NEW NFT (nutrient film technique) SOG SETUP

[streetlegal]

If someone can point me to a spell check on this forum I would quite happy to use it. Then again about half the replies in this forum have mis-spelling to include streetldeals's replies. I think he probably considers it slang. Just bad english or mispelling, or trying to be cute. Are you trying to be cute or are you just being childish, immature and insultive ? This is not a text serviv ce. Real words can actually be used here dirt bag not childish text meassageing. What are you a high schooler?

Is this directed towards me? cos i couldnt work it out?..
ccksukr..work that one out

 

[repvip]

Just smoke a bowl and blame it on the wireless keyboard!

Don't scare off fatman yet, I want to learn from this ol' timer

For example, the red ez-clone sprayers I added to one of my units, a total of 20 with about 24' of 1/2" PVC, is now a debacle. They don't work very good upside down? The 633gph barely trickels, and a 1056gph pump almost sprays but not quite.

I thought at least 25gph per sprayer? I'm way above that.

I want better misters/sprayers that have finer droplet size, which will work off low pressure water pumps, specifically the ecoplus line in the 600-1200gph range.

EDIT:
By the way, when I was using stinkbuds aero/nft units before, I would check on the rez every 2-3 days and just fill it up. The pH was always dead on, but I didn't aerate back then. The sprayers did all that work. After awhile I quit checking pH altogether.
Now, with NFT, I have been checking rezzies everyday. Aeration causes pH changes... if you have never aerated your water and then you do, the pH will prob drop bigtime as the plants take up tons of nutes, and aeration simply changes O2/CO2 ratios, dissolved CO2 affects pH. Anyway, long story short--I check my pH now every few days. Everyday I top off the rezzies to try and minimize variances. The continuous NFTs are sucking up more water than the intermittent, which seems odd. It might be turning into humidity with the waterfall effect? Or else they loves it.

 

[fatman7574]

Is this directed towards me? cos i couldnt work it out?..
ccksukr..work that one out

I take it back your just silly slutted over punked Junior high schooler. If you can't work something out it is only because you like taking it so deep. Your now on my ignore list you sloppy. over punked Girlie Boy, bitcha.

 

[fatman7574]

Just smoke a bowl and blame it on the wireless keyboard!

Don't scare off fatman yet, I want to learn from this ol' timer

For example, the red ez-clone sprayers I added to one of my units, a total of 20 with about 24' of 1/2" PVC, is now a debacle. They don't work very good upside down? The 633gph barely trickels, and a 1056gph pump almost sprays but not quite.

I thought at least 25gph per sprayer? I'm way above that.

I want better misters/sprayers that have finer droplet size, which will work off low pressure water pumps, specifically the ecoplus line in the 600-1200gph range.

EDIT:
By the way, when I was using stinkbuds aero/nft units before, I would check on the rez every 2-3 days and just fill it up. The pH was always dead on, but I didn't aerate back then. The sprayers did all that work. After awhile I quit checking pH altogether.
Now, with NFT, I have been checking rezzies everyday. Aeration causes pH changes... if you have never aerated your water and then you do, the pH will prob drop bigtime as the plants take up tons of nutes, and aeration simply changes O2/CO2 ratios, dissolved CO2 affects pH. Anyway, long story short--I check my pH now every few days. Everyday I top off the rezzies to try and minimize variances. The continuous NFTs are sucking up more water than the intermittent, which seems odd. It might be turning into humidity with the waterfall effect? Or else they loves it.[/QUOTI

have no problem with you, but that girlie boy streetlegal needs some disciplining as he seems to be enjoying being punked tomuch. Maybe his mom and Dad don't know their preteen is posting to adult sites.

 

[streetlegal]

I take it back your just silly slutted over punked Junior high schooler. If you can't work something out it is only because you like taking it so deep. Your now on my ignore list you sloppy. over punked Girlie Boy, bitcha.

a slutted punk bitcha.. hmm
That ignore list would be getting pretty long hey fartman? Considering the amount of beef u get from trying to be everybodys answer to the question noone asked. one of the last posts i read from fartman he was telling someone they they were soo dumb that they fuck dogs.

RV i dont think u could learn anymore from fartman then u could learn from a hot-air balloon

 

[repvip]

a slutted punk bitcha.. hmm
That ignore list would be getting pretty long hey fartman? Considering the amount of beef u get from trying to be everybodys answer to the question noone asked. one of the last posts i read from fartman he was telling someone they they were soo dumb that they fuck dogs.

RV i dont think u could learn anymore from fartman then u could learn from a hot-air balloon

Honestly, I can't believe he hates Earl. Who could do that? Too much negativity for me.

 

[streetlegal]

Honestly, I can't believe he hates Earl. Who could do that? Too much negativity for me.

Hes a troll, he beefs everybody.. moving on

So RV, ur yield is about the same with both ak and cheese yeh? i think the cheese is more scrog suited but ive never grown it... Got any strains in mind?

 

[fatman7574]

Hey I just gota be honest. There are 4 people on my ignore list. Much smaller than my friend list. Yes I dislike punks. I sure get a lot of rep points and PM's so I must be helping some. The only Earl I dislike is the CC Earl. He is a dumb ass bitcha. The Earl child above I just replied to in kind. Well, maybe a bit harshly. I had no idea the little boys name was Earl until he said so.

 

[repvip]

So RV, ur yield is about the same with both ak and cheese yeh? i think the cheese is more scrog suited but ive never grown it... Got any strains in mind?

Those yields were with blue cheese. I have done a few AK's mixed in, to get an idea if I would like it. It actually finishes in 7 weeks as advertised.. with little branching--it will fit nice in my setup. The few plants that I have done were all ~1/4oz dried, so I'm looking forward to doing an entire run with it soon. Still building up clones for that!

The blue cheese smells exactly like the breakfast cereal Trix! It is so nice, an absolute favorite, now, in these ol parts. I had two nice phenotypes from seed, one mostly sativa, the other a perfect pix indica/sativa. The sativa took 12+ weeks to finish... eff that. The percfect mix takes just over 8 weeks. The only downside is that it branches, a lot. It stays very short and uniform. A pleasure to manicure.

I don't have any other strains in mind... if and when I get something else, will hopefully be from a dispensary. Judging by what people recommend, I would grow some sort of kush, goo, northern lights. I don't like purple bud. I would never grow it.

 

[repvip]

streetlegal have you started a setup yet?

What sort of strains do you have in mind?

I spent a few hours messing around with sprayers, sprinklers, misters and foggers today. They all suck. With low pressure water pumps. I actually think 1/16" holes drilled every 6" in 1/2" PVC will work the best. In test run, the jet stream collides with the wall or ceiling of the fence posts, depending on how you aim of course, and creates a nice explosion of water and mist, like niagara falls on it's side. The holes are small enough to still produce a considerable stream, while not letting out gallons of water. I doubt they will ever plug.

Here's to simplicity!

 

[sherriberry]

fatman, sorry to keep budding you... but i need to order these parts to get the bloom station built asap!

i get the barbed sprayers...

and from there im lost.

which T's do i need, or do i need any T's at all?

which line do i need, the 3/8 or the 1/4?

and which stems do i order (which size and part number) from the johny site.

and if im missing anything else.

the solenoids and the pvc pipe, and putting it all together i can figure out. Thanks!

 

[fatman7574]

Maybe I can't teach a slut child anything when he already thinks he knows everything, but I have taught you dude. Thanks for the Rep points and compliment. You play all sides I guess. "You got a fine mind on ya! -repvip" Posted 12-14-09

 

[fatman7574]

fatman, sorry to keep budding you... but i need to order these parts to get the bloom station built asap!

i get the barbed sprayers...

and from there im lost.

which T's do i need, or do i need any T's at all?

which line do i need, the 3/8 or the 1/4?

and which stems do i order (which size and part number) from the johny site.

and if im missing anything else.

the solenoids and the pvc pipe, and putting it all together i can figure out. Thanks!

The Tee's are not really necessary but it makes things neater and simplier. Without the Tee's you would have to use a seperate connection for every mister attached to your feed pipe. I would just use the adapter in 1/4" http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-2988-stem-adapter-polypro-14-x-14-nptf.aspx the Tee's in 1/4". http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-2978-union-tee-polypro-14.aspx and If you do not use that method then use the 1/4" Male connector. http://www.freshwatersystems.com/p-2971-male-connector-nptf-polypro-14-x-14-nptf.aspx One for each nozzle.

I use 1" feeder pipes just bacause it is easier to drill and tap as it is a flatter surface being a larger curve. Scedule 80 pie in 3/4" works extremely well but amny places do not have it in long lengths. It is a lot thicker so it allows for more threads.

I use the barbed misters not the threaded. They are very easy to insert if you heat end inch of the small tubing for 10 or 15 seconds in a cup of hot water. It hardens up again as soon as it cools and selas tightly.

 

[repvip]

Maybe I can't teach a slut child anything when he already thinks he knows everything, but I have taught you dude. Thanks for the Rep points and compliment. You play all sides I guess. "You got a fine mind on ya! -repvip" Posted 12-14-09

my god bro.. when was I negative to you?

You need to chill out.

 

[fatman7574]

My bad, it was just streetlegal that posted his usual boat load of crap. I wrongly accredited it to you. My apologies. Sorry.

 

[erakattack]

just wanted to see if this would work
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[repvip]

Welp some of your ideas are completely opposite from mine, which I like--makes me think from a different angle. I try to be nice to everyone, but it's hard.

I definitely like the venturi valve. I had no idea what that was for, to be honest. I'm confused how you get it before the pump intake, do you mean remove the filter+case and get it connected before the chopper (or whatever, the blade) in the pump?

Most of the adapters look like they hook up to the outlet of the pump--doesn't that work?

 

[fatman7574]

Welp some of your ideas are completely opposite from mine, which I like--makes me think from a different angle. I try to be nice to everyone, but it's hard.

I definitely like the venturi valve. I had no idea what that was for, to be honest. I'm confused how you get it before the pump intake, do you mean remove the filter+case and get it connected before the chopper (or whatever, the blade) in the pump?

Most of the adapters look like they hook up to the outlet of the pump--doesn't that work?

If you place it on the exhaust size the bubbles would be larger. Usually on about ever pump under the screened entry cover is jsut a 1/2' or 3/4 inch hole entering the pump. It would just be plugged into that hole. The water coming out will look almost milky as it will be so full of small bubbles. A lot of the bubbles can be so small that they do not even readily rise immediately to the surface but instead stick to what ever surface they touch untill all the O2 is dissolved in the water whereby most of the other gases then rise to the surface.

 

[panta]

I just saw this thread,this is the same thing i made initialy to be a dwc table for sog but after a slime atack on my grow i found it very difficult to maintain,this is a plywood 4x7 feet table 2x600w hps,so now want to make it a mediumless ebb and flow with the pump running 24/7 or to tilt and do a NFT,any advice what would be a better system /less maintanance bigger yeild potencial/ ,if u have a good source of info on nft please post a link

 

[fatman7574]

I have many years education in the sciences and I am always invloved in somw water relar ted reserch so I try to stay infomed. Most of evert yhing I write is based upon science and therest upon 35 years of indoor growing experience using methodologies that usually is based upon recomendtaions coming from recomendations based upon resaarch work by others or myself. I use a lot of instrumentation and do a lot of record keeping.