AHHHHahahaha!!!

jeff f

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Let's just all calm down and admit that weather isn't a science, no matter how many graphs are posted and how many hockey sticks are "invented".

We need to take a step back and reexamine all the data and decide which is political and which is verifiable.

Then proceed in a normal fashion, without all the hysteria.
great idea. only problem is the politicians wont go for it because it delays how long they have to wait before stealing your money and creating a world govt.
 

jeff f

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Why is he showing records set from 10 years ago? That isn't what is happening now.

Now we set records for cold.

because he is still in denial. his pride is too big and he cannot yet admit that he was duped. its common with all hoaxes. but as the years continue to prove him wrong he will eventually either admit it or put on a tinfoil hat. sad but true...
 

Woomeister

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because he is still in denial. his pride is too big and he cannot yet admit that he was duped. its common with all hoaxes. but as the years continue to prove him wrong he will eventually either admit it or put on a tinfoil hat. sad but true...
I know that you think you are right as do I, but the facts are facts, how you wish to interpret them are your look out. Just remember there are many more countries in the world suffering the effects of heat not cold. Go ask an Australian or a Spaniard etc etc. Ask the Maldivians ask the Bangladeshi's etc etc. Agreing to disagree is the adult way, derrogatory comments are somewhat childish Jeff.
 

jeff f

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'He' is showing RECORDS. You do understand that so many records all happening only a decade ago is somewhat relative to now...:wall:
records? okay i will bite. tell me how your "scientific records" have accurate data for 1860 temps? we had barely even expanded into western US. but you expect us to believe that you KNOW what the temps were around the world? most south american countries didnt even have shoes in 1900 but hey, you know how hot it was there? come on get real dude.

next, tell me how accurate the thermometers were in 1860. according to most data, current merc thermometers have an accuracy of about point 1 degree plus or minus through a 0-100 reading.

you expect us to believe that a point 2 or 3 degree change over 160 years is to be believed? riiiiiiight.

lastly, tell us where we can access the original data for past years of temperatures? oh i forgot, YOUR FUCKING SCIENTIST THREW IT AWAY. no shit, they actually destroyed all the data that existed before 1980. but yes, the earth is going to be a half degree hotter in 50 years and you want me to PAY MORE FOR ENERGY to fix it.

ps the station i get my weather data from said tomorrows high will be 36 to 39. so in 24 hours the most accurate they can be is 3 degrees? and your data is accurate over 160 years and is accurate 50 years into the future? really? you must be smart. what an f'n joke

this hole thing is one big hoax pulled on the masses for money. disgraceful.
 

Woomeister

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So you also speak of 'they' faded! Politics.
Getting accurate information about past climates is a basic thing done using Tree rings and ice core extraction. I addressed the snowfall in a past post I beleve.
dendroclimatology...
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Well the tree rings have fallen into disripute since a reexamination of the methodology revealed that only certain rings were compiled, and the sample data was not sufficient to draw anything conclusive.

Further tree ring samplings revealed no serious warming at all.

Like I said, we need to reset and recalibrate everything to an agreed upon methodology in an OPEN scientific forum. So far, it has been anything but that ... it's all been driven by politics, and we all know where that ends up. In a very expensive garbage can 30 years later.
 

Woomeister

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Because it snowed for a long time.

Simple answer.

TODAY huge parts of Australia having the worst drought ever?

why?

Climate change is why...
 

jeff f

New Member
So you also speak of 'they' faded! Politics.
Getting accurate information about past climates is a basic thing done using Tree rings and ice core extraction. I addressed the snowfall in a past post I beleve.
dendroclimatology...

tree rings and ice cores....OMG.

okay, i will play again.

please tell the bumbling stupid masses what instruments you used to "calibrate" your accuracy level of a tree ring. i cant wait to hear this...

you guys just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper.

wait, i just got a brilliant idea. we should ask the lock ness monster. he is supposed to be really old plus he always asks chef's parents for tree-fitty but the mom only gave him a dolla...:-P
 

Woomeister

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Well the tree rings have fallen into disripute since a reexamination of the methodology revealed that only certain rings were compiled, and the sample data was not sufficient to draw anything conclusive.

Further tree ring samplings revealed no serious warming at all.

Like I said, we need to reset and recalibrate everything to an agreed upon methodology in an OPEN scientific forum. So far, it has been anything but that ... it's all been driven by politics, and we all know where that ends up. In a very expensive garbage can 30 years later.
You post too much for me to find it but will persevere if you rebut my next comment. Cj you stated that global warming causes the cold weather, and you have agreed quite openly that global warming is happening, have you not?
 

Woomeister

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tree rings and ice cores....OMG.

okay, i will play again.

please tell the bumbling stupid masses what instruments you used to "calibrate" your accuracy level of a tree ring. i cant wait to hear this...

you guys just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper.

wait, i just got a brilliant idea. we should ask the lock ness monster. he is supposed to be really old plus he always asks chef's parents for tree-fitty but the mom only gave him a dolla...:-P
you agree that there was a past ice age?
 

Woomeister

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Global warming causes the cold ... don't be fooled by ur own eyes!!!
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CrackerJax

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You post too much for me to find it but will persevere if you rebut my next comment. Cj you stated that global warming causes the cold weather, and you have agreed quite openly that global warming is happening, have you not?
I meant that as a joke! :lol: The Earth is cyclical and our impact is minimal. At this juncture we may be pushing/pulling in the wrong direction. We don't know near enough about the Earth's weather cycles to go around trying to manipulate levers of change. It's irresponsible.

you agree that there was a past ice age?
Can't you just tell he's thoroughly informed?? :lol:
 
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