots. The water level has been between 30-60% ful. With the level getting down tho 10% full at times. So I've been drying them out a little.
The other thing is that with this less water, the airpump is more powerful in comparison... know what I mean. It's the same pump as before... but now it's only pusing through maybe 4 gallons total instead of 20-24.
So I guess the secret to my roots this time is less water and more air (i guess that's redundant).
About my trimming, my plant will end up looking like a feather more than a menorah... oh well.
As for the roots, the only thing I have in my tank targeted at the roots is Dutch Master : Zone (LINK)
However... I had this in my tank the first two grows and the roots were nowhere near as nice as this time.
The big difference I've done this time is how I water. My first grows I tried to keep the roots in water all the time. This time they have had a lot more time in the air. At least the top parts of the roots. The water level has been between 30-60% ful. With the level getting down tho 10% full at times. So I've been drying them out a little.
The other thing is that with this less water, the airpump is more powerful in comparison... know what I mean. It's the same pump as before... but now it's only pusing through maybe 4 gallons total instead of 20-24.
So I guess the secret to my roots this time is less water and more air (i guess that's redundant).
About my trimming, my plant will end up looking like a feather more than a menorah... oh well.
neversummer28
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Maybe I missed something while reading the page (I mean, I am completely baked), but it sounds like this stuff doesn't work in the same way as h2o2 or Hygrozyme? Sounds like this is an additional supplement?
But dude, your roots are THICK! Hot damn!
P.S. Dodgers backs are against the wall, what will your boys do now? Looking like a Yanks-Phils 2009 World Series. Can either of the LA teams pull a Boston-style comeback?
jigfresh
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I don't think you missed anything. Zone is not h202 nor hygrozyme. All I know is... it's meant to keep your tank clean and roots happy.
And my tank is always clean and my roots seem to be quite happy.
LA baseball sucks. Yeah, I don't sound like a good fan, but I just don't see any worth to the dodgers... and the Yankees with A rod in full tilt look pretty unbeatable.
Looks like it's going to be a completely boring world series. Phili vs NYC. Blah.
Fred Flintstoner
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Thanks a lot for the feedback on the roots bro.
I have put my drip on a timer of 1 hour duration every 3 hours a couple weeks ago instead of continuous, hopefully next grow I will see better results after the 4 week mark. (I have also modified veg room with same time) Might have to pick up some of that zone as well next time im at the shop, looks promising.
laterz
I have put my drip on a timer of 1 hour duration every 3 hours a couple weeks ago instead of continuous, hopefully next grow I will see better results after the 4 week mark. (I have also modified veg room with same time) Might have to pick up some of that zone as well next time im at the shop, looks promising.
laterz
neversummer28
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jigs bro, i don't like what i'm hearing. you can't ever lose faith. the fans help make the team. they always say philly fans are the worst... we throw batteries at players, snowballs at santa... we go from worshiping a team one minute to yelling profanities to the team the next minute. but this is all b/c we love our team and are there for them. we waited 25 years for our most recent championship.
stand by your team, they made it all the way to the nlcs and will be in contention again next year.
okay, i'm done preachin... i'll admit it... i'm a little scared of the yanks right now. hoping the angels keep wearing down their bullpen.