Thinking about going bubbleponics? This should convince you...

[purpdaddy]

Roseman recalls me posting pictures of scraggly little plants as does LT, you don't recall me ever posting a picture. As for the pants, hell yeah. She who must be obeyed.

ps I'm tempted to go take a pic right now of my 6 week old today plants. They're even in an old SH tote (the only part of that I kept). Ohhh but I'm skeeered, she'd hurt me bad!!

If those are yours..IS..they look good..why do you spend your time in a VS. match with the damn feedertubes?If people wanna use em...its ok..if people dont wanna use em its ok too just more work without em.Simple as that.
Just grow and have a good time on here there are great people that are willing to do anything to help people grow their medicine or whatever the fuck they wanna do with it on here.So just grow and be cool man

 

[Illegal Smile]

If those are yours..IS..they look good..why do you spend your time in a VS. match with the damn feedertubes?If people wanna use em...its ok..if people dont wanna use em its ok too just more work without em.Simple as that.
Just grow and have a good time on here there are great people that are willing to do anything to help people grow their medicine or whatever the fuck they wanna do with it on here.So just grow and be cool man

Well, I have repeatedly said I think everyone should try it both ways. By the way mine are 21 days from seed not from sprout, but no matter. I wouldn't expect them to be as big as roseman's what with him being god and all. Really, I'm sure he knows more about plants than I do and I'm sure I do things that don't lead to max growth. But I don't believe it is a function of early feeding and still maintain that if the medium is where you want it on a wet/dry scale, it doesn't matter how it got there.

And I keep hearing from people who are doing what I'm doing who say they have been doing it that way for years. You didn't think I invented it myself do you? I was schooled on how to get rid of the tubes by some of (I believe) the most accomplished dwc growers on riu. But they don't want to participate in a debate.

I appreciate your comments. Especially because it has to be hard being civil to me after how uncivil I admittedly have been to you. + rep.

 

[Roseman]

JonnyBetreed's BP Grow

What MORE does anyone want from a 8 gallon tank???

That is what we dream about and want and desire so bad!!!!

 

[Roseman]

My closet!

 

[tmsculli]

I apologize that my pictures disappeared folks. I am unable to edit the first post, so i will repost the pictures here in the same format. My apologies.


So I posted in my grow journal a quick comparison of day by day photos of my mother growing rom seed with no bubbleponics set up (no feed lines) and then 3 from seed using the feeder tubes.

Now, this is not to force it down your throat by any means, but hopefully if anyone out there has been thinking about converting, maybe this will help them choose a side of sorts.

The pump is 20$ and the hub is about 5$. $30 max could get you the boosted growth that you are about to see.

Here they are..



With NO WATER LINES it took 4 days to get a sprout above ground from germ

With bubbleponics, this was Day 4

Day 10, no bubbleponics:

Day 10 w/ bubbleponics

Day 16 no bubbleponics:

Day 16 with bubbleponics

I mean, it's a crazy difference for not too much additional investment. I was not a believer either until I did it. it shocked the hell out of me to be honest man.



**Sorry again for the pictures going away guys, but now they are back!**
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[sophanox]

so there was only one seed that was not put under dwc? could be a dodgy seed or genetics in that case

good pictures mate and good evidence too, but i have to say the dwc seedling at 10 days seems abnormally small. it'd be bigger than that in soil!

 

[Roseman]

Great Comparison pics here.

 

[sophanox]

I definitely think that the one seedling in dwc is a runt. Whilst there may will be a difference in growth rates between dwc and bubbleponics...the dwc seedling is too small for its age in each of the pics.

 

[MrBlanco]

You know, it's really hard for others to learn anything when supposedly knowledgeable people are acting like children and destroying what would be an otherwise informative topic. Those of us who don't give a shit about your personal wars have to wade through this. I would also hope that the "leader" of this group would be a little more mature and confident. It might make the rest follow that example instead of the one currently being set.

Has anyone tried growing identical clones in the same room using dwc and bubbleponics side by side? Then and only then will pictures prove anything. Otherwise, the numerous variables make the pictures moot.

 

[Illegal Smile]

You know, it's really hard for others to learn anything when supposedly knowledgeable people are acting like children and destroying what would be an otherwise informative topic. Those of us who don't give a shit about your personal wars have to wade through this. I would also hope that the "leader" of this group would be a little more mature and confident. It might make the rest follow that example instead of the one currently being set.

Has anyone tried growing identical clones in the same room using dwc and bubbleponics side by side? Then and only then will pictures prove anything. Otherwise, the numerous variables make the pictures moot.

There would still be dozens of variables with more impact than the non-difference between DWC and whichever of 5 or 6 systems you care to call bubbleponics. Not the least of which would be intentional bias in the design and conduct of the experiment. The real analytic question is: if the rockwool in two systems is being kept identically wet (through whatever means), to what could any measured difference between them be attributed?

 

[purpdaddy]

There would still be dozens of variables with more impact than the non-difference between DWC and whichever of 5 or 6 systems you care to call bubbleponics. Not the least of which would be intentional bias in the design and conduct of the experiment. The real analytic question is: if the rockwool in two systems is being kept identically wet (through whatever means), to what could any measured difference between them be attributed?

Theres more O2 in the water being delivered to the roots.

 

[MostlyCrazy]

A stronger start usually means a stonger finish.

 

[squarepush3r]

There would still be dozens of variables with more impact than the non-difference between DWC and whichever of 5 or 6 systems you care to call bubbleponics. Not the least of which would be intentional bias in the design and conduct of the experiment. The real analytic question is: if the rockwool in two systems is being kept identically wet (through whatever means), to what could any measured difference between them be attributed?

+1 well spoken

 

[Illegal Smile]

Theres more O2 in the water being delivered to the roots.

There is no possible explanation for why that would be true. I'll guess you mean the pockets of air that travel up the feeder tubes that spit water against the sides of the cube. But as soon as those air pockets (bubbles if you wish) leave the tube they immediately dissipate into the...uh... air which already surrounds the cube. Air to roots is never an issue or problem when they are literally hanging in air.

 

[purpdaddy]

+1 well spoken

How was that well said??

 

[purpdaddy]

There is no possible explanation for why that would be true. I'll guess you mean the pockets of air that travel up the feeder tubes that spit water against the sides of the cube. But as soon as those air pockets (bubbles if you wish) leave the tube they immediately dissipate into the...uh... air which already surrounds the cube. Air to roots is never an issue or problem when they are literally hanging in air.

mine sit in water with bubbles..you grow in the air?

 

[purpdaddy]

The explanation is in the pics in the beginning of this thread

 

[MostlyCrazy]

Feeder tubes are removed as soon as the plant has established itself well into the res water. It's about the start and not the finish. By establishing a stronger, thicker plant you increase it's ability to process nutes the entire grow.

 

[purpdaddy]

Feeder tubes are removed as soon as the plant has established itself well into the res water. It's about the start and not the finish. By establishing a stronger, thicker plant you increase it's ability to process nutes the entire grow.

Thats exactly the point..man its basically an auto feeder.dont have to do it by hand..you can leave it just change the res water.

 

[purpdaddy]

Im growing 1 plant in a 5 gal bucket with 2 feedertubes!.OH SHIT!