White House Administration escalates war on U.S. News Network

PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1

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I guess when Bush escalated war on CBS, Howard stern and free speach because they spoke out against HIS and his old man's war it's ok?
but when you have the air waves spreading lies and propaganda against "The President Of The United States," he should not take action?
I guess your only happy when your making the rest of us misreable,,,,Cause I'm Happy to be an American Now! and your misreable,,,Go obama clean up the left over shit and Legalize the Bud!,,or at Least TRY!!!!! Instead of esculation the war on everything!
 

CrackerJax

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you must be a bit thick.... or you haven't a clue to what the ratings mean. They mean $$$$$$$$$..... the ratings are accurate....distribution is accounted for.
 

doobnVA

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You saying Next like you really said something ....boy stop.....Cracker I have seen to many people on this site show how wrong you are time and time again...me being one that has done it over and over... do I need to go get the post and show how lost you really are...Again MSNBC is not part of basic cable package.. fox is..and when counting viewers this is not taken into account...but don't get me wrong alot of people do watch fox...but alot people also watch the "Family Guy" and " South Park"..so what does that tell you
Something like 50 million people watch "American Idol", compared to what... 2.5 million Fox News viewers?

Since Fox News has been officially exposed as a republican talking points "entertainment organization", and not a "news network" that makes MSNBC the number 1 cable news network.


GO MSNBC!
 

doobnVA

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Jax must not have been paying attention while Glenn Beck was losing OVER 80 ADVERTISERS due to his "Obama is racist" comments. Some advertisers pulled their ads from airing on ANY Fox News program.

I guess that's why he's doing infomercials and loaning HIS image to the sponsors in order to get them to advertise on his program. Wait, what? Aren't the advertisers supposed to pay to advertise on the program? So why is the show's host taking side gigs as a spokesperson? Not making enough money, perhaps?

LOL
 

doobnVA

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Liar!

I did say Kaczyanski was a genius but I also said he discredited himself through his heinous actions. And you accuse Fox of taking things out of context. You are the King at taking things out of context.

From Wikipedia:

Kaczynski received an undergraduate degree from Harvard University and earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan. He became an assistant professor at the University of California, Berkeley at age 25 but resigned two years later.

Sound pretty smart to me. He was also probably crazy but he was smart never the less.

As far as Fox taking Dunn's praise for Mao Tse Tung, how exactly does one take that out of context? Why don't you set the record straight for us your Royal Trollness.

LOL! I'm a liar? You just admitted that you praised the unabomber, did you not?

The same way Dunn "praised" Mao for his POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY (did she praise his policy decisions? No, she didn't).

FYI: the Chinese people FUCKING LOVE MAO. They adore him. They realize he made some mistakes in policy directives, but he ultimately did a lot of good for their country and they think he's AWESOME!

How is you praising the unabomber ANY different than what Dunn said about Mao? IT ISN'T!

Me, a troll? You're projecting, Rick. What did I lie about again? The FACT that Fox spun the Dunn quote as "praise" of Mao's policies, when she NEVER PRAISED HIS POLICIES? How the fuck is that a lie?

Just because you want to believe she's a "radical communist sympathizer" doesn't make it true.
 

londonfog

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you must be a bit thick.... or you haven't a clue to what the ratings mean. They mean $$$$$$$$$..... the ratings are accurate....distribution is accounted for.
again to show how lost you are we had this talk about ratings once before ..Remember the "More Gin Beck" thread... you know the one when I kept proving how wrong you are and you just stop replying back....well in case you forgot I will paste what I said about ratings on that thread to help you remember

Cracker you sure you don't live in a community that includes the word "park" in it and is your home sometimes called a trailer ???? Ok son school now open..geezzz .......Participants in Nielsen's national sample are randomly selected.To find out who is watching TV and what they are watching, the company gets around 5,000 households to agree to be a part of the "sample" for the national ratings estimates. Nielsen's statistics show that 99 million households have TVs in the United States, so Nielsen's sample is not very large...they just get "some people" to install the sample box...again I ask the question how many people do you know participate in this rating poll...who do you know that does this...Well me not a single person.... so you are told that by a sample of people these are the best shows....and you fall for it...so I guess that would make you the joke...Advertisers love suckers so I guess we can call you "Lollipop" with the Cracker flavor. Hey are you also one of those who still say Christopher Columbus discovery America, because you were told so ????

So "Lollipop" did that flash back help
 

lopezri

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lopezri: Why do you side with people who hate you?

You're gay, right? Don't you realize the republicans HATE gays? It's like a black person joining the KKK, for pete's sake.

Wake up and smell the modus operandi of your political party, already!

How is posting a cartoon picture of a half naked MAN titled "liberal bloggers" in any way offensive to me?

I'm not a man, I'm not LIBERAL, and I'm not a freaking blogger.

Nice try for what intellect you guys are working with, though. My 5 year old son can come up with better zingers than that.
Doob - Republicans don't hate gay people. The democrats have just brainwashed the gay community to make them think that. The religous Christian zealots are the ones who hate homosexuals. Guess what. . . Democrats can be religious Christian zealots too. The majority of the gay community is so busy trying to obtain their next piece, get drunk, or find some e or meth that they don't understand what is really going on with Democrats and the gay community. Democrats keep promising to the gay community, just like they do with the latino and black community that "IF" we vote Democrat then they will help us out and help make things better. How many decades have they been promising that now? They still haven't helped to pass that much for their voting "minority" groups! The Democrats promise this and keep it on the books without doing anything about it to continue to get votes. Most people who march to their unsincopated rhythm are too dumb to figure that out though.

Conservatives, Libertarians, Republicans don't hate me. Democrats hate me because I can see past their lies to NOT vote for them. When will you see past it?

Ever read Neal Boortz "Somebody's Gotta Say It"?
 

CrackerJax

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again to show how lost you are we had this talk about ratings once before ..Remember the "More Gin Beck" thread... you know the one when I kept proving how wrong you are and you just stop replying back....well in case you forgot I will paste what I said about ratings on that thread to help you remember

Cracker you sure you don't live in a community that includes the word "park" in it and is your home sometimes called a trailer ???? Ok son school now open..geezzz .......Participants in Nielsen's national sample are randomly selected.To find out who is watching TV and what they are watching, the company gets around 5,000 households to agree to be a part of the "sample" for the national ratings estimates. Nielsen's statistics show that 99 million households have TVs in the United States, so Nielsen's sample is not very large...they just get "some people" to install the sample box...again I ask the question how many people do you know participate in this rating poll...who do you know that does this...Well me not a single person.... so you are told that by a sample of people these are the best shows....and you fall for it...so I guess that would make you the joke...Advertisers love suckers so I guess we can call you "Lollipop" with the Cracker flavor. Hey are you also one of those who still say Christopher Columbus discovery America, because you were told so ????

So "Lollipop" did that flash back help
You seem to think that the ratings don't take the distribution availability into account. I say U R 100% wrong.

There, I simplified it for even you.... :roll:
 

londonfog

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Doob - Republicans don't hate gay people. The democrats have just brainwashed the gay community to make them think that. The religous Christian zealots are the ones who hate homosexuals. Guess what. . . Democrats can be religious Christian zealots too. The majority of the gay community is so busy trying to obtain their next piece, get drunk, or find some e or meth that they don't understand what is really going on with Democrats and the gay community. Democrats keep promising to the gay community, just like they do with the latino and black community that "IF" we vote Democrat then they will help us out and help make things better. How many decades have they been promising that now? They still haven't helped to pass that much for their voting "minority" groups! The Democrats promise this and keep it on the books without doing anything about it to continue to get votes. Most people who march to their unsincopated rhythm are too dumb to figure that out though.

Conservatives, Libertarians, Republicans don't hate me. Democrats hate me because I can see past their lies to NOT vote for them. When will you see past it?

Ever read Neal Boortz "Somebody's Gotta Say It"?
OMG..are you for real....ok flash back

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or another," Bush told reporters at a White House news conference. "And we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that...

Don't sound to gay friendly to me...

flash back 2004

A panel made up largely of conservative delegates approved platform language that calls for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage and opposes legal recognition of any sort for gay civil unions

dude you really need to do your research, but hey you might need to stay with that party to help them change
 

londonfog

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You seem to think that the ratings don't take the distribution availability into account. I say U R 100% wrong.

There, I simplified it for even you.... :roll:
Lollipop they don't ....they don't take into account that fox runs on basic cable and MSNBC does not...I told you how the rating system works...So stop showing how little you know and go look it up yourself...Hell just google nielson rating system....
 

CrackerJax

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So, back to the thread.....

FOX now dominates the airwaves.....

Obama wants to swipe at their reputation..... it's his mistake to make.....

The ppl must like what they see on Fox compared to other news media..... isn't that the real problem for lib's? It sure is..... :lol:
 

doobnVA

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Doob - Republicans don't hate gay people. The democrats have just brainwashed the gay community to make them think that. The religous Christian zealots are the ones who hate homosexuals. Guess what. . . Democrats can be religious Christian zealots too. The majority of the gay community is so busy trying to obtain their next piece, get drunk, or find some e or meth that they don't understand what is really going on with Democrats and the gay community. Democrats keep promising to the gay community, just like they do with the latino and black community that "IF" we vote Democrat then they will help us out and help make things better. How many decades have they been promising that now? They still haven't helped to pass that much for their voting "minority" groups! The Democrats promise this and keep it on the books without doing anything about it to continue to get votes. Most people who march to their unsincopated rhythm are too dumb to figure that out though.

Conservatives, Libertarians, Republicans don't hate me. Democrats hate me because I can see past their lies to NOT vote for them. When will you see past it?

Ever read Neal Boortz "Somebody's Gotta Say It"?

Yes, Republicans DO hate gay people. Unequivocally.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1996-300

Look at the statistics for those in congress who voted for the "Defense of Marriage Act".

Most democrats opposed it, while republicans overwhelmingly supported it.

now take a look at the ACLU scorecard, which rates members of Congress based on how they vote regarding issues that are important civil rights issues. Republicans FAIL at civil rights advocacy, hands down.

http://action.aclu.org/site/VoteCenter?page=voteList

the Human Rights Campaign has a similar scorecard. Check it out here:

http://www.hrc.org/about_us/7194.htm
 

lopezri

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OMG..are you for real....ok flash back

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or another," Bush told reporters at a White House news conference. "And we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that...

Don't sound to gay friendly to me...

flash back 2004

A panel made up largely of conservative delegates approved platform language that calls for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage and opposes legal recognition of any sort for gay civil unions

dude you really need to do your research, but hey you might need to stay with that party to help them change
FIRST off, you idiot - I have never said I was Republican. I have always declared Libertarian and prior to that I was Democrat but then after 9/11 I realized that the Democrats were only out to destroy this country from within. The party has absolutely been infiltrated by communists, socialists, facists, and anti-capitalists. I can have whatever beliefs I want. Just because they aren't inline with yours doesn't mean I'm not familiar with what is going on. Are you gay? Have you WALKED in a gay persons shoes? If not, then you don't have any way to even judge where I'm coming from. If you are gay, then maybe you need to start doing more research about how your beloved Democrats vote!

The Democrats - being led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (Piss Poor leaders BTW) and using Obama as their puppet - are absolutely out to try to make a clear distinction between the classes, making themselves Elitist and a large majority of the U.S. population their working slaves.

There is NEVER an even redistribution of wealth! Those who control the books make sure they are taking care of themselves and their kind, meanwhile letting everyone else drudge in the ditches to try with no avail to where the elitists are. Why do you think the Democrats immediately rejected the idea of having the same healthcare plan as what is being offered to anyone who can't afford healthcare?
 

ObamaSanta

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The fact that Fox is on basic cable in all cable outlets help ( MSNBC is not)...but you to blind to realize that.... and we all know America loves a good train wreck...Hell I love to see when Gin Beck starts to cry...I'm like damn this guy is entertaining.... Cracker turn off the T.V and P.C. just for a day... Take a shower so you can get the cheeto's stains and smell off your body...Go make some friends that don't require you to type to communicate....
You saying Next like you really said something ....boy stop.....Cracker I have seen to many people on this site show how wrong you are time and time again...me being one that has done it over and over... do I need to go get the post and show how lost you really are...Again MSNBC is not part of basic cable package.. fox is..and when counting viewers this is not taken into account...but don't get me wrong alot of people do watch fox...but alot people also watch the "Family Guy" and " South Park"..so what does that tell you
Lollipop they don't ....they don't take into account that fox runs on basic cable and MSNBC does not...I told you how the rating system works...So stop showing how little you know and go look it up yourself...Hell just google nielson rating system....

Ok, that's three times you made the same incorrect statement. Fox does indeed run on basic cable, dish, direct tv and the like. However, Fox News, the home of Glenn Beck, Hannity, Oreilly and others does not. Let me type that again to be clear. They DO NOT run on basic packages. In fact, as an example, I have a $99 dollar package from Dish Network with all the HD, some premium channels and my locals and guess what... I still don't get Fox News unless I pay an additional charge. I'm near Raleigh, NC so you can check it if you like, but your ASSERTION IS JUST PLAIN WRONG.
 

doobnVA

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FIRST off, you idiot - I have never said I was Republican. I have always declared Libertarian and prior to that I was Democrat but then after 9/11 I realized that the Democrats were only out to destroy this country from within. The party has absolutely been infiltrated by communists, socialists, facists, and anti-capitalists. I can have whatever beliefs I want. Just because they aren't inline with yours doesn't mean I'm not familiar with what is going on. Are you gay? Have you WALKED in a gay persons shoes? If not, then you don't have any way to even judge where I'm coming from. If you are gay, then maybe you need to start doing more research about how your beloved Democrats vote!

The Democrats - being led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (Piss Poor leaders BTW) and using Obama as their puppet - are absolutely out to try to make a clear distinction between the classes, making themselves Elitist and a large majority of the U.S. population their working slaves.

There is NEVER an even redistribution of wealth! Those who control the books make sure they are taking care of themselves and their kind, meanwhile letting everyone else drudge in the ditches to try with no avail to where the elitists are. Why do you think the Democrats immediately rejected the idea of having the same healthcare plan as what is being offered to anyone who can't afford healthcare?

What kind of libertarian are you, specifically? Libertarians are supposed to be advocates for civil liberties, so why are you attacking the ONLY party that clearly demonstrates an unwavering dedication to that very cause?
 

CrackerJax

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Lollipop they don't ....they don't take into account that fox runs on basic cable and MSNBC does not...I told you how the rating system works...So stop showing how little you know and go look it up yourself...Hell just google nielson rating system....

Nielsen creates a "sample audience" and then counts how many in that audience view each program. Nielsen then extrapolates from the sample and estimates the number of viewers in the entire population watching the show.

Pay attention and learn something.... If Nielsen wants to "meter" MSNBC...they set up a representative sample for that show and then meters it.

So it is possible to measure Fox directly against MsNbc. In your convoluted world, you think it's impossible to measure accurately. It's not... like I said....when big money is riding on it.... a methodology is found.... always.

It's how FOX can charge more per minute of commercial time.... the ratings system is intergal to the stations bottom line...... it's not a gray area.
 

lopezri

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Yes, Republicans DO hate gay people. Unequivocally.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1996-300

Look at the statistics for those in congress who voted for the "Defense of Marriage Act".

Most democrats opposed it, while republicans overwhelmingly supported it.

now take a look at the ACLU scorecard, which rates members of Congress based on how they vote regarding issues that are important civil rights issues. Republicans FAIL at civil rights advocacy, hands down.

http://action.aclu.org/site/VoteCenter?page=voteList
Obama and Hillary Clinton both said they are not in favor of gay marriage.

As far as civil rights goes - the first president to fight for civil rights was Lincoln - Republican. Kennedy - D, got civil rights legislation passed but only because he had the support from Repubs. 96 House Dems voted against it and only 34 House Reps voted againt it, in senate version 21 Dems voted to not pass and only 6 Reps voted no. Nixon - R, did get another version of the legislation past. BTW I'm not defending Nixon or Republicans, I'm just stating facts here.
 

lopezri

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One more thing for you DoobnVA -

It wasn’t until 1964 that African-American support for the GOP fell off the cliff. Barry Goldwater’s vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which, ironically, was supported by larger proportions of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress) drove black voter supporter for the GOP standard-bearer down below ten percent. In the years since, it has rarely climbed much above that mark and has never come close to the level RN received in 1960.
Goldwater, of course, carried much of the Deep South in 1964 (Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina), all five of which the Democrats had carried in 1960. But, with the exception of his home state of Arizona, that’s all he won. New York Senator Jacob Javits, writing in early 1966 about the electoral debacle of 1964, blamed it squarely on “the Goldwater-Miller ill-fated ‘Southern Strategy.’”


NOW STOP HIJACKING THIS THREAD! THE THREAD ISN'T ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS OR GAY MARRIAGE - ITS ABOUT THE W.H. ADMIN. (Partiularly you're beloved messiah OBAMA) DECLARING WAR ON A LEGITIMATE NEWS NETWORK!!

 

lopezri

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What kind of libertarian are you, specifically? Libertarians are supposed to be advocates for civil liberties, so why are you attacking the ONLY party that clearly demonstrates an unwavering dedication to that very cause?
LIBERTARIANS are against BIG GOVERNMENT which the Democrats are absolute for! And big government and civil liberties don't exactly go hand in hand. I will always choose personal liberty and freedom over big government!
 

londonfog

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Ok, that's three times you made the same incorrect statement. Fox does indeed run on basic cable, dish, direct tv and the like. However, Fox News, the home of Glenn Beck, Hannity, Oreilly and others does not. Let me type that again to be clear. They DO NOT run on basic packages. In fact, as an example, I have a $99 dollar package from Dish Network with all the HD, some premium channels and my locals and guess what... I still don't get Fox News unless I pay an additional charge. I'm near Raleigh, NC so you can check it if you like, but your ASSERTION IS JUST PLAIN WRONG.
WTF...did i say satellite..PAY ATTENTION..Now in your area you guys have Time Warner which does included MSNBC and Fox as its basic (standard) line-up..Now if it was Comcast it would not..you would have to pay extra for MSNBC...now since you want to talk about Dish let me clear that up here is a link to the listing to dish news line up for the bronze package (basic standard ) http://www.dishnetwork.com/packages/detail.aspx?pack=AT100 do you see MSNBC nope ..DO you see Fox...yes...Do your homework before trying to correct me...I show you with proof...Now you do the same
 
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